Re: [Histonet] IHC Validation Question

2024-04-02 Thread Greg Dobbin via Histonet
Hi Kara, Use multi-tissue block controls with normal tissues that are treated exactly the same (pre-analytically speaking) as your routine surgical specimens. Consult NordiQC.org for recommended normal control tissue for each IHC marker. The most used multi-tissue control block in my lab has pieces

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation after a new tissue processer is installed

2020-09-02 Thread Greg Dobbin via Histonet
Hi martha, Prognostic markers must be re-validated (Eg.s Breast markers and CD117) as you described. Every Ab in your menu should be tested (as you would for a new a new lot) and do not forget to validate your H&E (with various tissue types) and SS as well. For the H&Es, if possible do side-by-sid

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation

2020-05-06 Thread Joe Myers via Histonet
Kristy: When validating an IHC procedure, regulatory guidelines like CLIA are not concerned so much with the types of specimens upon which the procedure will be applied as they are with how appropriately a given procedure detects different levels of protein expression, which, in turn, usually co

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation

2018-05-08 Thread Echague, Caren Ann - MGH via Histonet
this should be CAP compliant. Cae Aguilar, HTL (ASCP) Histology Supervisor 7079802801 -Original Message- From: Allan Wang [mailto:all...@biomax.us] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 11:02 AM Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC validation How are labs validating for

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation

2018-03-22 Thread Allan Wang via Histonet
How are labs validating for rarer biomarkers like ALK, ROS1, or MMR loss? Following the guideline of 10 positive cases may be difficult. I've seen other companies with control slides just with a few engineered cell lines as positive and negative controls. Is that enough for validation alone? We ar

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation

2018-03-22 Thread Morken, Timothy via Histonet
cal Center -Original Message- From: Dessoye, Michael via Histonet [mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 9:00 AM To: Terri Braud; 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu' Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC validation Can anyone recommend a vendor that they&#

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation

2018-03-22 Thread Dessoye, Michael via Histonet
0-552-1432 | Fax: 570-552-1484 -Original Message- From: Terri Braud [mailto:tbr...@holyredeemer.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 1:54 PM To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu' Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC validation Just another note: You can order unstained tissue micro

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation

2018-03-21 Thread Ana Maluenda via Histonet
-Original Message- From: Terri Braud [mailto:tbr...@holyredeemer.com] Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2018 4:54 AM To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu' Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC validation Just another note: You can order unstained tissue microarrays with the prerequisite numbe

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation

2018-03-20 Thread Colleen Forster via Histonet
I agree Terry, The TMA slide is a very economical and powerful way to validate with minimal slides needed. Colleen Forster On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Terri Braud via Histonet < histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> wrote: > Just another note: You can order unstained tissue microarrays with

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation

2018-03-20 Thread Terri Braud via Histonet
Just another note: You can order unstained tissue microarrays with the prerequisite number of cases, both positive and negative, and stain your validation all on one slide. I've done this for years and for 3 different validations of entire IHC platform changes, ranging from 40 to over 100 ant

Re: [Histonet] IHC VALIDATION

2018-02-27 Thread Fulton Regan via Histonet
Hi Dawn, I would suggest having a look at this CAP guidance paper, below. If I can be of any assistance, please feel free to contact me. 1. Patrick, L. F. et al. Principles of analytic validation of immunohistochemical assays: Guideline from the College of American Pathologists Pathology an

RE: [Histonet] IHC Validation:

2014-08-30 Thread Sebree Linda A
; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC Validation: Yes, ultimately up to lab director/medical director/pathologist as to determination of specificity, selectivity, and if you have enough examples, and the staining reactivity conforms to the "intended clinical use&qu

RE: [Histonet] IHC Validation:

2014-08-30 Thread Sebree Linda A
I think your last question says it all; it ultimately is up to the director although she/he better be able to explain to a CAP inspector why it was done the way it was done. We generally follow the CAP guidelines with 10 - 20 +/10-20 - cases. We've also used the internal negative elements as b

RE: [Histonet] IHC Validation:

2014-08-29 Thread Joelle Weaver
Yes, ultimately up to lab director/medical director/pathologist as to determination of specificity, selectivity, and if you have enough examples, and the staining reactivity conforms to the "intended clinical use" during their assessment and hopefully approval of your protocol. I have used some

RE: [Histonet] IHC validation:

2014-08-03 Thread Cartun, Richard
Many labs have turned to tissue microarrays (TMAs) for validating antibodies for IHC testing as a matter of convenience and lower cost. Ideally, the tissues used to make the TMA(s) should be fixed in the formalin that is used in your laboratory, as well as processed in your Histology laboratory

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation:

2014-08-03 Thread Sue
All you would need to do is id the tissue and dx on your paperwork. it should not be any different than running each blocks alone. susan T. paturzo TJU ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/m

Re: [Histonet] IHC VALIDATION

2014-03-28 Thread Bernadette Del Rosario
Please share to me as well.thanks.. > On Mar 27, 2014, at 5:06 PM, "Cartun, Richard" > wrote: > > I keep an Excel spreadsheet on all my antibodies (and probes). I list the > case number, the tissue tested, the result, "is this the expected result?", > diagnosis and/or comments, and the detec

RE: [Histonet] IHC VALIDATION

2014-03-27 Thread Cartun, Richard
I keep an Excel spreadsheet on all my antibodies (and probes). I list the case number, the tissue tested, the result, "is this the expected result?", diagnosis and/or comments, and the detection system used. I am a firm believer of maintaining a "prospective" validation meaning I add positive

RE: [Histonet] IHC validation

2013-03-16 Thread Troutman, Kenneth A
Hi Laurie, Ideally, you would like to validate both with tissues processed in your laboratory (controls and patient tissue). Purchased TMAs are okay, but they should not be the only thing used. For the instrument validation, I would definitely use tissue that has been processed in your lab an

RE: [Histonet] IHC validation

2013-03-15 Thread WILLIAM DESALVO
Laurie, I would use the control slides to validate and set up the antibodies. I good secondary check/control would be to send slides to another lab to check for correlation and confirmation of your protocol performance. Once you get an established process, then you can later check patient sample

RE: [Histonet] IHC Validation

2012-05-04 Thread burke
-Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On Behalf Of Dessoye, Michael J Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 7:51 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] IHC Validation Hello all, A year or so ago,

RE: [Histonet] IHC Validation

2012-05-04 Thread Kuhnla, Melissa
Hi, Think of yourself as a reference lab as well. You have a validated protocol for one clone already. Validate the new clone against the current. Your medical director can help you determine how many cases are sufficient. Depending on the antibody we validate anywhere from five cases to twenty.

Re: [Histonet] IHC Validation

2012-05-04 Thread Rene J Buesa
Hi Michael: This is what I think, for what it is worth: 1- if you and the reference lab are using different clones, that is not much of a validation,   2- additionally the validation using another lab poses additional problems: it is not only the instrument they are using, but how they use it, wh

RE: [Histonet] IHC validation

2011-09-01 Thread Morken, Timothy
Tim Use outside controls to validate your own internal controls. Normal control tissue is acceptable and is useful because it has consistent expression of the antigen. Cancer tissue is quite variable in expression and sometimes the expected expression is less than the normal tissue, and sometim

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation

2011-09-01 Thread Rene J Buesa
I had never done that and it would be necessary only if the tissues you are using were fixed in a different way to yours. Tissue fixation is the step that could affect reactivity because if the tissue has been fixed in an alcoholic fixative it would not need HIER and it is uncertain how this unn

Re: [Histonet] IHC Validation

2011-07-17 Thread Rene J Buesa
It will depend in how you do the validation: manually or with a high output autostainer. René J. --- On Sat, 7/16/11, kira...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: kira...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [Histonet] IHC Validation To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 8:33 PM How

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation

2011-04-19 Thread Richard Cartun
In my opinion, only if it affects immunoreactivity. Richard Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD Director, Histology & Immunopathology Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT 06102 (860) 545-1596 Office (860) 545-220

