Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-04-07 Thread Harry van der Wolf
2010/4/7 Yuval Levy > On March 31, 2010 01:17:42 pm Bruno Postle wrote: > > Hugin is already overly complex, and users don't appreciate the > > possibilities of infinite combinations of options. Just because we can > > show the control points in Drag mode, it doesn't mean we should > > +1 > +1

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-04-06 Thread Yuval Levy
On March 31, 2010 01:17:42 pm Bruno Postle wrote: > Hugin is already overly complex, and users don't appreciate the > possibilities of infinite combinations of options. Just because we can > show the control points in Drag mode, it doesn't mean we should +1 for the occasional user less is better

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-31 Thread Darko Makreshanski
Bruno Postle wrote: On 30 March 2010 23:03, Darko Makreshanski wrote: Bruno Postle wrote: like the idea of a view of a globe showing the entire sphere around the camera With all this info, I think remapping the photos is superfluous and would confuse the clarity of the feature

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-31 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
> Hugin is already overly complex, and users don't appreciate the > possibilities of infinite combinations of options. Just because we can > show the control points in Drag mode, it doesn't mean we should - I > would rather enhance Show Points into a separate mode that also > highlights areas of th

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-31 Thread Bruno Postle
On 30 March 2010 23:03, Darko Makreshanski wrote: > Bruno Postle wrote: >> I like the idea of a view of a globe showing the entire sphere around >> the camera >> With all this info, I think remapping the photos is superfluous and >> would confuse the clarity of the feature as a diagram. Also if

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-30 Thread Darko Makreshanski
Bruno Postle wrote: Fancy effects are a good thing, the more fun Hugin is to use the better. So I really like the idea of animating the transitions between projections. The idea with the transitions was actually to animate unfolding of the sphere to explain the nature of projections. The tran

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-30 Thread Bruno Postle
On 29 March 2010 16:27, Darko Makreshanski wrote: > I'm actually still not sure what is the general opinion about this feature, > since apart from James, no one else has commented on it. Some thoughts from me, though there are more ideas already in this thread than can be implemented in one proje

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-29 Thread Yuval Levy
On March 29, 2010 11:27:09 am Darko Makreshanski wrote: > This system would contain both the spherical model without > Tr parameters and the mosaic model with Tr parameters. In the mosaic > model the hypothetical plane would also be rendered. sorry, my confusion. I mixed up Tr parameters with Tx,T

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-29 Thread Darko Makreshanski
Yuval Levy wrote: On March 21, 2010 05:44:49 pm Darko Makreshanski wrote: this mode wouldn't represent the output, but would represent an overview of the panorama in 3D space if you want to represent the panorama in 3D space properly, a Photosynth-like approach is better than the pano

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-28 Thread Yuval Levy
On March 21, 2010 05:44:49 pm Darko Makreshanski wrote: > this mode wouldn't represent the output, but would represent an > overview of the panorama in 3D space if you want to represent the panorama in 3D space properly, a Photosynth-like approach is better than the panosphere. Each picture is l

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-28 Thread Darko Makreshanski
James Legg wrote: On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 16:55 +0100, Darko Makreshanski wrote: Darko Makreshanski wrote: James Legg wrote: Have you thought about how the z-order of the images would work in the outside sphere view? The overlapping images in Hugin eventually get merged with e

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window (fast preview zooming part)

2010-03-28 Thread Darko Makreshanski
I have been going through the code for fast preview and I have come up with some initial ideas how to tackle the problem for zooming in the preview. 1. Meshes: Upon each remapping of a mesh, the remappers (or something else) would also create a bounding box for each mesh which will be used f

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-26 Thread James Legg
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 16:55 +0100, Darko Makreshanski wrote: > Darko Makreshanski wrote: > > James Legg wrote: > >> > >> Have you thought about how the z-order of the images would work in the > >> outside sphere view? > >> > >> The overlapping images in Hugin eventually get merged with enblend.

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-26 Thread Darko Makreshanski
Darko Makreshanski wrote: James Legg wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 00:57 +0100, Darko Makreshanski wrote: Yes, the equirectangular would be most suitable to convert to a 3D mesh. Basically I was thinking of projecting all of the images separately, each with its center as the center of project

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-22 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
> The only logical explanation I could think of, which is consistent with the > result in the preview, is that the images with non zero x,y,z parameters are > represented on a sphere with a shifted center, however the projection is > still done from the original center. > This actually could also b

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-22 Thread Darko Makreshanski
James Legg wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 00:57 +0100, Darko Makreshanski wrote: Yes, the equirectangular would be most suitable to convert to a 3D mesh. Basically I was thinking of projecting all of the images separately, each with its center as the center of projection. Then to convert each

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-22 Thread James Legg
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 00:57 +0100, Darko Makreshanski wrote: > Yes, the equirectangular would be most suitable to convert to a 3D mesh. > Basically I was thinking of projecting all of the images separately, > each with its center as the center of projection. Then to convert each > projection in

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-22 Thread Darko Makreshanski
James Legg wrote: On Sun, 2010-03-21 at 22:44 +0100, Darko Makreshanski wrote: This means that the remappers would need to be refactored or reimplemented to return a 3D texturized mesh. You should set up an equirectangular projection that is 360 degrees by 180 degrees, then either:

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-21 Thread James Legg
On Sun, 2010-03-21 at 22:44 +0100, Darko Makreshanski wrote: > The 3D panosphere mode would have very little in common with the current > projection mode. So it will not use the current projection techniques to > display the result (rectilinear for inside and orthographic for outside > look) but

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-21 Thread Darko Makreshanski
Hi, Thanks a lot for your reply. First, just let me clarify something for everyone, which I should have done in the previous mail. The 3D panosphere mode would have very little in common with the current projection mode. So it will not use the current projection techniques to display the re

Re: [hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-20 Thread James Legg
On Sat, 2010-03-20 at 17:15 +0100, Darko Makreshanski wrote: > Hi, > > I have some ideas which I would like to present and get feedback of you > for a project. It basically includes the "Zooming for Fast Preview" and > other improvements to "Fast Preview" > > My ideas are mostly concerned for u

[hugin-ptx] Improvements to the fast preview window

2010-03-20 Thread Darko Makreshanski
Hi, I have some ideas which I would like to present and get feedback of you for a project. It basically includes the "Zooming for Fast Preview" and other improvements to "Fast Preview" My ideas are mostly concerned for users that are just beginning with hugin, and users with not much knowled