Re: OA14248

2006-02-10 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Jim Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 02/09/2006 11:52:03 AM: And does this mean another hoary old ROT - don't assign non-page datasets on page volumes - can be assigned to the dustbin of

Re: State of the Mainframe - Part II: The Capacity Conundrum

2006-02-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
Great post! And as one who is tracking software billing charges for my shop, I can absolutely concur with *all* of your observations. Great to hear another data point, thanks! You missed an option, an ELA/ESSO. My current 2006 charges are actually *LESS* than they were for all of last year and

Re: File encryption

2006-02-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
Brian, One thing that we're all assuming is that you're talking about VSAM. Is that correct? If it's DB2 (or even IMS), there are some pretty easy ways to get encryption. DB2 V8 has a new ENCRYPT word in its SQL vocabulary for column-level encryption. There's also something called IBM Data

Re: State of the Mainframe - Part II: The Capacity Conundrum

2006-02-10 Thread R.S.
Timothy Sipples wrote: [...] I forgot a couple other software cost reducers, too: 1. With IFLs you get to consolidate lots of distributed software licenses onto a much smaller number of processors, including test and development software licenses. There is a large and growing number of

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
I hope you've been reading this thread because this is the real world I encounter. IBM seems to have no sense of urgency over this, but I'm might close to closing my doors after 30 years of being a self-employed trainer and 7 years with IBM before that. It's hard to predict the future precisely.

Re: File encryption

2006-02-10 Thread Perryman, Brian
Hi Timothy Yes, it's curently VSAM and QSAM, we don't have any databases. But the PCI-S standard to which we're having to comply (see the relevant VISA web sites for more details) specifies that ANY data file stored permanently on disk must have cardholder information encrypted so, basically,

Re: ISPCMDS

2006-02-10 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 21:54:09 -0500 Thomas Conley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :- Original Message - :From: Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main :Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:12 PM :Subject: Re: ISPCMDS : On Feb 9, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Dave Salt wrote: : From:

Re: State of the Mainframe - Part II: The Capacity Conundrum

2006-02-10 Thread Richards.Bob
See below. Bob Richards VP, Enterprise Technologist Enterprise Technology Infrastructure SunTrust Banks, Inc. (404) 575-2798 Seeing beyond money (sm) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Friday,

Re: Deleting an IODF Work Dataset

2006-02-10 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind I would like to delete an IODF work dataset which I'm using to learn and I know it's a liniar vsam dataset. How do you go about deleting such a dataset. IDCAMS DELETE entryname PURGE doesn't

IBMLINK this am.

2006-02-10 Thread Claude Richbourg
Hey all, Can any of you get to the IBMLINK web site this morning? I cannot and the web site just hangs. Here is the web url: http://www.ibmlink.ibm.com/cgi-bin/usa_sunset.html I presume this one is still valid. Thanks Claude

Re: IBMLINK this am.

2006-02-10 Thread Mark Jacobs
Yes that is the URL. No, I can't get to it either. Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Inc. Tampa, FL -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claude Richbourg Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: IBMLINK this am.

2006-02-10 Thread Knutson, Sam
It wasn't working for me too I had to queue on a PMR by telephone this morning. In the USA 800-IBM-SERV or 800-426-7378 Option 2. Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IBMLINK this am.

2006-02-10 Thread Karson, Lynne (SAA)
I can access it. It says that the IBMlink has been removed and replaced with links to IBM Support and Downloads http://www.ibm.com/support/us/, and IBMPartnerWorld http://www-1.ibm.com/partnerworld/pwhome.nsf/weblook/index.html, then it gives links to ServiceLink applications, which gave me a 404

Re: SMF 14/15 Confidence

2006-02-10 Thread Bruce Black
Actually, my point was, if your allocation is able to be done at a low enough level, you get below OPEN/CLOSE/EOV and 14/15 30 are not written. So, unless an exit had been put in to prevent the SMF records that someone did not tell me about (I was not the only developer doing things), we did

Re: IBMLINK this am.

