[hlds_linux] Alternate startup shell script for multiple servers

2008-11-27 Thread jps . sgtrock
Posting this in hopes some may find it useful. First, the caveats: * This script will use more RAM than using Valve's forking binary because it fires up a fresh copy of not only the game but also a screen session. * This script has next to no error checking, so make sure you modify it to suit

[hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Japje | Jasper Wonnink
Hey guys, After a long time i decided to put up some servers again, and lately im working on a lot of ipv6 business cases so i wondered if hlds supported it and i tried to bind my hlds to an ipv6 address, which it failed (came as little surpise). And i wondered if you are planning to support the

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Saint K.
Agreed, we're closing into a country wide IPv6 rollout as well here, so it would be more then advisable to get IPv6 support up as soon as possible! Cheers, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Japje | Jasper Wonnink Sent: Thursday, November

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Saint K.
Agreed, we're closing into a country wide IPv6 rollout as well here, so it would be more then advisable to get IPv6 support up as soon as possible! Cheers, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Japje | Jasper Wonnink Sent: Thursday, November

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Thomas Morton
Implementing IPV6 is probably more of a pain than they can be bothered to work at (I would imagine). Seeing as it *still* is not ready, complete or accepted as standard (another 3 or 4 years do we reckon?) it seems fairly pointless. Plus of course you have the IPV6 jack of all trades useless for

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Japje | Jasper Wonnink
Thomas Morton wrote: Implementing IPV6 is probably more of a pain than they can be bothered to work at (I would imagine). Seeing as it *still* is not ready, complete or accepted as standard (another 3 or 4 years do we reckon?) it seems fairly pointless. It is ready, and has been for many

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Saint K.
The ISP's in the Netherlands are already starting to roll out IPv6. The SIDN, local top level domain administrators already fully support IPv6. Special setup government actions are being coordinated for a faster IPv6 rollout. IPv6 is coming way faster then you can imagine. Before you make any

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Thomas Morton
I never said IPV6 was new - just that it's not really ready. TBH it's a load of crap - it makes the network stack a lot more complicated. And because it has taken so long we have shore up methods that mean large companies aren't worried about adopting it (because it means screwing around with

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Thomas Morton
BTW because there is no backwards compatibility IPV6 will never become mainstream. The cost to switch would be $500 billion PLUS (and probs htat it just for the states). If IPV6 was backwards compatible we could just progress ot it.. if only :( Thomas Morton ++ No problem should ever have to be

Re: [hlds_linux] Autoupdate start option

2008-11-27 Thread AnAkIn .
Any news about this? Will there be an update soon which fix this? 2008/11/20 Arg! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Milton and Chris, much appreciated. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Jeff Sugar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They could still make it work for Windows boxes, at least. On Wed, Nov

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Saint K.
The ISP's in the Netherlands are already starting to roll out IPv6. The SIDN, local top level domain administrators already fully support IPv6. Special setup government actions are being coordinated for a faster IPv6 rollout. IPv6 is coming way faster then you can imagine. Before you make any

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Oliver Salzburg
Saint K. wrote: The ISP's in the Netherlands are already starting to roll out IPv6. The SIDN, local top level domain administrators already fully support IPv6. Special setup government actions are being coordinated for a faster IPv6 rollout. IPv6 is coming way faster then you can imagine.

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Thomas Morton
Before you make any other statements based on nothing, please consult; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6 Sorry to plug on a subject ;) but I wold like to respond to this (veiled insult...) with some credentials. I work for an IT security firm - we deploy large networks to companies globally. We

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Saint K.
Yea, the problem is, I'm a network engineer myself as well. Anyhow, besides that, you can discuss long or short on the subject on how bad, good or whatever IPv6 is. The bottom line remains, it will be implemented, it will be fast, and there is no way around it. At one certain point IPv4 ranges

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Saint K.
Yea, the problem is, I'm a network engineer myself as well. Anyhow, besides that, you can discuss long or short on the subject on how bad, good or whatever IPv6 is. The bottom line remains, it will be implemented, it will be fast, and there is no way around it. At one certain point IPv4 ranges

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Japje | Jasper Wonnink
Thomas Morton wrote: Before you make any other statements based on nothing, please consult; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6 Sorry to plug on a subject ;) but I wold like to respond to this (veiled insult...) with some credentials. I work for an IT security firm - we deploy large

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Thomas Morton
No dice. IPV4 still cant talk effectivley (if at all) to IPV6 - so on the edge it is inherently useles.. simply because either everyone has to be able to use it or no one. (example: ipv6.google.com) Thomas Morton ++ No problem should ever have to be solved twice ++ 2008/11/27 Saint K.

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Thomas Morton
Are talking about the IPV8 from Jim Fleming? theres no sane document to be found on that. Apologies. I meant IPV7 http://www.ripe.net/ripe/maillists/archives/ripe-org-closed/1993/msg00024.html (which does attempt to address the huge routing issue IPV6 ignores :P) Admitteldy the combination of

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread Thomas Morton
Damn that uis not what I meant to link :( I had an 06 post bookmarked somehwere let me dig around again. Thomas Morton ++ No problem should ever have to be solved twice ++ 2008/11/27 Thomas Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are talking about the IPV8 from Jim Fleming? theres no sane document to be

Re: [hlds_linux] -fork configuration tip (dominic)

2008-11-27 Thread Dominic Baranski
I was waiting for someone to actually talk about how load average works.. Thank you! You're the first person to actually mention that load average is the length of the process queue on the system. Now, if anyone looks into this further they will immediately find that load average for one system

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread J T
NAT is never a security feature. Ipv6 brings a lot of good things like performance and stability and easy configuration. Better routes and we are finally get rid of NAT. which is _NOT_ a security feature! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list

Re: [hlds_linux] -fork configuration tip (dominic)

2008-11-27 Thread J T
You should have replied to the original thread, easier for people who go through the list archives to find valuable information like this. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:57 AM, Dominic Baranski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was waiting for someone to actually talk about how load average works.. Thank

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds/srcds ipv6 support

2008-11-27 Thread J T
When people can't get on facebook or youtube or even redtube. Then yea, they will be forced to move over to IPv6. If you force people, it always seems to work. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Thomas Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No dice. IPV4 still cant talk effectivley (if at all) to

Re: [hlds_linux] -fork configuration tip (dominic)

2008-11-27 Thread Nander Paardekooper
And now I have a question ;-) What the hell can i do with -fork, because i cannot find any information about it on any hlds site or manual. Best regards, Nander Paardekooper. J T schreef: You should have replied to the original thread, easier for people who go through the list archives to

Re: [hlds_linux] -fork configuration tip

2008-11-27 Thread jps . sgtrock
You're welcome. :) Somebody else pointed out a key point that I had forgotten about that affects how you interpret load average, though. The queue depth needs to be measured against the number of CPUs in your server. Load average is actually the number of running processes /plus/ processes