Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!

2015-04-28 Thread john whelan
On the wiki page it refers to *JOSM Style 'HOT-OSM-Validation'* does this refer to the HDM style? Thanks John On 28 April 2015 at 06:44, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: NIck and I made this wikipage about it:

Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!

2015-04-28 Thread Pierre Béland
I would add to this, This is the ransom of the success we had with the OpenStreetMap responses over the last few years - Haiti 2010 1.5 million edits- Haiyan 2013 4.5 million edits- Ebola  million edits 16 milllions up to now? - Nepal 2015, 1.5 million edits in three days (my last count

[HOT] Internet connection for Kathmandu Living Lab

2015-04-28 Thread Pierre Béland
Transfering, exchanging data with Kathmandu Living Lab is a problem with the low band connection they have. Temporarily, we have to find somebody that can carry a disk pack. But this is not very efficient for such a response. Worth's trying: Anyone that could propose them free a better service

Re: [HOT] HOT Digest, Vol 62, Issue 36

2015-04-28 Thread Nick Allen
John, As well as the very good Mapgive site, could I suggest that someone has a read through http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/ which includes links to the section about the Tasking Manager. Although there will always be mistakes, the main point to watch out for, is that only

Re: [HOT] HOT Digest, Vol 62, Issue 36

2015-04-28 Thread Pierre Béland
Thanks John I think that it is the good approach to have local OSM contributors. They should be able to follow the newbies and correct various problems like roads not connecting, tagging problems, etc. The HOT irc and this list are good place to exchange on this. regard Pierre De :

Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!

2015-04-28 Thread Severin Menard
NIck and I made this wikipage about it: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data I should actually update it a bit. In CAR for exemple, everytime a job and task validation is done (the latter may not be finished, depending on the motivation of mappers), I unpublish

[HOT] Disaster OpenRouteService for Nepal available

2015-04-28 Thread Joao Porto
GIScience group of Heidelberg University http://www.geog.uni-heidelberg.de/lehrstuehle/gis/mitarbeiter_en.html just set up an OpenRouteService Disaster Map: www.openrouteservice.org/disaster-nepal which will be updated every 30 minutes. The map provides additional layers which show important

Re: [HOT] Road classification + Mapillary pictures on the map

2015-04-28 Thread Pierre Béland
The the humanitarians operate in a stressful context with a lot of operations to do. To sell these products to them, we need straightforward examples plus an easy worflow to transfer pictures. There are various experiments going on. Kathmandu Living Labs talked yesterday about their mobile

Re: [HOT] Kathmandu camps or incident reporting

2015-04-28 Thread Om G
QR codes can also be easily printed out locally and included on leaflets that are dropped into an area. I’m confident people will have cell coverage before some roads are cleared. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org

Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!

2015-04-28 Thread Om G
Ralph, I believe that you offered the solution within your message. Can we make it explicit that New volunteers are to ONLY work on the White Tiles ? I believe most volunteers are capable of following this request, and do have the best intentions with their involvement. It would be onerous

Re: [HOT] Nepal Activation Summary Update April 28, 2015

2015-04-28 Thread Blake Girardot
Hi Maning, You have no idea how valuable this summary is to our efforts. There is no way for me to thank you enough for it. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Cheers, Blake On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:28 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, posting a summary of my

Re: [HOT] WHO Healthcare Data

2015-04-28 Thread Rafael Avila Coya
Hi, Jaakko: That's why we have now strict import guidelines ;) I've checked some random nodes, and they are surely not eligible for import (those I checked are over a mountain or farmlands), and it would take a week or more to actually start the import after discussing with the Nepal local

Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!

2015-04-28 Thread Severin Menard
Yes On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:15 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: On the wiki page it refers to *JOSM Style 'HOT-OSM-Validation'* does this refer to the HDM style? Thanks John On 28 April 2015 at 06:44, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: NIck and I made this

Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!

2015-04-28 Thread Andrew Buck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I do agree with you in principle, and actually suggested using the information on the task manager linke number of tiles a user has completed to do things like flag new users tiles for extra caution in validating and such. Whether we want to restrict

Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!