2006-02-10 Thread Chris Mason
Claude, Your URL just worked for me. It said the site had changed in some way and you should now use either http://www.ibm.com/support/us/ or http://www-1.ibm.com/partnerworld/pwhome.nsf/weblook/index.html Three other URLs are mentioned. ServiceLink applications hangs, Purchase/Upgrade tools

Re: OA14248

2006-02-10 Thread Bruce Black
This already implies that one should not interfere with this presumption by ASM by placing other datasets with (heavy) load on the same volume. ASM assumes 2 private paths and if WLM does not assign more aliasses, the non-paging I/O will influence the paging I/O negatively. I agree with that.

Re: SMF 14/15 Confidence

2006-02-10 Thread Rugen, Len
I started this, so I'll post a follow up. Yet again, there was NO system problem. The user has a convoluted process of extracting data from a turn key system. They then run various .bat and .exe files to get a file that is uploaded to us. Something in their process is no longer filtering out

Re: LED type 24 hour clocks

2006-02-10 Thread Bruce Black
Try Sharper Image http://www.sharperimage.com/us/en/catalog/productview/sku__SF003SLV -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:

Re: IBMLINK this am.

2006-02-10 Thread Bruce Black
I can get on using this link http://www-306.ibm.com/ibmlink/link2/servicelink/servicelinkPage.jsp?lc=encc=US -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:

Re: IBMLINK this am.

2006-02-10 Thread Claude Richbourg
Thanks all, I am in now. Whatever happened has been fixed. Claude [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/10/2006 9:12 am Claude, Your URL just worked for me. It said the site had changed in some way and you should now use either http://www.ibm.com/support/us/ or

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Steve Comstock
Timothy Sipples wrote: I hope you've been reading this thread because this is the real world I encounter. IBM seems to have no sense of urgency over this, but I'm might close to closing my doors after 30 years of being a self-employed trainer and 7 years with IBM before that. It's hard to

Re: IBMLINK this am.

2006-02-10 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bruce Black I can get on using this link http://www-306.ibm.com/ibmlink/link2/servicelink/servicelinkPage.jsp?lc=enc c=US Working now from Chicago area. Was getting same error as others 15 minutes ago. -jc-

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Dean Kent
Steve Comstock wrote: Urgency must be relative. You don't have to generate your salary in the next two months, I would wager. I've traveled halfway around the world to do training, some of it at IBM's request (Kuwait, Denmark) some at my own initiative (Ireland, Singapore). Love it. Enjoy the

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Mark Jacobs
I guess when the urgency and panic arrives the people still left working are going to be offered an obscene amount of money not to jump ship when some other company who needs your services makes obscene job offers. Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Inc. Tampa, FLorida Time Warner -Original

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Robert, Our mainframe IS going away. I'll definitely tell the group after the conversion is done, and then after it is out the door. I don't like it, but I can see the huge cost savings that will result. Running 2 datacenters down to 1, licensing z/OS at $30,000 per month going away.

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs I guess when the urgency and panic arrives the people still left working are going to be offered an obscene amount of money not to jump ship when some other company who needs your services makes

Re: SMF 14/15 Confidence

2006-02-10 Thread Compton, John
Likewise when deleting a file (as I found out to my cost only recently) The type 17 (scratch) record is only written at file close time, so //step EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //ddname DD Dsn=x,DISP=(OLD,DELETE) deletes file 'x' and leaves no trace of 'whodunnit' behind... John Compton Capacity Planner ACS

Re: CLIST array variable?

