RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-19 Thread Alfred Reynolds
s has been). - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 1:09 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? Vulgarisms? When was I vulgar? The wo

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-19 Thread Dagok
consider that flaming or take offense to my tone...I quite frankly don't care. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Ondřej Hošek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 1:40 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? You, fortuna

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-19 Thread Clayton Macleod
why would they out of nowhere give some random cvar 'cheat' status for no reason? Right, they wouldn't. They'd have a reason to do so. As curious as any of us are, there's really no reason they absolutely must explain every little decision they make. On 6/19/05, Ondřej Hošek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-19 Thread Ondřej Hošek
e of CSS, probably due to > some > sort of abuse that cheaters/hackers discovered. > > Maybe Alfred will answer your question and maybe he won't, and quite > frankly > "He" doesn't have to just because you say so. > > Dagok > > > - Origi

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-19 Thread Dagok
--- Original Message - From: "Ondřej Hošek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? Okay. I have looked through the message history of this mailing list. Now, I would like to ask a quest

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-19 Thread Ondřej Hošek
Okay. I have looked through the message history of this mailing list. Now, I would like to ask a question. Anybody who starts flaming me will be classified as a lesser life form (and I will casually reply with an FU), since I don't need your "you are an idiot/cheater scum/...", I would like to ha

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-19 Thread Dagok
u you wouldn't keep coming and posting in response to people that you think are flaming you. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Vapor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? Look

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-19 Thread Vapor
Look folks, thanks for the support but this bickering is pointless. I care not about this lists opinion of me and never will, you don't know me and making uninformed baseless assumptions regarding my motives only serves in aggravating yourself and others, it certainly isn't bothering me. I urge all

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Dagok
, 2005 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? Dagok wrote: Admins that abuse their own server to cheat while claiming to provide a cheat free server are scum...plain and simple. Dagok He ran an app that increases the client's FPS by disabling a high qualit

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Vapor
Thanks for finding the time to clarify. Apologies for starting the flaming war, that was not my intention. Firstly by way of update, as of this morning that steam account's VAC status has returned to "In good standing". I'm assuming this is temporary and that it was the imposing/notification of al

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Stan Bubrouski
as long as VAC2 is still in beta. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred > Reynolds > Sent: 18 June 2005 20:12 > To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? &g

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread François CAMPILL
steam update as long as VAC2 is still in beta. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: 18 June 2005 20:12 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? Wow, with all this

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Alfred Reynolds
Yes, HL1 servers can be running both VAC1 and VAC2 at the same time. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cream Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 2:21 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Clayton Macleod
valve says it's a cheat, so eat it. On 6/18/05, m0gely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He ran an app that increases the client's FPS by disabling a high > quality sky. What is the matter with you people? So he's scum for > that? That's a cheat? You answer questions that were never asked. He > on

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread m0gely
Dagok wrote: Admins that abuse their own server to cheat while claiming to provide a cheat free server are scum...plain and simple. Dagok He ran an app that increases the client's FPS by disabling a high quality sky. What is the matter with you people? So he's scum for that? That's a chea

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread DaiTengu
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:18:54 -0500, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The shield icon comes up for either VAC1 OR VAC2, your CS server must still be running VAC1. - Alfred Hmm, strange because I didn't see it come up for any of the VAC1 servers. Granted it's been a few days since I

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Cream
Alfred Reynolds wrote: The shield icon comes up for either VAC1 OR VAC2, your CS server must still be running VAC1. isnt the server required to be running in secure mode (VAC1) AND with -vacbeta to enable VAC2? if so, could servers be running both VAC1 and VAC2 atm? _

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Alfred Reynolds
: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:06:32 -0500, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once VAC2 goes out of beta there will be a server update that will > make your OP4 servers have the little shield . > I was running a CS server for a

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Dagok
ouski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? On 6/18/05, Eric (Deacon) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In a bold display of creativity, Dagok wrote: > Then cry on a forum that someone cares a

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread DaiTengu
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 14:06:32 -0500, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Once VAC2 goes out of beta there will be a server update that will make your OP4 servers have the little shield . I was running a CS server for a week or so with the -vacbeta line, I pulled the -vacbeta line out of

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Alfred Reynolds
to actively support them - do you have any > information on future support of OP4 servers? > > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:11 AM > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actuall

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Stan Bubrouski
em - do you have any > information on future support of OP4 servers? > > > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:11 AM > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & ba

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Alfred Reynolds
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? There aren't many real questions right now, we are too busy insulting each other :-) OK, I'll ask a real question. If I STATUS my OP4 server, I see: 11:51:57 hostname: Ooks Steaming Pile of 1001 Crap Maps version

