RE: [Hornlist] Franz Duets

2003-10-03 Thread Hans Pizka
BTW, I have published the Oscar Franz Konzertstueck for two horns & piano. Also the four concert pieces for horn & piano by Carl Matys & a lot of horn/piano pieces by Carl Daniel Lorenz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Hornlist] Hello from the Gulf South

2003-10-03 Thread Stephen F. Pearce
For the other aviators in the bunch: remember "Neodd Sweven"?.and of course: Suck,Squeeze,Slam and Blow. Now before anyone comes completely unglued, those are the four strokes of an internal combustion engine (Intake, Compression, Ignition, Exhaust). This weekend was a great time for the gang

RE: [Hornlist] NHR - World Clock

2003-10-03 Thread Francois Lefebvre
In french stalactite tombe et stalacmite monte c'est facile it's easy ! François From: Herbert Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Horn List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: The Horn List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [Hornlist] NHR - World Clock Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:30:09 -0700 (PDT) I learne

Re: [Hornlist] Franz Duets

2003-10-03 Thread Rick Nadeau
Milton, You can find this publication at Robert King Music http://www.rkingmusic.com/ Stock #5304 or at Southern Music Company http://www.smcpublications.com/catalog/music/instrumental/brass/ french_horn.htm Stock # B136 Rick Hi All, Anyone know where I might find Book 1 Horn 1 & 2 o

Re: [Hornlist] Franz Duets

2003-10-03 Thread Russ Smiley
Or here http://www.smcpublications.com/catalog/music/instrumental/brass/french_horn. htm - Original Message - From: "milton kicklighter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Horn List 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "horn list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 10:08 PM Subject: [Hornlist

Re: [Hornlist] Franz Duets

2003-10-03 Thread Russ Smiley
They this http://www.hickeys.com/cgi/display.cgi?cart_id=&page=hnduet.htm - Original Message - From: "milton kicklighter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Horn List 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "horn list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 10:08 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Franz Duets

[Hornlist] Franz Duets

2003-10-03 Thread milton kicklighter
Hi All, Anyone know where I might find Book 1 Horn 1 & 2 of the Oscar Franz 100 Duets for Horn?? I have tried Robert King, and it is not in the catalog. Thanks Milton Milton Kicklighter 4th Horn Buffalo Phil ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your optio

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horn repair??

2003-10-03 Thread Robert Losin
At 20:34 03-10-03, you wrote: Wasn't he an apprentice of Meister Knopf? I think that Carl Geyer worked, and apprenticed with Schmidt, then went to work at Wunderlich, before going off on his own. I'm sure one of our more learned colleagues will correct me if I'm in error. As to the

Re: [Hornlist] Horn wraps

2003-10-03 Thread Jjhosshorn
No offense meant of implied- I got my info. from a web page dedicated to carl geyer, Thanks, Hoss ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

[Hornlist] Merker for Sale

2003-10-03 Thread Russ Smiley
In the event you know someone looking for this model, I've posted my Holton Merker H276M for sale at www.hornsociety.org. Russ Smiley Marlborough, CT ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%4

[Hornlist] Horn wraps

2003-10-03 Thread BrassArtsUnlim
In a message dated 10/3/2003 8:34:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > history says that geyer perfected the Knopf wrap so actually the Geyer wrap > is very similar but a hybrid of the Knopf horn. A Knopf wrap is a Knopf wrap and a Geyer wrap is a Geyer wrap. What's the

Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha 668 Series II

2003-10-03 Thread GWI account
Although I can't help but wonder why Scott didn't call the other places himself... Osmun's told me back in late August that they wouldn't have any of the 668 Mark IIs until November or so. Matt Pollack Topsham, ME > Original Message > From: Scott Pappal <[EMAIL PROTECTED

[Hornlist] Yamaha 668 Series II

2003-10-03 Thread Scott Pappal
List: Does anyone know of any larger music stores which would have a new Yamaha 668 Series II, Nickel/Detachable Bell horn in stock? It seems that Yamaha won't be sending any more of these horns over from Japan until late November due to some production snaffu. I've tried Chuck Levin's and Baltimo

Re: [Hornlist] Reynolds Horn

2003-10-03 Thread Jjhosshorn
Everybody is asking me why I have the Reynolds priced so high, I think I have clarified all of the customization done and just remember once upon a time an Elkhart 8d only cost 400$ as well. What makes 8d's "worth gold" while the Chambers horn clearly plays better? Because they are still poorl

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horn repair??

2003-10-03 Thread Jjhosshorn
history says that geyer perfected the Knopf wrap so actually the Geyer wrap is very similar but a hybrid of the Knopf horn. Carl Geyer brought the style to america. Wasn't he an apprentice of Meister Knopf? Hoss ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your o

Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha horns

2003-10-03 Thread Jjhosshorn
I agree- with robob. I think it is very possible to be more versatile on a geyer yellowbrass small belled horn. All you have to do is blow to be big- I'm actually trying to prove this to my horn teacher who has been an 8d lawson player for years. When it comes to bigness on a horn you either

Re: [Hornlist] Horn repair??

