On Wed, 26 Oct 2011, E3pO wrote:
> I personally think they need to make a bug zilla type thing that people can
> commit bugs to and then have a dev blog that people can rss to check for
> upcoming updates or questions. Then people can comment to the blog post.
> Keep the existing mailing list bu
I personally think they need to make a bug zilla type thing that people can
commit bugs to and then have a dev blog that people can rss to check for
upcoming updates or questions. Then people can comment to the blog post.
Keep the existing mailing list but also run a forum powered by the mailing
li
I am going to drag this thread on a little more.
There have been quite a few replies regarding two subjects:
1.) The opinion that the list/forum should be locked down somehow, based
on a valid steam ID, or a server ID, etc.
2.) That the communications on the list should be limited to "serv
That's probably true, but I don't think a system should be setup to
cater to the minority.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Asher Baker wrote:
> There are a few (probably very few, but we exist) people that "need"
> to monitor the list, and are perfectly capable of posting relevant
> replies, tha
There are a few (probably very few, but we exist) people that "need"
to monitor the list, and are perfectly capable of posting relevant
replies, that don't run servers.
The current system is fine, people that are being acidic to the
quality of the list just need to be removed.
On Tue, Oct 25, 201
Unless they do something like requiring a server token ID when signing
up for the list, there's no possible way for them to enforce this. It
would be great if they did/could, but it would never happen.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Rob Liu wrote:
> I have another suggestion. Maybe limit the m
I'm casting my vote for the Mailing Group. It's nice to be able to check my
phone for a new message and see if I have to hit my emergency UPDATE SERVER
button. Forums that email me could do about the same thing, but there isn't
anything wrong with the current mailing list as it stands right now.
A
I have another suggestion. Maybe limit the mailing list to server operators
only?
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:46 AM, kama wrote:
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> On Tue, 25 Oct 2011, Michael wrote:
>
> > There actually is a [hlds_announce] list for just that propose but its
> > fallen out of use I don't believe I've seen a
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011, Michael wrote:
> There actually is a [hlds_announce] list for just that propose but its
> fallen out of use I don't believe I've seen anything sent on it in over a
> month now.
Last message was only a couple of days ago.
Oct 21 Tony Paloma [hlds_announce] Team Fortress 2 U
There actually is a [hlds_announce] list for just that propose but its
fallen out of use I don't believe I've seen anything sent on it in over a
month now.
~Michael
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I'm not reading through all the responses, since it would be better served on a
forum.
I am a member on this list to receive the announcement of updates (or as of
lately, the pre-announcements, the update of "you must have your server
registered").
If this list is to be preserved, I would like
A Google Group might be good because it can be used as mailman serv with a
nice visual frontend and archive. People who like this current format could
keep using it or people who are for forums could opt out of email updates
and just browse through the frontend. Everything would be much easier to
f
So... I'm for having a forum.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:59 AM, James Puckett <
jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Forum = moderation.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Kigen wrote:
>
>> I think I can fix our forum vs email problem with both sides being happy.
>> :D
>>
>> Just got a cod
Forum = moderation.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Kigen wrote:
> I think I can fix our forum vs email problem with both sides being happy.
> :D
>
> Just got a coding idea. We'll see where it goes.
>
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Eric Riemers wrote:
> >
> > I prefer the mailinglist, ton
I think I can fix our forum vs email problem with both sides being happy. :D
Just got a coding idea. We'll see where it goes.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Eric Riemers wrote:
>
> I prefer the mailinglist, tons of reasons why i would want that more then a
> forum (ease of use being one of th
I prefer the mailinglist, tons of reasons why i would want that more then a
forum (ease of use being one of them)
But if we *have* to move to the forums, at least make it so that we have
our own section only for server maintainers, say for instance only people
with a registered server with good s
It would probably be somewhat difficult, but would a hybrid approach be
possible? For example, make a subforum on the steam forums which
mirrors all emails sent to this list, and pushes all posts made by
logged-in forum users back to this list? It would make this list
searchable, people could
Fletch
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> > hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
> > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:03 PM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server
oftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:03 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
>
> I prefer mailing list. Just because it's easy to use while reading
> regular e-mail and you can just
ilto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:03 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
I prefer mailing list. Just because it's easy to use while reading
regular e-mail and
I prefer mailing list. Just because it's easy to use while reading
regular e-mail and you can just pick a message to read easily, delete
immediately the rest that you don't need. On forum, you have to browse
around on many threads and it's very time consuming. I also hate the
SPUF style where y
Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:29 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
What about adding some kind of easy searching to the mailing list
archives? That seems to be only commonly brought up minus to keeping
this format.
I am
What about adding some kind of easy searching to the mailing list
archives? That seems to be only commonly brought up minus to keeping
this format.