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Ook
IL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? > Wow, with all this flaming I have a hard time finding the real questions > :) > > VAC2 should not be enforcing bans at this time, it looks like a greml

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Alfred Reynolds
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of m0gely Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:26 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? Eric (Deacon) wrote: > What the hell is wrong with you jackas

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Clayton Macleod
I know you I know all about you You see things that other people dont see that makes you nervous If your hands would stop shaking You'd wipe the cold sweat off your brow Its hard for you to think But you dont need to very much because the voices in your head usually tell you what to do you consider

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread m0gely
Eric (Deacon) wrote: What the hell is wrong with you jackasses? I was wondering the same thing. He just asked a simple question and gets all this crap back. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, ed

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Stan Bubrouski
I don't think it helps ANYTHING when some punk replies to every flame in a thread with another flame, doubling the stupidity and just asking for more... and I agree with a previous comment in the thread about swearing. Why do it here? And furthermore if these flames of flames aren't just a tool t

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Glenn Shannon
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael McKoy Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:11 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? Wow. Just wow. This list has become completely and utterly useless. When did all the childre

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Michael McKoy
Wow. Just wow. This list has become completely and utterly useless. When did all the children join? Its a simple question. He didn't ask to get unbanned, he freely admitted what he was doing, he doesn't care. "Is VAC2 actively banning or not?" ___ To

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Clayton Macleod
it ain't my fault no one likes you, Eric. On 6/18/05, Eric (Deacon) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, he did. It's a common mistake to make and a pretty poor basis for > a response. But since you're all about the correct spellings of > homonyms, why not send us a URL of the pic you took with WWW

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Roc
get ready to be reamed by the rulers of the list who don't see it your way! maybe they'll tell you to grow up as well LOL EqualHate wrote: ***wipes tears of laughter from eyes and replies*** o was the server running a third party anti-cheat on your server? if no, go to next, irrelevant beca

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Roc
wow big bad guy has spoken Eric (Deacon) wrote: In a bold display of creativity, Roc wrote: What on are is your problem? Why do you need confirmation? Is it so you can then remove the rest of the cheats on your PC? The confirmation is you being banned Mr. Green thumb! What the hell is wr

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Roc
grow up and get used to me not responding to what you wanna hear... not going anywhere LOL kama wrote: Chill down... He just wanted a statement what the beta are doing for checks. Nothing else. In the announcement from Valve (Alfred) they stated that they needed information on disconnects. The

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread EqualHate
***wipes tears of laughter from eyes and replies*** o was the server running a third party anti-cheat on your server? if no, go to next, irrelevant because Steam informed you of the ban. o Was server running vacbeta? your post says yes, go to next o are you running a cheat? your post says y

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread ironchef
Vapor wrote: > What on earth are you talking about? I'm asking for confirmation of > VAC2's > working status, I already know that steamid is banned and why. Guys, he's got a legitimate bloody question. Alfred had said just a couple days ago when requesting that we all join the vacbeta that it will

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Z Teknology G-Mail
Eric (Deacon) wrote: In a bold display of creativity, Dagok wrote: Then cry on a forum that someone cares about you being banned. Who's crying? This is the kind of stupid shit that makes me wonder what the fuck is going on in the server community these days. What the hell is wrong with yo

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread aXeR \(AmmoBOX\)
Guys, Can you not express yourself without the use of repeated foul language? This isn't the tone I expect to see on a mailing list! Regards, aXeR - Original Message - From: "Eric (Deacon)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 4:02 PM Subject:

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Stan Bubrouski
On 6/18/05, Eric (Deacon) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a bold display of creativity, Dagok wrote: > > Then cry on a forum that someone cares about you being banned. > > Who's crying? This is the kind of stupid shit that makes me wonder what > the fuck is going on in the server community these d

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Eric (Deacon)
In a bold display of creativity, Clayton Macleod wrote: mute? I think you meant to say moot. Yes, he did. It's a common mistake to make and a pretty poor basis for a response. But since you're all about the correct spellings of homonyms, why not send us a URL of the pic you took with WWW.ANSW

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Eric (Deacon)
In a bold display of creativity, Andrew Armstrong wrote: Dont run cheats? Thats a fix! What fix? Nobody asked for a "fix" which makes your reply sound really really stupid. And childish. And many other such things. -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Eric (Deacon)
In a bold display of creativity, Roc wrote: What on are is your problem? Why do you need confirmation? Is it so you can then remove the rest of the cheats on your PC? The confirmation is you being banned Mr. Green thumb! What the hell is wrong with you jackasses? The dude fired off a quick e

