RE: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-07 Thread Hans Pizka
Yes, Rosetti no.5 is some challenge, as it is in E. Using a lot of F-side might help much, as all arpeggios go on 2, and the valve 2 is the most engaged there. Using the Bb-side (2nd valve switches it to A-horn) for some top notes or when fingering might be easier even in the low range, a great

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-07 Thread Valkhorn
In a message dated 12/7/2003 5:30:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Josef Meinlschmidt Ah... I wonder is it possible to order a set of 4 carbon fiber and 4 titanium valves from him for a Schmid? I'd love to have the money to try the differences out... -William

RE: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-07 Thread Hans Pizka
: Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves? In a message dated 12/7/2003 5:30:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Josef Meinlschmidt Ah... I wonder is it possible to order a set of 4 carbon fiber and 4 titanium valves from him for a Schmid? I'd love to have the money to try

RE: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-07 Thread Hans Pizka
, 2003 5:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves? Just joking around there Hans :) I'm sure that would probably set me back a lot of money to even attempt to order it... You have to admit Hans, if you were rich you would want a lot of things to play with too

RE: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-07 Thread Hans Pizka
, December 07, 2003 9:52 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves? That's an interesting list of your normally used horns. I notice there isn't a normal B/high-F descant in your list. If I may ask, when you played the Konzerstuecke down in New Zealand, what horn did you use

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-06 Thread Billbamberg
In a message dated 12/5/2003 5:00:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, Valkhorn writes: I never thought of this before, and I'm sure it's very expensive, but if you took one of your valves to a decent machining shop I'm sure they could copy it into any material you wanted. And, if you provided the

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-06 Thread Tom Warner
On 6 Dec 2003, at 3:02 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. However the mechanical linkages... to me they would appear to slow down the valve no matter what the valve was made of... Experience says no. Absolutely not. Modern mini-ball linkage is fast, silent and very direct. I hope I never

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-06 Thread Valkhorn
I might but I don't think I will ever buy one unless a Schmid bell ring was installed :) -William In a message dated 12/6/2003 9:53:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What theory? Be empirical. Try a Finke and find out. ___

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-06 Thread Valkhorn
I don't quite follow how mechanically it could be. When strings are used the force is always in the same direction. For mini-balls how could the force be as equally dispersed? Schmid has a great article on this: A

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-06 Thread Tom Warner
On 6 Dec 2003, at 7:40 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't quite follow how mechanically it could be. When strings are used the force is always in the same direction. For mini-balls how could the force be as equally dispersed? Schmid has a great article on this: Yeah, I've read it. The memory

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-06 Thread Billbamberg
In a message dated 12/6/2003 9:31:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Titanium valves have the advantage not being very sensitive to change of temperatures. They are very light, near to aluminium, don't oxide , do (nearly) never stick. And if the stick, you just turn them

RE: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-06 Thread Hans Pizka
PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves? I don't quite follow how mechanically it could be. When strings are used the force is always in the same direction. For mini-balls how could the force be as equally dispersed

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-06 Thread Valkhorn
My strings have never broken before in my life. If you take care to maintain your strings and watch them AND replace them as needed they will never break. -William In a message dated 12/6/2003 2:31:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did ever break a string just ten

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-06 Thread Valkhorn
Oh yes, and if you always have a prepared section of string and a small screwdriver in your case (I do all the time) you can fix the problem in a few seconds. -William In a message dated 12/6/2003 2:31:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did ever break a string just ten

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-06 Thread Billbamberg
In a message dated 12/6/2003 6:17:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, Valkhorn writes: Oh yes, and if you always have a prepared section of string and a small screwdriver in your case (I do all the time) you can fix the problem in a few seconds I'm experimenting with spectrum fishing line.

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-06 Thread Billbamberg
In a message dated 12/6/2003 6:17:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, Valkhorn writes: Oh yes, and if you always have a prepared section of string and a small screwdriver in your case (I do all the time) you can fix the problem in a few seconds I'm experimenting with spectrum fishing line.

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-06 Thread Valkhorn
Fascinating... I'd love to test that out. Right now I just use a spool of dacron (I have a good 100 meters left). So far I could replace the strings every week and have enough for two years. I wouldn't mind trying a spool of Polypropelene but so far my Dacron spool has about 40 years of string

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-06 Thread Valkhorn
Come to think of it I have a 100yd. spool of 80lb test strength spectrum fishing line. It is way too thin though but doubling up might do the trick as well... You know my only beef with the stuff is you need a really sharp knife to cut it. -William In a message dated 12/6/2003 9:00:04 PM

RE: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-06 Thread Hans Pizka
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Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-06 Thread Valkhorn
Not on Bruckner 4 just yet but I have had many trecherous soli in the middle of orchestra settings even sitting on first chair. Yes, not all solos are on first horn either. Full solo's are even worse. I'm soloing the Rosetti 5 concerto in E mind you (all of it) in two months with full

[Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-05 Thread Valkhorn
I know this may sound odd but a few years ago I picked up a nice round block of Titanium for under ten bucks. It is about a kilogram in weight. I completely forgot I had this and I found it the other day and I checked the dimensions and it is the perfect size to machine valves from. In fact I

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-05 Thread Tom Warner
On 5 Dec 2003, at 10:00 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus what about making them from Aluminum? That's a much lighter weight but I have no idea how that would hold up as far as a valve is concerned. Looking for light weight valves? Talk to Finke. It'd be interesting to compare the weight of his

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

2003-12-05 Thread Valkhorn
Interesting. However the mechanical linkages... to me they would appear to slow down the valve no matter what the valve was made of... I was talking about machining valves for existing horns... I think it can be done even without changing the rotor plates, etc. As to carbon-fiber valves, it's