2015-04-28 Thread Andrew Buck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think this is a good idea, a sort of 'tiered' priveledge system. New users can only map new tiles, then after completing 5 tiles or so they can move on to validating, etc. We could also look at data such as how many changesets the user has in total

Re: [HOT] NEPAL/Taginfo ( http://178.62.129.19/ temporary instance )

2015-04-28 Thread Imre Samu
Any chance we can get a more human friendly URL? good idea, here:-- http://nepal-taginfo.openstreetmap.hu/ ( but maybe need a little time to refresh a dns cache ) I have also updated the wiki with the human friendly URL: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake //

Re: [HOT] Nepal major road validation

2015-04-28 Thread kusala nine
Hi - just a bit more info on the validation on roads. I concentrated on Task 6 and got the following results from OSRM vs the UN document. OSRM are in (brackets). All distances in km. Kathmandu - Naubise 25 (30) Naubise - Palung 37 (43) Palung - Simbhanjyang 15 (18) Simbhanjyang - Bhainse 41 (41)

Re: [HOT] HOT Digest, Vol 62, Issue 36

2015-04-28 Thread John Andersson
Hi everybody, At Wikimedia Sverige we quickly started organizing an event at our office in Stockholm when we heard about the earthquake (we started the work before I read about the problems that you have experienced). The event will take place on the 29 April. I have asked the participants to

Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake, local asset and local maps

2015-04-28 Thread William Morris
On point 2, it looks like those are copyrighted, and we'll need to hold off until (if) those are approved by the Department: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake#Other_Data On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:55 AM Anders Anker-Rasch and...@anker-rasch.no wrote: Hi, lots of info

Re: [HOT] Road classification system in Nepal

2015-04-28 Thread althio
On 28 April 2015 at 11:46, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: on the Nepal Roads page, there is a section on Highways in Rural Mountainous Areas which seems to imply that highway=path is usually the correct tagging for these roads. Is this correct? highway=unclassified seems to be

[HOT] High Priority Areas to Map in Nepal

2015-04-28 Thread Nirab Pudasaini
Dear HOT folks, We have added a set of tasks to the list of tasks, based on our analysis of reports of most affected areas from media, UN ocha, red cross, and others. For the outskirts of Kathmandu, Bhaktapur, Lalitpur tasks,where we have post quake imagery, please update the

Re: [HOT] Road classification system in Nepal

2015-04-28 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Longtime OSMer, infrequent HOTtie here, I wanted to follow up with a question on road tagging: on the Nepal Roads page, there is a section on Highways in Rural Mountainous Areas which seems to imply that highway=path is usually the correct tagging for these roads. Is this correct? Also, in rural

Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake, local asset and local maps

2015-04-28 Thread Pierre Béland
Anders, people in Kathmandu could meet Nama and Kathmandu living lab colleagues and offer there help. Nama is on this list. About import from other maps, we have to be careful about licensing problems. Again, Nama (Nepal timezone) would be the person to answer these questions. regard Pierre

Re: [HOT] TomNod integration for the next time around

2015-04-28 Thread Eric Gundersen
Bill can you share more on this: as we move into damage assessment we're probably going to be a step behind the TomNod participants; I don't really understand what TomNod does or why people contribute to a proprietary platforms like TomNod. Why do think OSM needs a platform like TomNod and

[HOT] Task Manager jobs coordination

2015-04-28 Thread Pierre Béland
Please do not take the initiative to create Task Manager jobs. You should discuss this with the leaders of the activation. It is important to coordianate the content, either pre - post disaster, the instructions, the extent of jobs and avoid duplications. regard   Pierre

[HOT] AFP: helicopter image from hamlets on the hills in epicentre region

2015-04-28 Thread S Volk
Sorry, it glued to the end mark: https://twitter.com/AFPphoto/status/592992189384384512/photo/1 From: svo...@hotmail.com To: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: AFP: helicopter image from hamlets on the hills in epicentre region Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:41:32 -0300 Just to share: AFP -

[HOT] AFP: helicopter image from hamlets on the hills in epicentre region

2015-04-28 Thread S Volk
Just to share: AFP - Earthquake in Nepal devastates rural communities - the view from an Indian Army helicopter in the hills of Gorkha . That's the kind of small buildings and communities we see all around on the hills by the rivers of Gorkha to North, the region of the 7.8 epicentre. All that

[HOT] Nepal: indicating cloud cover?