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation

2011-04-19 Thread Rene J Buesa
Not really because the Hematoxylin should "affect" only the nuclei UNLESS it is a nuclear antibody, in which case the antigenic reaction could be obscured. For nuclear Abs I used to dilute my hematoxylin as much as possible or did not use it at all. René J. --- On Tue, 4/19/11, Ring, Mary L wr

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation

2011-02-10 Thread BSullivan
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RE: [Histonet] IHC validation

2011-02-09 Thread Martha Ward
...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:27 PM To: Histonet; Joe Nocito Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC validation Joe: This is what I would do; 1- run 1 control slide per antibody you have in your "arsenal"

RE: [Histonet] IHC validation

2011-02-09 Thread Weems, Joyce
Rene says it this way! j -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 15:27 To: Histonet; Joe Nocito Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC validation Joe: This is w

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation

2011-02-09 Thread Rene J Buesa
Joe: This is what I would do; 1- run 1 control slide per antibody you have in your "arsenal" 2- compare the result with a control slide already in your files. 3- show both slides to the chief pathologist (after all is his/her opinion the one is going to be asked by CAP) 4- those antibodies whose p

RE:[Histonet] IHC validation

2011-02-09 Thread Troutman, Kenneth A
Joyce" Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC validation To: Liz Chlipala , Joe Nocito , Histonet Message-ID: <92ad9b20a6c38c4587a9febe3a30e164081e09a...@chexcms10.one.ads.che.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" But that is for receptors, correct? Do you do that

RE: [Histonet] IHC validation

2011-02-08 Thread Sally Price
Liz: I'd like to know more about these recommendations. Could you provide a journal reference to the paper from CAP? Thx, Sally -- Message: 15 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:19:53 -0700 From: "Liz Chlipala" Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC validation To: "

Re: [Histonet] IHC validation

2011-02-08 Thread Joe Nocito
#x27;Liz Chlipala'" ; "Weems, Joyce" ; "Joe Nocito" ; "Histonet" Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 5:37 PM Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC validation When changing instruments you are validating the instrument, not the test. For each antibody you just need to ru

RE: [Histonet] IHC validation

2011-02-08 Thread Liz Chlipala
y.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 4:38 PM To: Liz Chlipala; Weems, Joyce; Joe Nocito; Histonet Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC validation When changing instruments you are validating the instrument, not the test. For each antibody you just need to run parallel tests in each instrument sh

RE: [Histonet] IHC validation

2011-02-08 Thread Morken, Tim
Nocito; Histonet Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC validation Nope that's the recommendation for everything, in the paper they state additional development is required for prognostic markers. Once you have validated an antibody it only requires 3 tissues when you get a new lot number: 1 strong pos

RE: [Histonet] IHC validation

2011-02-08 Thread Liz Chlipala
To: Liz Chlipala; Joe Nocito; Histonet Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC validation But that is for receptors, correct? Do you do that for everything? Thanks, j -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behal

RE: [Histonet] IHC validation

2011-02-08 Thread Weems, Joyce
Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC validation Joe If you are following the recommendations from the CAP paper on IHC standardization then it would be 25 tissues (10 strong positive, 10 weak to moderate positive and 5 negative). Liz Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC Manager Premier Laboratory

RE: [Histonet] IHC validation

2011-02-08 Thread Liz Chlipala
Joe If you are following the recommendations from the CAP paper on IHC standardization then it would be 25 tissues (10 strong positive, 10 weak to moderate positive and 5 negative). Liz Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC Manager Premier Laboratory, LLC PO Box 18592 Boulder, Colorado 80308

RE: [Histonet] IHC Validation (again)

2010-05-19 Thread Liz Chlipala
Laurie I'm not aware of a particular question, but I would believe you would have to perform some validation steps for each antibody. I would approach it the same way you approach validating new lots of antisera. The CAP paper on standardization of IHC recommends 25 different samples when you ini

RE: [Histonet] IHC Validation on new instrument

2010-05-19 Thread Liz Chlipala
We perform our entire validation process as a new piece of equipment. Our validation protocols are quite extensive, up to about 85 pages long on each piece of major equipment, at least that's what it was for our new prisma stainer and glass coverslipper. We perform an installation/operational qual