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Eric (Deacon)
In a bold display of creativity, Dagok wrote: Then cry on a forum that someone cares about you being banned. Who's crying? This is the kind of stupid shit that makes me wonder what the fuck is going on in the server community these days. What the hell is wrong with you? -- Eric (the Deacon r

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread kama
Chill down... He just wanted a statement what the beta are doing for checks. Nothing else. In the announcement from Valve (Alfred) they stated that they needed information on disconnects. There where no information about the cheat detection. I thinks his question is fair. Some of the hacks that

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Roc
What on are is your problem? Why do you need confirmation? Is it so you can then remove the rest of the cheats on your PC? The confirmation is you being banned Mr. Green thumb! Maybe, you should find the time away from gardening to read what Alfred had said then you would know already that you

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Vapor
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 05:45:53 -0400, Roc wrote > Alfred gave the warning to stop all cheats dude, you've been busted > so just give it up and stop looking for reasons other than the one > you forgot to pay attention to! > > Stop whining and looking for reasons other than the obvious! > > There is no

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Erling K. Sæterdal
ok Sent: 18 June 2005 10:30 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? What more important issues? Looks like VAC2 worked well to me. People don't care that you got caught for cheatingget it? Dagok - Original Message - From

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Killer Creation Services
_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? What more important issues? Looks like VAC2 worked well to me. People don't care that you got caught for cheatingget it? Dagok - Original Message - From: "Vapor" <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Roc
Alfred gave the warning to stop all cheats dude, you've been busted so just give it up and stop looking for reasons other than the one you forgot to pay attention to! Stop whining and looking for reasons other than the obvious! There is nothing more to discuss, you've been caught cheating, you w

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Roc
Alfred gave the warning to stop all cheats dude, you've been busted so just give it up and stop looking for reasons other than the one you forgot to pay attention to! Stop whining and looking for reasons other than the obvious! Vapor wrote: Guys, I care little about the bloody ban, and know ex

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Roc
Alfred gave the warning to stop all cheats dude, you've been busted so just give it up and stop looking for reasons other than the one you forgot to pay attention to! Stop whining and looking for reasons other than the obvious! Vapor wrote: I only play on my own CS:S servers which are running

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Dagok
What more important issues? Looks like VAC2 worked well to me. People don't care that you got caught for cheatingget it? Dagok - Original Message - From: "Vapor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VA

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Vapor
> Rightclick Steam in the tray>Settings > > Whats 'VAC Status' say? "Banned from some secure servers because of a cheating infraction". Now here's the interesting part, "Click for details" > up pops a window informing me my ban affects the following games: Counter-Strike: Source Half-Life 2: Dea

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Clayton Macleod
mute? I think you meant to say moot. On 6/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > home connections and ultimately poisoning the game itself. If all servers > were run on quality machines with quality bandwidth it would make all of > this talk of "tweaking" the server settings mute an

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread ray
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vapor Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 3:59 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? > I only play on my own CS:S servers which are running -vacbeta. CS:S > is the only steam game I have r

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Dagok
"testing purposes" then you should have set the server to sv_cheats 1 and turned off VAC2 beta. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Vapor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Andrew Armstrong
Rightclick Steam in the tray>Settings Whats 'VAC Status' say? - Original Message - From: "Vapor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? > Guys, I care little ab

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Glenn Shannon
Cool. Another Steam ID for my banlist :) r_3dsky 0 makes baby Jesus cry. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vapor Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 12:59 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Vapor
Guys, I care little about the bloody ban, and know exactly what the program I was using does, and have my reasons (rather than assumed stupidity) for using it. Move along please... flame someone who cares... I'm more interested in the fact VAC2 may well be actually operational. Brett ___

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Vapor
> I only play on my own CS:S servers which are running -vacbeta. CS:S > is the only steam game I have run in over 6 months. I do regularly > run a program which holds r_3dsky at 0 for testing purposes (which I > can send you on request), which I understand is most likely > classified as a cheat. Ot

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Andrew Armstrong
Dont run cheats? Thats a fix! If you wanted to have r_3dsky set to 0 on your server, set sv_cheats 1 on the server, then you can use the 3dsky variable. - Original Message - From: "Vapor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 5:35 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually de

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Kevin Ottalini
please refer to this thread at the Steam forums: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=282892 Anything and I mean ANYTHING that modifies steam or game executables will probably result in a ban. the "fix" that you are referring to for 3dsky patches the game executable and

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning?

2005-06-18 Thread Clayton Macleod
heh, doofus On 6/18/05, Vapor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alfred, I was still under the impression VAC2 was still in infrastructure test > phase? However, on restarting my local steam client this morning I was > informed via dialog of my new found VAC ban from CS:S and HL2DM. > > I only play on m