2015-04-28 Thread m902
I'm concerned that we are marking as complete some tasks where we can't see anything on the imagery because of cloud cover. This could lead to settlements being overlooked. Is there some way of indicating that the task needs further investigation, perhaps with post-disaster imagery? OSM Notes

Re: [HOT] Nepal: indicating cloud cover?

2015-04-28 Thread Pierre Béland
Martin, if no Imagery report the task completed with a comment No imagery for this task. We are looking at a system to report all these areas.  regard  Pierre De : m902 m902@gmail.com À : hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 28 avril 2015 12h20 Objet : [HOT] Nepal: indicating

Re: [HOT] Road classification system in Nepal

2015-04-28 Thread Brad Neuhauser
So, partly my question is about clarifying the consensus on the Roads page, but it's also then making sure the correct info is included in the task instructions. Just noticed in the Local Roads section of the Nepal Roads page it says unpaved but motorable roads should be highway=track. That's

Re: [HOT] Garmin Map

2015-04-28 Thread Ralf Kleineisel
On 04/28/2015 09:50 PM, Pierre Béland wrote: Good that you check this. It might be possible. Can somebody check on a Garmin GPS? The IMG file in the zip is zero bytes, not much to check there. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org

Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project

2015-04-28 Thread Stacey Maples
Apologies for cut and paste, here you go Harushi: Basic Information for Contributing RIGHT NOW Working on OpenStreetMap Tasks General Info on the OSM Humanitarian Mapping effort : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake If you want to contribute IMMEDIATELY to ongoing

Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project

2015-04-28 Thread Pierre Béland
Stacey, Important that somebody revise these documents before advertisiing. http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/Nepal.htmlThis Guide should be revised. For IDP, it instruct Area feature Tent = Yes Instructions, as indicated in job 1010 are - idp:camp_site=spontaneous_camp -

Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project

2015-04-28 Thread Pierre Béland
Thanks Chad    Pierre De : Chad Blevins cblev...@usaid.gov À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr Cc : Stace Maples stacemap...@stanford.edu; Harushi Tetsuka haru...@prod-ent.com; hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 28 avril 2015 18h11 Objet : Re: [HOT] Would

Re: [HOT] Garmin Map

2015-04-28 Thread Pierre Béland
Thanks RalfI will report to Geofabrik about this.    Pierre De : Ralf Kleineisel ralf-li...@kleineisel.de À : HOT hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 28 avril 2015 16h18 Objet : Re: [HOT] Garmin Map On 04/28/2015 09:50 PM, Pierre Béland wrote: Good that you check this. It

Re: [HOT] Road classification system in Nepal

2015-04-28 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Thanks. Based on the feedback, I tried to clarify the wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads#Highways_in_Rural_.26_Mountainous_Areas On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: My vote for unpaved mountain roads between settlements is to be tagged

Re: [HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project

2015-04-28 Thread Chad Blevins
Pierre, I will take care of that now. My plan is to review this with a few folks today/tomorrow and post a more finalized version tomorrow. Thanks, Chad On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Stacey, Important that somebody revise these documents before

[HOT] Would like to assist in the Nepal Mapping project

2015-04-28 Thread Harushi Tetsuka
I am a retired professional with above average computer skills. I have registered with Open Street and HOT. I am ready to help but I am not clear on how to receive an assignment. In the meantime, I will try and get acclimated with the map making program. Please advise. Harushi Tetsuka

Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!