2003-10-03 Thread Sonjahornteacher
Alex, For a list of national repair schools, log on to www.napbirt.org This is the official website of the National Association of Professional Band Instrument Repair Technicians. They can help you find different colleges and tech school that offer training in all band and orchestra repair. Good

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horn repair??

2003-10-03 Thread jdelarosa
Dear Paul: Great story! I had no idea that you were that close to Mr. Geyer. I want to hear a lot of Geyer stories when next we visit. Was the "Geyer wrap" his invention or did he just perfect it? Julio de la Rosa - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> S

[Hornlist] Petomania

2003-10-03 Thread HornCabbage
Lawrence Y wondered A few years ago someone on this list posted a photograph of Joseph Pujol, "Le Petomane" which showed in the bottom right hand corner a couple of horn players. If you are reading this, could you email another copy of the photo to me - I lost it in an un-backed-up computer cr

[Hornlist] Horn prices

2003-10-03 Thread Robert Marlatt
Hans knows best from first-hand experience. I have heard that even Yamaha instruments sell at list price in Japan. It seems to be a seller's market. I was in a Yamaha store in Bangkok. Strictly a band instrument dealer, the only horn they had on hand was a YHR167 which looked to me the same as

Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha horns

2003-10-03 Thread Robert Marlatt
from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a strong advocate of having at least two horns to play on. A Chambers in decent condition can be gotten for $500-600. Reynolds valves were so well manufactured that a 30 year old horn shouldn't need more than the rotors fitted. It will take care of all your big horn

Re: [Hornlist] NHR Acronyms

2003-10-03 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 03/10/2003 20:39:39 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Surely if a trombonist has to be taught an acronym for assembly of said > trombone, there is little point in him carrying on if he can't even put it > together. Surely the inability to put the instrument toget

Re: [Hornlist] NHR Acronyms

2003-10-03 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
As a 6 year old I was taught "Eat Good Bread Dear Father" with the corresponding: "Good Bread Dear Father Ate!" Memorable though this is, as evidenced by my recall of it over 40 years later, I still have found nothing to match the certain memorability of "Every Good Blonde". As for the "Fath

[Hornlist] NHR Acronyms

2003-10-03 Thread corenfa
Hi, Surely if a trombonist has to be taught an acronym for assembly of said trombone, there is little point in him carrying on if he can't even put it together. (Are these slide-guys the Viola Dept. of the brass world?) Port is Left as it has the same number of letters as 'Left'. Port is Red as

Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha horns

2003-10-03 Thread Jjhosshorn
Note to list, the horn I have for sale is one of the first Cleveland chambers model horn, Thanks again, Hoss ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horn repair??

2003-10-03 Thread Jjhosshorn
horn playing is nothing more than basic metalergy. Study how general manufacturing is done. Study soldering techniques- ask a local repair person or have work done on your horn and ask if you can watch. Moving a leadpipe is very popular! Once you see firsthand how its done it's really not th

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horn repair??

2003-10-03 Thread CORNO911
Dear Alex, You could always try what I did. When I first moved to Chicago, I had learned a lot about soldering and dent work on my own-but I really wanted to apprentice with someone who could teach me how to build horns. I went to Carl Geyer's shop every day for about 2 weeks and watched him wo

Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha horns

2003-10-03 Thread Billbamberg
In a message dated 10/3/2003 6:46:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I agree with most of what you have posted. However, you need to check > throat > and bell diameter on Contempora horns made in Abilene, I think that you will > find some differences. I agree with you that

[Hornlist] Re: Horn repair??

2003-10-03 Thread Alex Mastrando
First, Thank you to Fred, Prof Pizka and Hoss for your insight and assistance. I wish I could just pick up and go to Germany to study hornmaking. I do have a friend who lives in Mannheim, so I'd have a place to stay... but I'm established here as a hornist in the New York area and you know how

RE: [Hornlist] Horn repair??

2003-10-03 Thread Amy Jo McBeth
At 12:51 PM 10/3/2003 -0400, you wrote: Trust me I've tried, nobody here in the states has the gull to take a chance anymore. ___ Or the..."Alabatross!"... a. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your option

RE: [Hornlist] NHR - World Clock

2003-10-03 Thread David Goldberg
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Herbert Foster wrote: > I learned: staLACTite; lact is milk; cows give milk; consider the udder. Rewarding as I'm sure it is to consider the udder, I remember stalactite from stalagmite by the T and the G. T=TOP, G=GROUND. Of course, it is enough to remember only one of thes

[Hornlist] HORNS BY NARCISSISM

2003-10-03 Thread jdelarosa
Hoss: I know a few people that would like to throw things at custom horn makers. Julio de la Rosa - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 11:51 AM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Horn repair?? > Throw your feet at a

RE: [Hornlist] NHR - World Clock

2003-10-03 Thread David Goldberg
Closely unrelated to the search for ways to remember stalactite from stalagmite, but equally NHR and much fun is this website: http://www.acronymfinder.com/ Type in any acronym, any sequence of initials, and this website will return all of the referents of which it is aware. The reverse lookup p

RE: [Hornlist] Horn repair??

