Re: [hlds_linux] Reporting Server Hackers

2003-07-22 Thread Tony Di Schino
--- Game Servers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How do I report a wonid to vac so that they can permanently ban it? The wonid is 660394. He hacked our server and is banning everyone, kicking, and

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Stefan Huszics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to recall, once upon a time, that there can sometimes be a delay between when a CD-KEY is active and then shown inactive on WON. Leading, sometimes to false CD-KEY IN USE errors... But is it likely that the users IP would have changed before the wonid database

Re: [hlds_linux] Reporting Server Hackers

2003-07-22 Thread Simon Garner
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:36 AM [GMT+1200=NZT], Britt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can easily sniff network traffic if you have the target IP and resolve their MAC Address with certain progs out there - however since this is all UDP - not much you can do - if it used TCP - you could add

RE: [hlds_linux] Reporting Server Hackers

2003-07-22 Thread Tony Di Schino
--- Game Servers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do u keep an rcon secure if it's not encrypted? I have fixed this rcon_password rcon by nature is a vulnerability. use admin_mod or amx. gg if u have nothing constructive to say, please refrain from posting. right back atcha, pally.

RE: [hlds_linux] Reporting Server Hackers

2003-07-22 Thread Game Servers
Wow I was about to thank you for your help. Until u flamed me. It was a legit question since I didn't want to send an email directly without going through a chain of commands type thing. Apparently you are the ignorant one. This list is for help not start flame wars. I have found this list to

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Stefan Huszics wrote: I seem to recall, once upon a time, that there can sometimes be a delay between when a CD-KEY is active and then shown inactive on WON. Leading, sometimes to false CD-KEY IN USE errors... But is it likely that the users IP would have changed before the wonid database manages

Re: [hlds_linux] Reporting Server Hackers

2003-07-22 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Game Servers wrote: I understand that what he was telling me was common sense. I already did everything that he told me and what you told me before I even posted. So please don't say I didn't do anything. Dude, if you want to keep being a jackass, go for it. But you're just feeding the flames

Re: [hlds_linux] Reporting Server Hackers

2003-07-22 Thread Stefan Huszics
Game Servers wrote: How do u keep an rcon secure if it's not encrypted? By not using the rcon EVER. Instead install eg Adminmod or AMXmod and the rcon will not be sent over the internet. This of cource assumes that when you say he said he hacked our server you are talikng about the

Re: [hlds_linux] Reporting Server Hackers

2003-07-22 Thread Britt
Computer crime laws have become stiff in the USA - just by intruding into that machine either directly or indirectly is a felony in the US - so something would be done about it - we've done it several times. Britt - Original Message - From: Simon Garner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Jeremy Brooking
Eric (Deacon) wrote: Exactly, Stefan. If the CD-KEY IN USE error message comes up, it's because Valve's received the communication, looked it up, and given it the thumbs-down. If it's coming from the same IP, then don't worry about it. If it's coming from different IP's, reject that CD-Key for

Re: [hlds_linux] Reporting Server Hackers

2003-07-22 Thread Mad Scientist
According to the great words of Simon Garner: I can't really see them caring too much about some kid stealing the rcon password for some other kid's l33t cs server... Depends on what was hacked and what other stuff is in the server farm. Maybe an e-commerce website? Cusomer information?

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Simon Garner
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:27 PM [GMT+1200=NZT], James Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When it has become an issue it doesn't matter who it is, the owner or the owners mate... both will be made to pay (and learn). In much the same way as all of those brothers out there got caught with

Re: [hlds_linux] Feature Request - Ability to ban by MAC address[OT]

2003-07-22 Thread Jeremy Brooking
Tony Di Schino wrote: Unfortunately, I doubt that will even happen with the deployment of IPV6 I dunno about that... http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/22/1413248mode=flattid=126tid=95 The 'Impending IP crisis' is over stated. Less than half the 4 1/2 billion hosts ipv4 provides are

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread James Clark
And what if some punk with a keygen gets lucky and generates your key, then goes and plays CS - then you go to play and it says the key is in use and you get banned? As far as I know you'd have to be VERY lucky to do this with WON. Yes I do know what it is like for this to happen - I bought

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Simon Garner
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:02 PM [GMT+1200=NZT], James Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also think people are getting confused between two things 1 - multiple people using same key. 2 - the 'key is in use' issue some people suffer when it isn't actually in use. This thread is about

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Jeremy Brooking
Simon Garner wrote: Plastic wrappered aren't they? I can't remember - been a while since I bought my copy. They should be, but not always. -Simon Not to mention, those plastic wrapper machines most companies have... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your

Re: [hlds_linux] Reporting Server Hackers

2003-07-22 Thread Jeremy Brooking
Eric (Deacon) wrote: Dude, if you want to keep being a jackass, go for it. But you're just feeding the flames of your own fire that you started. lol, hypocrite. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Jeremy Brooking
James Clark wrote: I don't think cd key in use problems should be lumped together with cheating - they're a different issue. Why not? The worst cheaters are also CD-Key stealers/traders. ...and some of the best players, occasionaly get CD Key in use. But ban them anyway, because they could

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Jeremy Brooking wrote: Eric (Deacon) wrote: Jeremy Brooking wrote: Eric (Deacon) wrote: Yes, you've figured me out :roll: Do you have anything intelligent to say? Praise or criticizm of the idea, or are you just a jackass? Oh of course eric, you are the only person has puts positive input into

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Jeremy Brooking
Simon Garner wrote: This might help fix the timeout/reconnect issue. But it still doesn't help you to determine which player is the legitimate owner of the key and which is not. That is the crux of the problem. You cannot ban a player just for using the same key as another player. -Simon

Re: [hlds_linux] Reporting Server Hackers

2003-07-22 Thread Britt
Its clear text for sure in UDP - but in TCP its formed in a set packet - which can be disassembled and viewed. You can give me any IP Address and I can sniff/watch the traffic from that IP. SSL encrypts the entire TCP packet - I'm speaking the % garbling it to make it harder to understand what

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Jeremy Brooking wrote: Simon Garner wrote: This might help fix the timeout/reconnect issue. But it still doesn't help you to determine which player is the legitimate owner of the key and which is not. That is the crux of the problem. You cannot ban a player just for using the same key as another

Re: [hlds_linux] Reporting Server Hackers

2003-07-22 Thread Simon Garner
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:08 PM [GMT+1200=NZT], Britt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can give me any IP Address and I can sniff/watch the traffic from that IP. Uh? no. Dream on. -Simon ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the

Re: [hlds_linux] Reporting Server Hackers

2003-07-22 Thread jeremy
Quoting Britt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You can give me any IP Address and I can sniff/watch the traffic from that IP. 210.56.34.71 Yes the address is up. Yes the address is routable. Yes I know you cant ping it. Yes this box does traffic, adverages 2mb/s No it does not run a CS server. So show

Re: [hlds_linux] Reporting Server Hackers

2003-07-22 Thread Brad Schulteis
You can give me any IP Address and I can sniff/watch the traffic from that IP. Granted you are on the same subnet...You can't just get anyone else's traffic? If you can, please explain... On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 00:08, Britt wrote: Its clear text for sure in UDP - but in TCP its formed in a set

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Michael Ressen
-Original Message- From: Simon Garner [EMAIL PROTECTED] You cannot ban a player just for using the same key as another player. Sure I can. Key-sharing? No, I don't believe it. Multiple keys are used for one thing: cheating. Anyone I see flip flop between keys, I'll ban them on