2015-04-28 Thread Stacey Maples
Yes, this is EXACTLY what we need more of. For every feature type being requested for major activations, there should be THIS type of specific guidance. Thanks Chad. I've added it to my page: http://stanfordgeospatialcenter.github.io/Map4Nepal_Resources/ In F,LT, Stace Maples Geospatial

[HOT] Undiscussed import of village nodes in Nepal

2015-04-28 Thread arch_a...@t-online.de
Hello, I've detected an undiscussed import of village names in Nepal. Please delete it before further damage arises due to this import. It is unclear where this data comes from and if it's copyrighted. Each node is tagged with fixme and note=these locations and village names

Re: [HOT] HOT Digest, Vol 62, Issue 36

2015-04-28 Thread John Andersson
Thanks for the tips Pierre, I make sure that we join the IRC channel. We will be working between 17-21 CET. Regards, John Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 14:23:21 + From: pierz...@yahoo.fr To: johnandersso...@hotmail.com; hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] HOT Digest, Vol 62, Issue 36

Re: [HOT] Garmin Map

2015-04-28 Thread Ralf Kleineisel
On 04/27/2015 12:37 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: Looking at Geofabrik latest addition [http://labs.geofabrik.de/nepal/ directory of files] updated every 30 minutes, I see that this also offer files formatted for Garmin devices. The Garmin zip file from Geofabrik is only 174 Bytes, seems to be

[HOT] Road classification + Mapillary pictures on the map

2015-04-28 Thread S Volk
To help on road classification, it also could be of great help if people that have pictures from rural regions of Nepal could upload it to Mapillary (need photos with EXIF geotag). I think also it could be useful if people on the ground with cell phones with OSMAND could have Mapillary

Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!

2015-04-28 Thread Stacey Maples
Joining this megathread with some feedback from trainings I'm running: 1. Peole area eager to do things the right way the problem is that once you've completed the Mapgive style training and selected a specific job to work on, there is VERY LITTLE TO NO GUIDANCE on what is the right way to

Re: [HOT] Road classification system in Nepal

2015-04-28 Thread Arun Ganesh
My vote for unpaved mountain roads between settlements is to be tagged highway=unclassified + surface=unpaved highway=track should be reserved for roads from settlements into agricultural land as it says in the wiki -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad

[HOT] Reminder about Self-Care (courtesy of Heather Leson)

2015-04-28 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Hello everyone, I am forwarding this note that Heather sent to us nearly a year and a half ago, because it's stuck in my memory since then. I want to amplify her call to encourage you all to be caring for yourselves and each other. If you've ever been on an airplane, you know that in case of

Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!

2015-04-28 Thread Severin Menard
Hi, We could also make slightly evolve the Tasking Manager and create an experienced mapper privileges status who would be required to have access to the validate/unvalidate steps and can promote any other mapper to this status, because she/he knowsher/him and trust her/his skills. The rest of

[HOT] Idp camp Katmandu

2015-04-28 Thread Frederic Moine
Dear all , Thanks all the OSM contributors for their amazing work yesterday on camp_site Following this task http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1008 We were able to share an IDP camp location layers for the response in the field. Via the katmandu living lab. You can find this layer with

Re: [HOT] Update hotosm's frontpage to feature the current Nepal earthquake response.

2015-04-28 Thread Heather Leson
Hello, Andreas, I updated the project image. Regarding the additional map on the project page, this is just the template. I modified it. Thank you Heather Heather Leson heatherle...@gmail.com Twitter: HeatherLeson Blog: textontechs.com On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Pierre Béland

Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!

2015-04-28 Thread Pierre Béland
Like we started yesterday, we need various ways to validate the data. Not only via the Task Manager. Yes, global validation are a good way to do it. We started to do for roads. If you think of other ways to validate, please do. I also asked previously for monitoring tools to better follow such

Re: [HOT] Nepal major road validation

2015-04-28 Thread kusala nine
I agree - a good methodology is to use the smaller tree diagram to validate in dividual distances and look at where they differ significantly. The UN doc itself is inconsistent. If you look at Kathmandu to Hetauda the tree diagram distances don't add up to the distance in the triangular table