2003-10-03 Thread Jjhosshorn
Throw your feet at a custom makerTrust me I've tried, nobody here in the states has the gull to take a chance anymore. My advice would be this, go to brass tech school and by a 17$ plumbers torch. Start small with converting single f horns into hand horns then as you improve do more things

Re: [Hornlist] NHR - World Clock

2003-10-03 Thread Herbert Foster
If you're getting nautical, Red Right Return. That's the side you keep the buoys to when returning to harbor. Herb Foster --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > There is some RED PORT LEFT in the bottle > > Trombone players - the right hand is the right hand for the slide > > All the best, > > Lawr

RE: [Hornlist] NHR - World Clock

2003-10-03 Thread Herbert Foster
I learned: staLACTite; lact is milk; cows give milk; consider the udder. Herb Foster --- Carlberg Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Spring Ahead, Fall Back! > > Righty Tighty, Lefty Loosy! > > Stlactites Hold on Tight, Stalagmites Grow up with all Their Might! > > Any others? > > Carlberg Jon

RE: [Hornlist] Horn repair??

2003-10-03 Thread Fred Baucom
As I recall from seeing certificates at the local shop where I get minor repairs and maintenance done, there is a basic training program and more specific advanced courses in which those in the business can enroll. Of course, this is for 'generalized' training, meaning for all instruments, not jus

RE: [Hornlist] Horn repair??

2003-10-03 Thread Hans Pizka
Find a maker (manufacturer) in Germany & learn the craft during 3 1/2 years of apprenticeship. Whast you will receive from your master = just few hundred $$ for living. Be sure, it will not be enough, but you will really learn the craft from polishing over bell making, valve drilling, making small

[Hornlist] Re:

2003-10-03 Thread MUMFORDHornworks
In a message dated 10/3/03 10:01:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hans Pizka writes: > A lot of MASOCHISTS out there ? Masochist to Sadist: "hurt me hurt me!" Sadist: "no" -Steve Mumford ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music

[Hornlist] Re: Reynolds horns

2003-10-03 Thread MUMFORDHornworks
In a message dated 10/3/03 10:01:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Mark writes: > MacMillan\Conn purchased the Abilene facility in the late > 60's. I am always amazed that Reynolds managed to keep good > quality control despite fluctuating management and ownership while Conn > could not. > I ima

[Hornlist] Horn repair??

2003-10-03 Thread Alex Mastrando
Hello all, Where can I get information on how to become a horn repairman? I would love to learn how to do major work on horns as well as eventually learn to build them. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks Alex Mastrando New Milford, NJ USA ___ post: [EMAIL

Re: [Hornlist] Request

2003-10-03 Thread Walter Lewis
Hey Hoss, Would that be a mobile home small enough to haul with the Shittvette? My tongue is firmly planted in my cheek... Have a good one... Walt Lewis... At 05:46 PM 10/1/03 -0400, you wrote: I could buy a house a horn and a car for nine grand...althought it would be a shitty house

Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha horns

2003-10-03 Thread Walter Lewis
Thank you Gentlemen for the primer on Reynolds horns. I know they are a fine horn, I forgot to mention in my post yesterday that one of my colleagues (who is over 85 years young and plays quite well for his age) in the community Band (www.warrenconcertband.org) plays on a Chambers. He produces

RE: [Hornlist] Request

2003-10-03 Thread Hans Pizka
Every horn is hand made, but using special tools & machinery too. Some parts are produced by specialists in larger series to provide the makers (valve slides, machinery, uni-bal, finger plates, springs, horse shoe, screws, etc.). But these parts are also made by hand, but using special tools & mach

Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha horns

2003-10-03 Thread Mark Louttit
Bill, I agree with most of what you have posted. However, you need to check throat and bell diameter on Contempora horns made in Abilene, I think that you will find some differences. I agree with you that bell weight changed when they moved from Cleveland. I don't know what part of the country y

RE: [Hornlist] Request

2003-10-03 Thread c y
is 9000 really that much for an instrument with a huge waiting list and the fact that rauch will soon stop taking orders (he may retire)... Dealers in japan sell handmade horns and they mark them up 10-20 percent to make some type of profit... This person sold that horn actually for a lossI w

[Hornlist] re: Email List

2003-10-03 Thread Donna Moran
I have enjoyed being on the email list and learned alot; however, at this time I need to be taken off...how can I do that? Sincerely, Donna ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Performance excitement

2003-10-03 Thread Hans Pizka
A lot of MASOCHISTS out there ? == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 6:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Performance

RE: [Hornlist] Request

2003-10-03 Thread Hans Pizka
You are right, absolutely, but there are different prices in Japan, if one buys the horn at the Japanese dealer. Reason: price has to pay for promotion, entertaining customers, import duty, compensating the up & down of the exchange rate, shipment, etc. Like my horns: they cost 9.300 EURO instead

RE: [Hornlist] Request

2003-10-03 Thread Daniel Canarutto
At 12:00 -0500 2-10-2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from: (Hans Pizka) >As far as I remember, this person offered a horn (Rauch) which he bought in Japan at Japanese price, asking for a minimum of 9.000.-$ $9K! Rauch: rhymes with OUCH! As far as I know, new Rauch horns cost much less than that; b