Ha, surely you kid!
I didn't go into science for the money, but only because I love it. Even
though I get paid horribly (seriously, I qualify for Medicaid when the
government includes my husband's income!), I love being in a lab.
This is with a BS in Microbiology.
I try not to think about the mone
13 9:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
Do you get paid more with that title? Just curious, I'm not sure what
"laboratory professional" means, as I'm not in that kind of lab.
Or is it a respect thing?
Emily
"By bitching an
We may not be considered "laboratory professionals", but we might just have
more fun than they do ?
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CC: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Do it! For
Do it! For all of us!
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Emily Sours
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sage-
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Seriously, I can go home?!
I'm going t
Sours'
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I don't think that histotechs are disrespected at all. There is always going
to be that one person in any job that thinks they are better than you because
of whatever reason. HTs are not the highest
7;
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The issue remains the WE cannot impose on others how we are viewed. No matter
how many brain storming meetings there are about "demanding" respect the issue
remains that those who have to respect us have to d
are Thornton; 'Emily Sours'
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Sorry Sarah some of us old timers do have BS and even MS degrees and still have
to fight for every dime. The whole field needs to be improved without any
thought of how long someone has be
Seriously, I can go home?!
I'm going to tell my boss that Sarah Dysart said I could go home. When she
asks who that is, I'll just look at her and repeat your name. Slowly.
And walk away.
Emily
"By bitching and bitching and bitching, they could exhaust the drama of
their own horror stories. Grow
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Tim Well said
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Morken, Timothy
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:54 AM
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
This discussion comes
ot;histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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My apologies, the editorial was in the September 2011 issue of Journal of
Histotechnology. I have a pdf of it, will be happy to email.
Clare J. Thornton, HTL(ASC
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Emily Sours
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Do you get paid more with that title? Just curious, I'm not su
This very long thread deals with a very complicated and ages long issue so I
would like to add my opinion.
The fundamental issue is that the pathologists do not respect the histotechs
because for them the only thing that matters is that the sections are good,
well stained and finished on time. T
mela A
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
Histology does not get the respect or the recognition because histologists do
not report results. All of the complex testing we do is overlooked because the
pathologis
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Morken, Timothy
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:54 AM
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This discussion comes up every year and, of course is never resol
rn.edu] On Behalf Of Pam Marcum
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To: Joyce K. Weems
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We also need NSH to step up and do what they said they would years ago instead
of planning more and more meetings pe
amela A
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Even if a facility does not require that techs be HT registered - the
technicians themselves need go that extra step, take the initiative themselves
and become HT certifi
...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Marcum, Pamela A
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Just a comment on the comment about there being "not enough" HT/HTL programs
in the US. Agreed. There are 38 HT and 7 HTL, for a total of 45. Compare
that with 223 MLS/MT and 233 MLT, for a total of 456, and we histot
erMacDonald'
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We have heard for years that NSH is working on changing the status to
Laboratory Professionals and so far as I have heard nothing happening to
make the change. A
Thanks for your point of view and insights Pam- we need to know what employers
are seeking to keep marketable.
Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
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> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregist
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> Just a comment on the comment about there being
Many states and regions are affiliated with NSH and have state societies that
have annual meetings with one or two days of seminars and workshops that are
reasonably priced and hopefully close enough to allow attendance. The National
Society for Histotechnology has a meeting at a specified loca
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Histology does not get the respect or the recognition because histologists do
not report results. All of the complex testing we do is overlooked because the
pathologists report the results. CLIA standards are based on res
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Emily Sours
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Do you get paid more with that title? Just curious, I'm not sure what
&
Do you get paid more with that title? Just curious, I'm not sure what
"laboratory professional" means, as I'm not in that kind of lab.
Or is it a respect thing?
Emily
"By bitching and bitching and bitching, they could exhaust the drama of
their own horror stories. Grow bored. Only then could they
Pam Marcum
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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:39:03 AM
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They are only as good as we are, so we need them to fight for us!!
Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
Histology does not get the respect or
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
Histology does not get the respect or the recognition because histologists do
not report results. All of the complex testing we do is overlooked because the
pathologists report the results. CLIA standar
Donald'; Marcum, Pamela A
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And the reason so many have been fighting for this for years. If a lab were
looking for a Medical Technologist there would be no question.
J
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And the reason so many have been fighting for this for years. If a lab were
looking for a Medical Technologist there would be no question.
Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-84
nifer
MacDonald
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To: Marcum, Pamela A
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
As long as we do not need certification, licensure and minium education
requirements we will not be recog
er'" , "'Emily Sours'"
, "histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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Subject:RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
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I agree we have huge gray areas and not all histology schools are as good
a
southwestern.edu"
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I agree we have huge gray areas and not all histology schools are as good
as they could be for what we are facing in Histology. I keep har
.
Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
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> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:53:26 +
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> Research is a different area and
lle weaver [mailto:joellewea...@hotmail.com]
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>
> ** **
>
> Well I am mostly clinical...but I think
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Well I am mostly clinical...but I think that organizations can set standards
outside and beyond what CAP,CLIA etc stipulate. For the position I have now, I
had to submit all my transcripts from high school up through masters in
n.edu
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Do employers consider lab techs to be proficient enough? I've been doing ISH
and immuno for 13 years, but I'm not certified as I do research. Maybe there
aren't a lot of lab techs out there? Just wondering since you might be missing
I do not control their hiring criteria.
Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 09:20:20 -0400
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
From: talulahg...@gmail.com
To: joellewea...@hotmail.com
CC: dels...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Do employers
Do employers consider lab techs to be proficient enough? I've been doing
ISH and immuno for 13 years, but I'm not certified as I do research. Maybe
there aren't a lot of lab techs out there? Just wondering since you might
be missing someone awesome by hiring only certified people.
"By bitching an
All I have is a "histology assistant" description I put together. It is mostly
clerical, instrument up keep and other duties. My employer does not hire
uncertified techs- due to CLIA license, grossing, FISH & molecular duties (
high complexity). I hope to be a clinical site eventually, and then
Please if there is an exact list of duties let us all know.
We have had trainees and we basically taught embedding, processing and
staining, in other words basic Histology. This included special stains as the
persons involved would be taking their registries after one year of training.
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>
> Yes, the pathologist is interpreting. Although the HT is evaluating the
> stain quality, I personally think that it should fall under 'high
> complexity testi
ubject: Re: [Histonet] Unregistered HT testing
The pathologist is interpreting the staining result, right? The HT is
only evaluating the stain quality, not the results.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 18, 2012, at 9:43 AM, "Dessoye, Michael J"
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> Our interpretation of special stains/IH
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT testing
CLIA does stipulate education requirements though for high complexity( I
don't have it hand
The pathologist is interpreting the staining result, right? The HT is only
evaluating the stain quality, not the results.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 18, 2012, at 9:43 AM, "Dessoye, Michael J"
wrote:
> Our interpretation of special stains/IHC/ISH is that it is the
> 'interpretation' of these s
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> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT testing
> CC:
>
> Our interpretation of special stains/IHC/ISH is that it is the
> 'interpretation' of these stains that is 'high complexit
Our interpretation of special stains/IHC/ISH is that it is the
'interpretation' of these stains that is 'high complexity'. I believe
that CLIA is the place where 'high complexity' is defined (although CAP
may expand on this) and CLIA does not recognize ASCP registration.
Michael J. Dessoye, M.S.
It's a lot easier/cheaper for reproducibility, HR, and compliance to just
buy an autostainer to do your special stains. Trying to do them by
hand with unregistered techs is a bad idea. They are called "special"
;) for a reason.
Buy a "special" ;) stainer, have the "special"ist ;) from the staine
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