Re: [HOT] NEPAL/Taginfo ( http://178.62.129.19/ temporary instance )

2015-04-28 Thread Robert Banick
Fantastic resource Imre. Any chance we can get a more human friendly URL? I suspect a lot of people will have trouble remembering that IP address or passing it along to others. — Sent from Mailbox On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:08 AM, Imre Samu pella.s...@gmail.com wrote: I have created a

Re: [HOT] Kathmandu IDP Camps TM1008 - Validation process

2015-04-28 Thread Robert Banick
Chad, we are asking for all IDP camps to be represented as ways / areas. We can reduce to points via the overpass api at a later date. Even if the areas are tiny that lets us know that it’s just a single tent, so it’s still useful information. — Sent from Mailbox On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:25

[HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Communications Help

2015-04-28 Thread Heather Leson
Hi Folks, Breathtaking contributions! 2182 contributors around the world. Mapping parties continue. We need your help. There are so many great stories of HOT that are not being told. We need some communications surge support. Please do contact us to help out. Thanks to Sajjad for this guest

Re: [HOT] #1009 Imagery Failure

2015-04-28 Thread Enock Seth Nyamador
Thanks Patrick. Best, - Enock twitter: @Enock4seth enockseth.blogspot.com | [[User:Enock4seth]] On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:48 AM, Patrick D patrick.d@gmail.com wrote: Enock, The imagery service seems to be operating fine. I've seen a few IO disk errors, which is typical when

Re: [HOT] AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!

2015-04-28 Thread Chia-liang Kao
Fellow mappers, Maintaining quality with large number of inexperienced mappers is a critical issue. However I think that open and inclusiveness is what makes OSM and HOT great, and we should work on accommodating newbies with better community support or technical improvement to make tools more

[HOT] Fwd: AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH!

2015-04-28 Thread Tim McNamara
[To list] -- Forwarded message - From: Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:59 Subject: Re: [HOT] AAGH! To: Chia-liang Kao cl...@clkao.org As well as training/documentation, we should also make sure that there are tasks available

Re: [HOT] Nepal major road validation

2015-04-28 Thread Pierre Béland
Great From your table, I see many significative differences. Taking shorter segments would help to validate further I think. cheers    Pierre De : kusala nine kusa...@googlemail.com À : hot hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 28 avril 2015 1h47 Objet : Re: [HOT] Nepal major road

[HOT] Willing to help Nepal friends

2015-04-28 Thread Danishka Navin
Hi there, I am Danishka originally from Sri Lanka but working in Singapore. I will be flying to Nepal on Friday to spend my long weekend to help Nepal people. Let me know if I can help you gurs. Prof. Sameer Verma suggest me to join with your team. Thanks, -- Danishka Navin

Re: [HOT] Undiscussed import of village nodes in Nepal

2015-04-28 Thread Serge Wroclawski
I have placed a block message on this users's account in the hopes that she reads it and can reply quickly to the changeset discussions. If I don't hear back from her soon, I will revert the changesets in order to minimize the disruption of mapping in Nepal during the crisis.

Re: [HOT] Undiscussed import of village nodes in Nepal

2015-04-28 Thread Rafael Avila Coya
Hi there: Thanks for informing about this. I contacted the user who made this import, offering help to do this import in a proper way, following strictly the imports guidelines. I am completely sure she did the import with good intentions, but it obviously cannot be done this way. I guess that,

[HOT] Willing to help Nepal friends

2015-04-28 Thread Danishka Navin
Hi there, I am Danishka originally from Sri Lanka but working in Singapore. I will be flying to Nepal on Friday to spend my long weekend to help Nepal people. Let me know if I can help you gurs. Prof. Sameer Verma suggest me to join with your team. Thanks, -- Danishka Navin

Re: [HOT] Garmin Map

2015-04-28 Thread Pierre Béland
Ralf Good that you check this. It might be possible. Can somebody check on a Garmin GPS? About your GPS update http://www.kleineisel.de/blogs/index.php/osmmap/ I added link in the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake#Exporting_OpenStreetMap_data Could you revise to