Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Jo
You could also fetch the history of the object with Ctrl-h, then click through on the changeset and leave a changeset comment. Jo 2016-04-24 22:24 GMT+02:00 Michael Heißmeier : > Hi, > > today I've been validating a lot on project 1836 and found the quality of >

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Russell Deffner
One other thing that might suggest the ‘advanced’ way is that we are needing to duplicate/translate instructions, guides, wikis, etc. – so, you might want to look at their profile and send one or the other of these links versus long explanation Ecuador Mapping Guide (English)

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Blake Girardot
Hi John, I would humbly disagree. With the "Authors" panel open in JOSM, you can easily evaluate mapping just done by one person, or check mapping done by one person. We all know the tasking manager is not great at keeping track of who mapped in a task square, only who marked it done. So I still

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread hyan...@gmail.com
Thanks Autre, Tomnod shapefiles has been used for pre-post event imagery and projects selection. Awaiting for next release. Thanks, Humberto Yances 2016-04-24 13:49 GMT-05:00 Autre Planete : > Greets Everyone on HOTOSM ! > > > Am not a trained professional in this

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Russell Deffner
Thank you Autre! Not many of us are :) and the vast, vast, vast majority of the mappers are just doing this volunteer-wise. If you want to ‘take the leap’, the best place for a ‘self-starter’ is http://learnosm.org – or if you want to ‘jump-in a little quicker’ http://mapgive.state.gov/

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Autre Planete
Greets Everyone on HOTOSM ! Am not a trained professional in this field. Am just marking all the damage on Tomnod . My heart is really saddened at all the damages buildings etc. I do *appreciate and respect all that you are all doing.* Hope it's okay to write these words of appreciation

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Russell Deffner
Of course! However, sometime in the last 24 hours we passed the 2 million map changes point – and 1800+ mappers, and giving individual feedback is one grand challenge – getting that data in a ‘very useful’ state is another. I’ll just quickly plug that the name of our Validation Activator

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Pierre GIRAUD
Hi John, I agree with you. Messages sent to users may be invisible or seen too late. I intend to add an "alert" like message to notify the user as soon as possible when he/she gets a new message. This way the beginner users would get notified almost immediately after an invalidation of their

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread john whelan
I think whilst mass validation can be appropiate sometimes such as in Ecuador at the moment I think what we lose from it is immediate feedback to an individual mapper which I think means less clean up to do afterwards. Cheerio John On 24 April 2016 at 12:09, Russell Deffner

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Russell Deffner
Thanks Nama, just trying to herd :) =Russ From: nama.budhathoki [mailto:namabudhath...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:06 AM To: Russell Deffner; 'Blake Girardot HOT/OSM'; 'John Whelan'; Megha Shrestha Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread nama.budhathoki
Hi Russell, Megha and couple of others from KLL are already in Trello. They will be happy to contribute on validation. Nama Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Russell Deffner Date: 24/04/2016 20:40 (GMT+05:45) To: 'Blake

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Russell Deffner
John, on this note, For road networks and rivers its actually a lot better as some mappers only map to the edge of the tile and the next mapper doesn't realise its important. We actually added a feature to the TM to create ‘tiles’ with ‘complex geometries’ for projects that don’t ‘fit in a

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread john whelan
I've used the mass validation technique before and you can pick up a fair chunk of stuff doing it plus it's faster than going through the tiles to validate. For road networks and rivers its actually a lot better as some mappers only map to the edge of the tile and the next mapper doesn't realise

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Mike Dupont
the validation problems that I have seen are with changes between versions of imagery. It might be good against bing but not against the last images post event. No automated process will pick that up. On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM < blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote: >

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Mike Dupont
I am busy invalidating the tiles. the new imagery shows many changes to bing. http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1832#task/21 the offsets are off. buildings are missing. On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 1:51 PM, John Whelan wrote: > > I'm seeing projects archived fairly quickly

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
Hi Mike, Really helpful insight on what is contributing to the issues, the imagery change, we need to look at how to minimize that through better instructions as well as validation folks need to be aware they should be using all the available imagery when working. Mass validation outside of the

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Russell Deffner
Hi Blake and John, I'll add to Humberto, we'll have a few staff in the HOT Indonesia office (tonight/their morning). We also have a standing offer from KLL to have some staffers focus on validation. These are great ideas, I don't want to lose them, so can we get them onto the Trello? Then

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
Hi Humberto and John, I really encourage you to look at ways of doing large scale validations. One way I have done it in the past is to download the tasking manager either project area, or even the individual task square outlines and load them up in JOSM, then just do large scale validation of

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
Hi John, Given that we are spending a lot of times on roads, getting road networks correct is pretty vital. Has anyone looked at using existing OSM tools, outside of the Tasking Manager to do large scale road network validation? The one that comes to mind is GeoFabrik's OSM Inspector:

Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread hyan...@gmail.com
Hello John, 2016-04-24 8:51 GMT-05:00 John Whelan : > > I'm seeing projects archived fairly quickly without validation. > > A team of validators will start with this ones from tomorrow, with the objective to review and validate all this squares. > Of the validation I

[HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

2016-04-24 Thread John Whelan
I'm seeing projects archived fairly quickly without validation. Of the validation I have done I've seen crossing ways and highways almost meeting on a project that was supposed to be Highways only for experienced JOSM users. JOSM validation should have highlighted these errors before

Re: [HOT] Ecuador - More Projects?

2016-04-24 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Hi, OSM France server has no capacity issue to host and serve more images. And there is a license agreement* defined and signed that allows imagery distributed by AirbusDS to be hosted by OSM France for mappers to produce derivative works for OSM database, and for no other use (in short). There