Re: [Hornlist] Lip size

2003-10-19 Thread Clayton
Clayton Whetmore, here: Ben Kiel wrote: Dang, this discussion the past few days has been really depressing. it seems that if you aren't the perfect "mold" for horn playing, or have really big lips even, you will probably be relegated to second rate orchestras for the rest of your life, no matte

Re: [Hornlist] Lip size

2003-10-17 Thread Paul Mansur
I think you're putting the worst twist on some of the things written. The last time I looked, there are tall, thin horn players and short, fat horn players in professional orchestras and all sizes in between. Some have thin lips and some have rather thick lips. I look at the embouchures in P

Re: [Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-17 Thread Billbamberg
In a message dated 10/17/2003 9:20:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > All of my teachers have had the > same dedication I have therefor I AM GOING TO MAKE IT as a professional > hornist. > > Hoss > I'm glad to see your outstanding effort to temper your more inflammato

[Hornlist] Lip size

2003-10-17 Thread Ben Kiel
Dang, this discussion the past few days has been really depressing. Here I was, taught incorrectly for 6 years, having braces three times, and having really big lips, I got a new teacher this summer for lessons, and I decided to try and turn myself around. I completely started over, new embrochu

RE: [Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-17 Thread Hans Pizka
Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Lip Size I'm sure there are lots of horn students out there less than perfect that do just fine. Remember

Re: [Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-17 Thread Jjhosshorn
I'm sure there are lots of horn students out there less than perfect that do just fine. Remember that the human body is addaptive to it's environment and will adjust to any situations it comes across. To be a good teacher one must encourage and drive one's student. If you do not do this one h

RE: [Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-16 Thread Hans Pizka
] On Behalf Of Charles Valenza Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:39 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Lip Size I agree with most of the comments in this thread, including those of Hans Pizka, Dave Weiner, and G. Napuda when he says "A given is that crooked teeth & such will imp

Re: [Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-16 Thread Charles Valenza
I agree with most of the comments in this thread, including those of Hans Pizka, Dave Weiner, and G. Napuda when he says "A given is that crooked teeth & such will impact all brass players in some negative fashion". Unfortunately, many youngsters, at least in this country, are steered to the horn

Re: [Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-16 Thread Billbamberg
In a message dated 10/15/2003 7:42:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > In a message dated 10/15/2003 9:58:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >Who writes this stuff with such seeming > >authority when they are totally wrong? > Well, at leas

Re: [Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-16 Thread BrassArtsUnlim
In a message dated 10/16/2003 2:26:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Exactly, exactly, that´s what I tried to express in my previous letter. > A responsible teacher does not stick on a great number of students, but > sticks with the (even fewer) students to guide them in a

RE: [Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-15 Thread Hans Pizka
inal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Kosta Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] Lip Size I enjoyed reading Hans Pizka's recent post about 'Lip Size' (and other physical attributes associated with

Re: [Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-15 Thread Josh Cheuvront
You know, it has been my experience that a thick skull usually ends up being the deciding factor as to whether or not someone is suited for playing Horn. Its also good to have a thick skin for those "off" days. Josh ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your o

Re: [Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-15 Thread Scheimy
In a message dated 10/15/2003 9:58:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Who writes this stuff with such seeming > authority when they are totally wrong? > You know, you ask a very intriguing question, especially to a person with rather thick (actually, very thick) lips.

[Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-15 Thread J. Kosta
I enjoyed reading Hans Pizka's recent post about 'Lip Size' (and other physical attributes associated with horn playing) - Hans' views were very calm and reasoned, and learned thru a lifetime of professional experience. Of course there is the occasional 'exception' (horn player) who does very wel

RE: [Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-15 Thread Hans Pizka
MAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Valenza Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:55 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Lip Size OK, how about a discussion of teeth and mouth configuration as a deterrent to succesful horn playing, e.g. overbite, underbite, crooked

Re: [Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-15 Thread Paul Mansur
Please excuse this note to the list. I'd like to have Barry Benjamin's email address, please, if anyone has it. Thanks, much. Paul Mansur ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.o

Re: [Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-15 Thread Chris Tedesco
A couple years back, the President's Own sent a brass quintet on tour and they played at my university. Their horn player had immense lips, and a mouthpiece to match, but played exceedingly well in all registered. Chris --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 10/13/2003 9:45:31 PM Easte

Re: [Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-15 Thread Charles Valenza
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Lip Size For the last time, can we puh-lease put this old wive's tale to rest? Large, fleshy lips do not exclude you from playing horn or trumpet or any other "small" cup mouthpiece instrument. This is a total and utter myth. Physical size sometimes doe

Re: [Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-15 Thread BrassArtsUnlim
In a message dated 10/13/2003 9:45:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > 1. Recruit for success. > > > > > Also take into account physical factors that can ultimately lead > > to either success or frustration. Are the person’s lips small enough to > deal > > with the relat

[Hornlist] Lip Size

2003-10-13 Thread MichaelK216897
Hello all, I read the article that Mr. David Goldberg suggeted, and one of the things it said about recruiting horns (for succesful players or playing) was looking at the physical factors of the players. I will paste what it said: > 1. Recruit for success. > > > Also take