[Hornlist] Oooops

2004-03-31 Thread Hans Pizka
To Benno Heinemann: A horn teacher, persuading a student to adopt the Bb-horn after conquering a C-major scale on the F-Horn, is not a responsible teacher for horn. As you said, the F-Horn is a great help to develop a good tone quality & to develop a fine brass player technique (like in sports: tr

RE: [Hornlist] F or Bb single??

2004-03-31 Thread Hans Pizka
An Benno Heinemann: Also, ein Hornlehrer, der seinen Schüler schon nach Beherrschen der C-Dur Tonleiter auf auf dem F-Horn zum B-Horn verführt, ist kein verantwortungsvoller Lehrer. Wie Sie gut sagen, ist jetzt das F-Horn eine große Hilfe zu guter Tonqualität und zur Entwicklung der Bläsertechnik

RE: [Hornlist] English Phonetics for Latin 'Pacem'NHR

2004-03-31 Thread Hans Pizka
And in Ben Hur the Romans spoke English, while the Jews spoke American English, quite a clever distinction. They did similar in a English language Ring production in Saddler Wells Opera in London some thirty or fourty years ago using singers of Welsh (Walis) decent for the gods, American singers f

RE: [Hornlist] Horn section for hire?

2004-03-31 Thread Hans Pizka
Reminds me of the BBC announcement: .Adagio & Allegro op.70 for value horn & piano by Robert Schumann ... Off course, if you don’t use a valve horn for this piece, you should have a value horn at least, but it would not help much.

[Hornlist] Dental Work

2004-03-31 Thread J. Kosta
I think the first step should be to spend a little internet-time to research what a palate expander is supposed to 'fix', and what is the risk if it is not done. It might that this procedure is much more effective if done when the patient is young, rather that waiting for a problem to occur later

Re: [Hornlist] English Phonetics for Latin 'Pacem'NHR

2004-03-31 Thread Chris Tedesco
Actually if any one watched the new Mel Gibson flick, one may notice the Romans spoke using Italianized/church Latin. Surprising considering his emphasis on historical accuracy. Chris --- Chris Tedesco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't beleive that it's necessarily taught that because it was

Re: [Hornlist] English Phonetics for Latin 'Pacem'

2004-03-31 Thread Chris Tedesco
I don't beleive that it's necessarily taught that because it was an English way of doing it, I think it was more of the difference between classical and ecclesiastical pronunciations. Chris --- James Symington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's no debate about how a Roman would have pronou

RE: [Hornlist] English Phonetics for Latin 'Pacem'

2004-03-31 Thread Hans Pizka
And: "keh-teh-room kane-sae-oh Khahr-tuh-gee-name ehs-seh dae-lane-dum ! Kae-sahr ! Cut-tea-lee-nah" - "Koh-daxe khee-fee-lees" - "kane-too-ree-oh" There is still the division between the "C" as "kh" or as "c" schools of Latin. Sorry, we have no audible records, except perhaps "catalan" or "cast

RE: [Hornlist] Re: F or Bb single??

2004-03-31 Thread Hans Pizka
Hello Ron, that´s the difference with e.g. Germany, Austria & other European countries. This kind of frustration cannot happen here, as the teachers here are not just so-so trained, quasi "en-passant". And for our school orchestras or even bands, playing music comes before marching activities.

RE: [Hornlist] Phonetics

2004-03-31 Thread Hans Pizka
Perfect answer, perfect. == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] Phonetics Jim T wondered We're singing Haydn's

RE: [Hornlist] English Phonetics for Latin 'Pacem'

2004-03-31 Thread Hans Pizka
German Latin is different: "Dona nobis pacem" would be "doh-nah noh-bis pah-tsame", in Italianisated Latin: " doh-nah noh-bis pah-tshame", with the last syllable quite short. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herbert Foster Sent: Wednesday, M

Re: [Hornlist] Horn section for hire?

2004-03-31 Thread Fred Baucom
PDQ Bach would be proud! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday I will be playing the Mozart Wind Serenades in Preston. The programme has been printed by someone from the venue and lists the instruments: 2 oboes; 2 clarinets; 2 bassoons and 2 hors. Should be an interesting gig! All the best, La

[Hornlist] Palate Expander

2004-03-31 Thread Dr. Martin W. Layman
Regarding the palate expander issue, I do orthodontics in addition to being a hornist, and put palatal expanders in my patients regularly. Unless the palatal expander is removable, I can definitely say that it is going to affect the ability to tongue and make attacks, although I have had instrum

[Hornlist] Horn section for hire?

2004-03-31 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
On Friday I will be playing the Mozart Wind Serenades in Preston. The programme has been printed by someone from the venue and lists the instruments: 2 oboes; 2 clarinets; 2 bassoons and 2 hors. Should be an interesting gig! All the best, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg" http://la

Re: [Hornlist] F or Bb single??

2004-03-31 Thread Benno Heinemann
Joe Duke wrote: I do not concur with the views of the seller that a single Bb instrument wo= uld be more difficult for a beginner to use, and learn on, than would be an= F single. Certainly it would be easier to learn on a B-horn than on an F-Horn, but I am certain that the F-Horn is far bette

[Hornlist] RE: F****h vibrato

2004-03-31 Thread HornCabbage
Laurent wrote The only earth double salt that I take cerously is with tequila. Isn't CMN a liberal mouthpiece? sorry..I was thinking about CNN. * CMN, CNN, it doesn't matter, Larry, I won't use any mouthpiece, no matter how liberal, if it doesn't fit my horn's lead

[Hornlist] Speaking of church music

2004-03-31 Thread David Goldberg
as we were a few weeks ago - I recently stumbled upon Russian Orthodox Choral music. If you know the genre, you know that a lot of it is constructed of very lush, slowly morphing thick chords sung by large choirs that can produce a euphoric feeling not unlike floating in molasses or getting attac

[Hornlist] Phonetics

2004-03-31 Thread HornCabbage
Jim T wondered We're singing Haydn's 3rd Mass and since there are no horn parts I get to sing. But a question has come up regarding the pronounciation of a word often repeated in the piece. If it's the same as Italian which in this case I thought it was, the Latin word 'pacem' is pronounced usin

[Hornlist] Re: F or Bb single??

2004-03-31 Thread Ron Boerger
> from: "Joe Duke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > The 'comments' made in a description of an instrument which is offered for > sale is surely subjective. > > I do not concur with the views of the seller that a single Bb instrument > would be more difficult for a beginner to use, and learn on, than wou

[Hornlist] English Phonetics for Latin 'Pacem'

2004-03-31 Thread James Symington
There's no debate about how a Roman would have pronounced it: pah-chem althought that is not the way I was taught it at school. If there was an excruciatingly English way of doing it, that was the road that was taken - pah kem in this instance. Ciao James ___

Re: [Hornlist] English Phonetics for Latin 'Pacem'

2004-03-31 Thread Herbert Foster
The correct answer is: whatever the choral director says. This is so the choral sound is unified. Otherwise you get mushy vowels. Remember, there are several ways to pronounce Latin. Your Latin teacher may use classical Latin: pahkem. Church Latin is Italianate: PAH-chame. German Latin (Haydn DID s

Re: [Hornlist] English Phonetics for Latin 'Pacem'

2004-03-31 Thread Carl Bangs
'pah-chem' is correct. "a" and "e" are always a short vowels in Latin. Carl Bangs Jim Thompson wrote: We're singing Haydn's 3rd Mass and since there are no horn parts I get to sing. But a question has come up regarding the pronounciation of a word often repeated in the piece. If it's the same as