2006-02-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/09/2006 at 05:28 PM, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In the CLIST above, no value has been set for COLOR Where is there a reference to a variable called COLOR? Shouldn't COLORCOUNT expand to (name), where name is COLOR followed by the value of COUNT? In the

Re: HP annual report

2006-02-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/09/2006 at 04:34 PM, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If an alternative ISPF interface has been there for decades and people aren't using it, That might be true where they make a conscious decision to not use it. But what about the many cases where users simply

Re: Missing UCBs

2006-02-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/09/2006 at 01:02 PM, Kittendorf, Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Well, I'm in FL but 30 deg F is a little chilly for a Floridian to bare much. g Bah! Back in Michigan we used to have something called the polar bear club. People[1] would chop a hole in the ice and

Re: ISPCMDS

2006-02-10 Thread Robert Lawrence
Thanks Dave, Learned something new, the EPDF command. I try to keep up with all new features with each system upgrade but missed that one. Bob Lawrence DBA Boscov's Dept Stores LLc -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Dean Kent
Mark Jacobs wrote: I guess when the urgency and panic arrives the people still left working are going to be offered an obscene amount of money not to jump ship when some other company who needs your services makes obscene job offers. Perhaps one can look at it as another Y2K opportunity...

Re: Deleting an IODF Work Dataset

2006-02-10 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks every one, we tried just about everything yesterday and really nothing worked. I tried what many of you suggested about midnight yesterday and it worked. Could anyone have has some sort of access to these datasets which were preventing the deletion? Anyway it's gone

Multiple address spaces

2006-02-10 Thread Johnny Luo
Hi, MVS(Multiple Virtual Storage) is the basic concept for z/os.However,after entering the mainframe world for eight months I still cannot understand it thoroughly,especially for ' multiple address spaces'. To make things simple,I'll assume 31-bit addressing only. 1,MVS allow different task to

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Thomas H Puddicombe
Mainframe jobs going away? They seem to be moving to India, Malaysia, and/or China. I've seen only small mainframes displaced by Unix and/or WinTel. The line between small and big seems to be around 120 MIPS (but is inching upward). Big mainframes seem to just get bigger. Tom

REXX , Panels and ISPEXEC Browse

2006-02-10 Thread David Christianson
I'm trying to write a REXX exec that calls in a panel. From that panel I have an option to select datasets which I want to browse. I get to my list of datasets I have the option to browse, but when I make my selection I get this error; Invalid parameter 'ISPEXEC BROWSE DATASET(FED.IS.INFO)'

Re: REXX , Panels and ISPEXEC Browse

2006-02-10 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
try single quotes David Christianson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 02/10/2006 10:33 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject REXX , Panels and ISPEXEC Browse I'm trying

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Patrick . Falcone
Same here in Southeastern Pa. area, Bucks County/Philly. This use to be a hotbed of mainframe activity and I talk to enough IBMers from around here who can say without doubt that the mainframe has been going away for years. I personally don't believe that the mainframe will ever *go away*, I

FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Robert Lawrence
Eric, What about Kohls Dept Stores? Are they still headquartered in your area? I worked on setting up their data center 20 years ago when they did a leveraged buyout at the time my then current employer decided to get out of the retail holding company business. I must say that they did

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-10 Thread Steve Comstock
Johnny Luo wrote: Hi, MVS(Multiple Virtual Storage) is the basic concept for z/os.However,after entering the mainframe world for eight months I still cannot understand it thoroughly,especially for ' multiple address spaces'. To make things simple,I'll assume 31-bit addressing only.

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-10 Thread Rugen, Len
I didn't understand MVS that well until I took a VM performance class. It's been a long time and these are generalized comments. Others will probably comment as well The hardware is what makes the software happen, research the S/390 Dynamic Address Translation box, ie the DAT box. The

Re: REXX , Panels and ISPEXEC Browse

2006-02-10 Thread Big Iron
I don't have an example handy, but you may need to code multiple single quotes within your panel to implement this suggestion. Something like: 'ISPEXEC BROWSE DATASET(''FED.IS.INFO'')' Bill On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:45:01 -0500, Richard Tsujimoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try single quotes

z/OS Console ID Tracking facility

2006-02-10 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi, Have you started the Console ID Tracking facility on your system? You probably should consider to do it. The Tracking facility records instances of one-byte or migration console ID usage. These instances are known as violations. Programs that use these one-byte or migration IDs are

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-10 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Johnny, Comments below: Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnny Luo Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-10 Thread Johnny Luo
On 2/10/06, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The limit on aux is much larger: paging data sets (what you call aux) are disk files that back up the pages not currently in real storage. So with lots of page data sets you can have lots of address spaces, each with a max of 2G virtual.

