Re: Questions about the Classpath license exception

2005-05-17 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On May 14, 2005, at 7:39 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Leo We can use the con call next week as the forum. Yes please - we have an ongoing conversation with the FSF on licensing issues, and we can just add this to the list. Folks, Just to summarize *Ideally* what we would like, here's a list: - We

Re: Questions about the Classpath license exception

2005-05-17 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On May 14, 2005, at 9:35 PM, Sven de Marothy wrote: - Harmonization of developer-demands. Classpath requires clean-room status (i.e. hasn't seen Sun's code) and FSF assignment (with rights granted back). Harmony will require some form of clean-roomness and an Apache licensing agreement. Seems

Re: Questions about the Classpath license exception

2005-05-16 Thread FaeLLe
On 5/15/05, Mark Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >To be clear, so as no-one feels they've been misled in the future, this > is > >not what we'd like in the best of all possible worlds. In that world, > >classpath would be relicensed under the AL, or a compatible licence. > > > >What's liste

Re: Questions about the Classpath license exception

2005-05-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a bit knee jerk. Far more value could be found from working together. We have more in common than not. If we learn to compromise and work together, the gains will be tremendous. Seperately we're all a bunch of qubbling groups who produce pieces of Java that ar

Re: Questions about the Classpath license exception

2005-05-15 Thread Sven de Marothy
On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 12:59 -0400, Mark Brooks wrote: > Respectfully, perhaps the mistake is not going ahead and developing a class > library specifically for this project. > > I realize that is a lot of work, but perhaps it would be better to do that > work than to use code from another project

Re: Questions about the Classpath license exception

2005-05-15 Thread acoliver
That's a bit knee jerk. Far more value could be found from working together. We have more in common than not. If we learn to compromise and work together, the gains will be tremendous. Seperately we're all a bunch of qubbling groups who produce pieces of Java that are interesting and maybe

Re: Questions about the Classpath license exception

2005-05-15 Thread Mark Brooks
To be clear, so as no-one feels they've been misled in the future, this is not what we'd like in the best of all possible worlds. In that world, classpath would be relicensed under the AL, or a compatible licence. What's listed above is a position we can live with. Cheers, Ben. Respectfully, per

Re: Questions about the Classpath license exception

2005-05-15 Thread Leo Simons
> On 5/14/05, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> (Harmony people: replies only on the classpath mailing list please, this has >> in reality only little to do with harmony.) I really hate crossposts. Oh well. On 15-05-2005 01:39, "Davanum Srinivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We can use the

Re: Questions about the Classpath license exception

2005-05-15 Thread Ben Laurie
Davanum Srinivas wrote: Leo We can use the con call next week as the forum. Folks, Just to summarize *Ideally* what we would like, here's a list: - We don't want to modify any classpath code. If we need changes, we can work with classpath folks. - We don't want to add classpath sources to our tre

Re: Questions about the Classpath license exception

2005-05-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Sven, yep...am hoping Harmony folks would help with classpath too under classpath terms and conditions of course. -- dims On 5/14/05, Sven de Marothy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Given andy's post here, I should re-phrase my own wording: > > On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 03:35 +0200, Sven de Marothy wr

Re: Questions about the Classpath license exception

2005-05-14 Thread Sven de Marothy
Given andy's post here, I should re-phrase my own wording: On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 03:35 +0200, Sven de Marothy wrote: > Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > - We don't want to modify any classpath code. If we need changes, we > > can work with classpath folks. > > - We don't want to add classpath sources to

Re: Questions about the Classpath license exception

2005-05-14 Thread Sven de Marothy
Hi, As a Classpath hacker (but by no means an important one) here are my comments: Davanum Srinivas wrote: > - We don't want to modify any classpath code. If we need changes, we > can work with classpath folks. > - We don't want to add classpath sources to our tree. this will avoid > local change

Re: Questions about the Classpath license exception

2005-05-14 Thread acoliver
I agree with what you mean but don't like your wording. I may personally love to help fix the occassional nit in classpath if its in the way of harmony and will very cooperatively contribute it to classpath. If I don't feel qualified to do it or thing others may be better suited I'll kindly s

Re: Questions about the Classpath license exception

2005-05-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Leo We can use the con call next week as the forum. Folks, Just to summarize *Ideally* what we would like, here's a list: - We don't want to modify any classpath code. If we need changes, we can work with classpath folks. - We don't want to add classpath sources to our tree. this will avoid loca

Questions about the Classpath license exception

2005-05-14 Thread Leo Simons
Hi classpath developers! (Harmony people: replies only on the classpath mailing list please, this has in reality only little to do with harmony.) "Oh no, not all that licensing crap again!" As part of the ongoing investigation whether the new Apache Harmony project can legally use GNU Classpath