I am able to access them (the archives) with my login, but the
standard listings by month and downloadable gzip'ed archives makes
searching nontrivial
I too would prefer to keep the mailing list. If a forum materializes out of
this conversation, I would be interested in becoming a moderator. I'm
already super active in the Steam Forums and you guys may or may not have
noticed that I update the Steam Forums server sections almost everyday.
On Mon
It's not a "pros versus newbs" thing, it's exactly what you said - the
list isn't for a social experience. If someone wants to bitch about
how quickplay is ruining their server or about how hats have ruined
the game, then do it somewhere else. I continue to use the phrase
"relevant to server admini
I prefer mailing lists, which is why I am here. Discussion and replies
are below:
I prefer mailing lists because there is a small technical barrier to
entry. Chances are that you had to use a search engine to find it,
which means you probably already tried to find what you were looking for
Before responding, I'd first like to point out to people that are looking
for JUST announcements about updates that such a list exists. In fact, there
are 3 seperate srcds related mailing lists. All of Valve's mailing lists can
be found here;
http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/
I much
on AT&T
-Original message-
From: David Parker
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Sent: Tue, Oct 25, 2011 02:55:49 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
Hello,
The last time this was brought up, it was met with an overwhelming response in
favo
i like the mailing list my self, but as an alternative i'd say something
like what byteframe was talking about with the google groups.
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Andrew wrote:
> I'll throw in a vote for the mailing list format as well. Half for the
> instant notifications and easy readin
Hello,
The last time this was brought up, it was met with an overwhelming response in
favor of keeping the mailing list. This time around, the majority of responses
seem to be from people who really want to keep this a mailing list, and those
who would be willing to try a forum but would sti
I'll throw in a vote for the mailing list format as well. Half for the
instant notifications and easy reading, and half admittedly because
I'm a bit old-fashioned.
The google groups style option, however, might be a great compromise.
--
Andrew (Wave Admin)
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I still prefer email list, Fletch. I prioritize email from valve employees
first, but have found some utility in general posting from others. The
farther away from server maintenance and updates the discussion get, the
less interest I have (recent discussion on classes, etc).
Honestly, I think we'
onday, October 24, 2011 18:39
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
Going off what Jeff Sugar just said in the thread that started this,
and reiterating what I said earlier - the main reason the list fails
(and moving SPUF would only make it wors
gt; -Original Message-
>>> From:
>>> hlds_linux-bounces@list.**valvesoftware.com[mailto:
>>> hlds_linux-bounces@**list.valvesoftware.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Ronny Schedel
>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 5:41 PM
>>> To: Half-Life dedic
entry in topic blabla, click this
> link to read it".
>
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- From: Fletcher Dunn
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:42 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list ;
> h...@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linu
bounces@list.**valvesoftware.com[mailto:
>> hlds_linux-bounces@**list.valvesoftware.com]
>> On Behalf Of Ronny Schedel
>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 5:41 PM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
>>
>&g
esday, October 25, 2011 8:42 AM
>
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list ;
> h...@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
>
> What if you got an email when there was a new post? (That's what I meant
> by "push notif
I really prefer this list. I subscribe to multiple list and it allows
me to get my news in one place, my mail client. I have multiple
folders and filter to manage everything neatly. (I use claws-mail)
There is no way I could keep up with all the lists I'm subscribed to
if they were all in a
Behalf Of Ronny Schedel
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 5:41 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
Never ever change this to a forum. I prefer to have one place to check
important things, so I have added several mailing lists. Otherwise I had
Life dedicated Linux server mailing list ;
h...@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
What if you got an email when there was a new post? (That's what I meant by
"push notification".)
-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valveso
I'd like to have a forum just for the sake of proper archives & search
functions.
People who want only emails, they can subscribe to all the boards and get
notified upon replies/topics - and those who don't... well, they just read
the forums.
- Original Message -
From: "Fletcher Du
Yes, but problems like "When is Valve going to do something about fake
clients stealing gamer names/images in the name of padding server stats?"
goes completely ignored in the forums. At least we know when it goes to the
list you guys have actually read it.
Speaking of which, why is the Halloween
dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
>
> Never ever change this to a forum. I prefer to have one place to check
> important things, so I have added several mailing lists. Otherwise I had to
> check every forum on the planet to get the in
2011 5:41 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
Never ever change this to a forum. I prefer to have one place to check
important things, so I have added several mailing lists. Otherwise I had to
check every forum on the planet to get t
Never ever change this to a forum. I prefer to have one place to check
important things, so I have added several mailing lists. Otherwise I had to
check every forum on the planet to get the informations, that's back to
stone age.
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
From: Fletcher Dunn
Sent: T
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