Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-04 Thread tom
Then again, hindsight really is 20/20 - you wouldn't be having this problem if you used linux as your corporate desktop :) But under Linux there is no 'Visual Studio', and someone who comes from the win32 world doesn't want to miss this tool, although i think vi/emacs make is better than anything

Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-04 Thread Michael A. Hobson
Tom, There are about as many Integrated Development Environments (IDEs) for Linux as there are for Win-Blows. Metroworx Codewarrior for Linux is a commercial IDE that equals or exceeds Micro$haft Visual Studio in functionality and ease-of-use. (

Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-04 Thread Florian Zschocke
Manip wrote: But nowhere in his post was VPN mentioned so right now this is speculation. It is all speculation. But apparently some people have nothing better to do with their time than speculate about this and that and how some prick shafted Valve. I would like to hear you explain the

Re: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-03 Thread Pat Magnan
I agree.. kinda like biting the hand that feeds you isn't it?? At 05:04 PM 10/2/2003 -0500, you wrote: Yes. With a little setup, everything compiles. On a side note... anyone know if the new Worldcraft can be compiled from the leaked code? Wow. C'mon guys, I know it's hard not to talk

RE: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-03 Thread Jeff Katz
Wow. That really, really sucks. Then again, hindsight really is 20/20 - you wouldn't be having this problem if you used linux as your corporate desktop :) Apart from the humor, this looks to be very well thought out by professionals... The term 'corporate hackers' comes to mind.

Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-03 Thread Stan Bubrouski
Jeff Katz wrote: Wow. That really, really sucks. Then again, hindsight really is 20/20 - you wouldn't be having this problem if you used linux as your corporate desktop :) Apart from the humor, this looks to be very well thought out by professionals... The term 'corporate hackers' comes to mind.

RE: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-03 Thread jeremy
Releasing the source goes beyond the point of annoying kid to federal criminal. Yes and with the Millions and Million valve has invested into this thing you can bet the FBI is involved. Jeremy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view

Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread Ben Banfield
A confirmation or statement from valve would be required before hearing how this affects things. Stan Bubrouski wrote: Well, As many of you probably know, the source to HL2 is being distributed over P2P and IRC already. Valve, I have heard nothing from your end, on this... how does this affect

Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread illogic
: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked A confirmation or statement from valve would be required before hearing how this affects things. Stan Bubrouski wrote: Well, As many of you probably know, the source to HL2 is being distributed over P2P and IRC already. Valve, I have heard nothing

Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread Stan Bubrouski
- Original Message - From: Ben Banfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked A confirmation or statement from valve would be required before hearing how this affects things. Stan Bubrouski wrote: Well, As many

Re: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread david.duke
Lawsuits, hmm... Havok might not be too happy if _their_ source code is in there... From: illogic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/02 Thu PM 12:54:08 MDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked One things for sure, if it is real, someones going to feel it. I think

Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread Stan Bubrouski
: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked One things for sure, if it is real, someones going to feel it. I think from a legal standpoint there safe, i cant say for sure, but man that certianly sucks. - Original Message - From: Ben Banfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday

Re: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread david.duke
] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked One things for sure, if it is real, someones going to feel it. I think from a legal standpoint there safe, i cant say for sure, but man that certianly sucks. - Original Message - From: Ben Banfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread jeremy
No offense to anyone, but that's a pretty rediculous sounding rumor. Why exactly would Valve give ATI a copy of their HL1, CS, TF2, and HL2 source code? What, are they contracting ATI to proofread their code comments? Actually ATI having at least partial code makes sense. I remember reading

RE: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread Matt
Hi. All. Gabe just posted This on halflife2.net but the forums just got slashdotted so here. Also, apparently the leak occured via Outlook trojan. Ever have one of those weeks? This has just not been the best couple of days for me or for Valve. Yes, the

Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread Matt
For those of you running dedicated servers I've seen 2 or 3 poeple post in IRC about how they have been finding what could be exploitalble buffer overflows in hlds. Of course, none of them were willing to comment any further so I don't know how great a threat this may be. Anyone running a server

RE: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread Matt
Yes. With a little setup, everything compiles. On a side note... anyone know if the new Worldcraft can be compiled from the leaked code? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:

RE: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread david.duke
Ever have one of those weeks? This has just not been the best couple of days for me or for Valve. I feel for you Valve, sorry this happened. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:

Re: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread voogru
1) Starting around 9/11 of this year, someone other than me was accessing my email account. This has been determined by looking at traffic on our email server versus my travel schedule. Im lost... Why did he not change his password? - voogru. ___ To

RE: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread Steven Van Ingelgem
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] http://halflife2.net/ Gabe Newell from Valve Software posted on our very own forums regarding the source code leak. He confirms that it is real, and he describes some trouble he and the company have had recently with hackers. Here's a bit of

Re: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread david.duke
politely request that people on this list refrain from giving out information to help other people gain from Valve's loss. Point taken, I'll shut up now. From: voogru [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2002/01/01 Tue AM 04:00:00 MST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

Re: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread botman
1) Starting around 9/11 of this year, someone other than me was accessing my email account. This has been determined by looking at traffic on our email server versus my travel schedule. Im lost... Why did he not change his password? Because hindsight is 20/20. I would bet that Gabe only

Re: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread Matt Chambers
Sorry, Botman + Valve. I made a mistake. I got the info from Halflife2.net, isn't that owned and operated by Valve as well? I just figured that since every game forum in the world, including halflife2.net has the info, it was ok to post it. On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 18:04, botman wrote: Yes.

Re: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread david.duke
Perhaps Valve will restructure their internal network so that the family jewels never sit on a machine that has any kind of external Internet access. I don't think that would've mattered. The source code was probably grabbed from SourceSafe (or equivalent) using someone's network

RE: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread Onions
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matt Chambers Sent: 02 October 2003 23:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked Sorry, Botman + Valve. I made a mistake. I got the info from Halflife2.net, isn't that owned and operated

Re: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked

2003-10-02 Thread illogic
welll thankyou microsoft. :| - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:19 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlcoders] HL2 Source Leaked Hi. All. Gabe just posted This on halflife2.net but the forums just got slashdotted so here