Re: [hlds] Holiday Punch Exploit

2012-01-30 Thread Emil Larsson
For anyone not aware, this is a fairly serious exploit that crashes clients (but not the server itself). I hope Valve is aware of the bug and is about to fix it soon (I gladly describe to Valve how it's done). On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Taylor Smith taylorsssm...@gmail.comwrote: Any

Re: [hlds] Holiday Punch Exploit

2012-01-30 Thread Bruno Garcia
Describe it in here, it's the best way on contacting them. Or contact them directly, don't wait for them to come to you. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:

Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters

2012-01-30 Thread AnAkIn .
DBlocker can detect more cheats than SMAC. One of the most used public cheats is detected by DBlocker. 2012/1/30 Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com I was reading the Kigen forums and a lot of people are banned for sv_consistency errors, which could be as simple as just having a skin on a server

Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters

2012-01-30 Thread Drogen Viech
Can both be used together without problems? I would disable automatic banning in one of them of course. 2012/1/30 AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com: DBlocker can detect more cheats than SMAC. One of the most used public cheats is detected by DBlocker. 2012/1/30 Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com I

Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters

2012-01-30 Thread Jeff Sugar
Is it safe/okay to use dblocker along with smac? Or is it like antivirus applications in that having more than one can result in undesirable complications? On Jan 30, 2012 4:13 AM, Drogen Viech drogenvi...@googlemail.com wrote: Can both be used together without problems? I would disable

Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters

2012-01-30 Thread AnAkIn .
Try it and see. 2012/1/30 Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com Is it safe/okay to use dblocker along with smac? Or is it like antivirus applications in that having more than one can result in undesirable complications? On Jan 30, 2012 4:13 AM, Drogen Viech drogenvi...@googlemail.com wrote: Can

Re: [hlds] hlds Digest, Vol 10, Issue 62

2012-01-30 Thread Taylor Smith
It's actually the other way around, it doesn't crash clients but it wrecks havoc on the server. It causes 100% cpu utalization, so any other servers on the same box are going to start stuttering as well. It's done by using the holiday punch on a physics object, the holiday punch needs to hit a

Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters

2012-01-30 Thread Kyle Sanderson
Depends on which SMAC modules you're planning on/are using. Should be fine though. Kyle. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com wrote: Is it safe/okay to use dblocker along with smac? Or is it like antivirus applications in that having more than one can result in

Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters

2012-01-30 Thread Jeff Sugar
Er, the primary reason I asked was to avoid the try and see approach, which could lead to a multitude of undesirable and/or unnoticeable results :( For example, the server may crash the very next time a hacker enters the server, whether that be tomorrow or a month from now. It's also entirely

Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters

2012-01-30 Thread Jeff Sugar
Thanks for the info - do you have any idea offhand which ones would cause them to intermingle improperly? For what it's worth, we're running the Aimbot/AutoTrigger/Spinhack detectors, Client Protection, Command Monitor, ConVar Checker, Eye Angle Test, and Anti-Speedhack SMAC modules. I don't

Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters

2012-01-30 Thread Emil Larsson
You should find out pretty fast if they conflict with each other if you try (though it does increase the total cpu usage obviously), although personally I think it's reduant. We're using SMAC as that's actively developed (being a fork of KAC as far I understand and all?). KAC itself hadn't been

Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters

2012-01-30 Thread AnAkIn .
Releasing DBlocker source code would be pretty stupid since it would let all cheat coders know how their cheats are being detected and they'd quickly get around it. 2012/1/30 Emil Larsson ail...@gmail.com You should find out pretty fast if they conflict with each other if you try (though it

Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters

2012-01-30 Thread Jeff Sugar
Yeah, SMAC forked off from KAC when, to make a long story short and simple, Kigen opted to stop working on KAC due to a scuffle between him and some of the SM staff. After development on SMAC started up, he changed his mindhttp://www.kigenac.com/viewtopic.php?f=26t=1134, but it was too little, too

Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters

2012-01-30 Thread Admin
Exactly. Its worse than that. As for prior comments. I am probably more informed on the situation than most, at least no less that up to date, but there's a reason for that. I stand by my prior comments and findings (Mike) SMAC does not force one to use the global database and would most

Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters

2012-01-30 Thread Emil Larsson
Reverse engineering code is really easy, and not as tough as it seems. A lot of the hackers are quite determined, especially the ones who does it for money. So I always considered that a weak argument. Although as a server admin it's more about trust anyway. It hadn't happened within Source

Re: [hlds] Dealing with persistent cheaters

2012-01-30 Thread Emil Larsson
Oh, don't get me wrong I wasn't accusing anyone of stealing data (infact people usually find out really fast if a plugin or program is doing something it's not supposed to). :) Just stating my intentions that I trust software with source available more. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:00 PM, AnAkIn .

[hlds] [TF2] Bizarre Physics Behavior

2012-01-30 Thread brandon johnson
Over the past month I've noticed some bizarre physics behavior on my server, namely rocket explosions seem to be launching people further than expected. Here's a video detailing exactly what i mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7J22JCIBPA as you can see the scout is launched far over the shed