Re: Removing obsolete catalog references from VVDS

2006-02-10 Thread Matthew Stitt
I've tried to do that function. After a conversation with IBM support, we basically agreed to forget that problem exists. There is no way to remove a catalog name entry from the VVDS. Unless you want to try changing the records yourself (VERY not recommended). Doing a Delete Noscratch against

Disk dataset allocation within a pool defined by esoteric

2006-02-10 Thread Tim Hupe
Hello, Other than using SMS, is anyone aware of a system setting or JCL parameter that would bias the allocation of a disk dataset toward a range of volumes within a pool defined by esoteric ? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: REXX , Panels and ISPEXEC Browse

2006-02-10 Thread Steve Comstock
David Christianson wrote: I'm trying to write a REXX exec that calls in a panel. From that panel I have an option to select datasets which I want to browse. I get to my list of datasets I have the option to browse, but when I make my selection I get this error; Invalid parameter 'ISPEXEC

manipulating catalogs

2006-02-10 Thread Jim McAlpine
Is it ok to do the following - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-10 Thread Steve Comstock
Johnny Luo wrote: On 2/10/06, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The limit on aux is much larger: paging data sets (what you call aux) are disk files that back up the pages not currently in real storage. So with lots of page data sets you can have lots of address spaces, each with a max

manipulating catalogs

2006-02-10 Thread Jim McAlpine
Is it ok to do the following - LOCK CATALOG EXPORT CATALOG IMPORT CATALOG UNLOCK CATALOG while there are jobs referencing datasets in the said catalog, or should I wait until the work is quiesced. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-10 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Is it ok to do the following - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-10 Thread Wayne Driscoll
The contents of aux store is not byte addressable, rather there is a totally different address schema used for page datasets. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Disk dataset allocation within a pool defined by esoteric

2006-02-10 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Hi, Tim, other than using SMS or a vendor product, e.g., BMC MAINVIEW SRM Allocation, I don't know of any way of directing the allocation of non-VSAM datasets to a pool or subpool of disks. In my shop, we've been using the BMC product I mentioned for many years and we couldn't run our production

Re: Removing obsolete catalog references from VVDS

2006-02-10 Thread Larry Crilley
You probably have a reference in the VVCR for the catalog. Our product, T-REX, can easily remove these for you. Why not give me a call offline and we can talk about getting you a copy to run for a day. Larry Crilley Dino Software, Corp. http://www.dino-software.com/ 412-734-2853. Come see us

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Porowski, Ken
Just wondering Are there any 'new' mainframe shops/installations out there? Or is IBM just selling new frames (z990 z9) to users of older technology? Back a few years I would imagine a shop on x or i series eventually outgrowing these and moving 'up' to a z series. Today are they more

DFHSM tape recycle question

2006-02-10 Thread Wong, Dorothy
We are planning on moving our DFHSM ML2 volumes from our manual 3490E tapes to a virtual library (3494-B10). The simpliest way that I can think of is to do this is to just issue HSEND RECYCLE VOLUME(..) EXECUTE commands. Unfortunately, these seem to single thread. Somebody here said that

Re: Removing obsolete catalog references from VVDS

2006-02-10 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Could you try recreating the catalog name then deleting the VVDS entries, then deleting the BCS? I seem to recall doing this years ago and I think I was able to get rid of the orphaned VVDS entries that way. I would agree, though, that it isn't worth spending much time on it. No guarantees,

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-10 Thread Gerhard Adam
1,MVS allow different task to have their own address space.While the number of address space increases in system,the total amount of virtual storage can become very big. However,as I know,virtual storage is supported by real storage and auxiliary storage.With 31-bit addressing,the max size of

Re: Disk dataset allocation within a pool defined by esoteric

2006-02-10 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
On Friday 10 February 2006 11:23, Tim Hupe wrote: Other than using SMS, . Pardon my asking, but SMS has been around since 1989 and it's a standard component of all OS/390 and z/OS systems. Any particular reason why you're not using it? --  Gilbert Saint-Flour  GSF Software  

Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-10 Thread Larry Crilley
Jim, It sounds like you want to reorganize this catalog. What you have will work, but keep in mind that a LOCK will simply not allow access to the catalog. That is, the requester receives a non-zero return code and the request fails. If the catalog has entries for any online datasets, and

Re: FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Robert, I'm very aware of Kohls. A good friend of mine who left PH in the late 90's is still there. I keep telling him to retire, but he says he's going to work 3 more years till he's 65. I guess another guy is close to retirement age, but there has been no openings. I did send my resume

Re: Disk dataset allocation within a pool defined by esoteric

2006-02-10 Thread Bruce Black
Other than using SMS, is anyone aware of a system setting or JCL parameter that would bias the allocation of a disk dataset toward a range of volumes within a pool defined by esoteric ? Depends on what you mean by bias. If you define an esoteric name to a group of disk devices, and do

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-10 Thread Johnny Luo
God,it finally solves my problem.I cannot remember how many times I re-read read books just trying to understand muliple virtual storage but failed. Though still much to learn,it's a big big step for me,a beginner.Thank you all, so kind and quick reply:) -- Best Regards, Johnny Luo

Re: REXX , Panels and ISPEXEC Browse

2006-02-10 Thread Dave Salt
David Christianson wrote: I'm trying to write a REXX exec that calls in a panel. From that panel I have an option to select datasets which I want to browse. From: Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] ad Sounds like you could use our exciting course Developing Dialog Manager Applications in z/OS

Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-10 Thread Jack Kelly
it's ok to do it but if any jobs want to access the catlog while its locked they'll get an error retrun code and usually abend. good news is that the import is very quick, if you use a dasd copy to import Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390

Re: DFHSM tape recycle question

2006-02-10 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wong, Dorothy Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: DFHSM tape recycle question snip Hi, We recently move our HSM to virtual. We were able to do

Re: Disk dataset allocation within a pool defined by esoteric

2006-02-10 Thread Knutson, Sam
You could purchase something like ACC http://www.dtssoftware.com/product_acc.htm I am curious why you are starting out by deciding not to try using DFSMS base features? Thanks, Sam -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Hupe

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-10 Thread Tom Schmidt
Johnny, The maximum size for any single individual page dataset is 4GB. You can define up to 253 local page datasets per MVS image, so the actual maximum amount of AUX storage is 253 times 4 Gibibytes (or Gigabytes for the standards-challenged). That is roughly (but not quite) 1 terabyte of

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-10 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Johnny Luo wrote: MVS(Multiple Virtual Storage) is the basic concept for z/os.However,after entering the mainframe world for eight months I still cannot understand it thoroughlyi?1/2especially for ' multiple address spaces'. in the initial translation from real-storage MVT operating system,

IFL Workloads (was: Mainframe Jobs Going Away)

2006-02-10 Thread Rich Smrcina
Will we ever see a 3Ghz mainframe? Who knows, the z890/z990/System z9 go a long way to bringing Linux workloads back to the mainframe. Customers that were upset at performance back in the G5 days should give it another try, it has become much better. What sort of workload do you want to run

Re: REXX , Panels and ISPEXEC Browse

2006-02-10 Thread Jack Kelly
i think that you'll need to add address, eg ADDRESS ISPEXEC 'LMOPEN DATAID('DATA1') OPTION(INPUT)' Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: Disk dataset allocation within a pool defined by esoteric

2006-02-10 Thread Jack Kelly
only way i've done it is by coding the dasd exit which isn't too bad. sms is easier though Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-10 Thread Jack Kelly
mvs comes from the days of mft vs mvs (fixed # memories vs variabale) Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

Re: DFHSM tape recycle question

2006-02-10 Thread Gibney, Dave
That'll work also, but ALL or BACKUP with PERCENTVALID(100) is less keystrokes :) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFHSM

Re: CLIST array variable?

2006-02-10 Thread Dave Salt
From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where is there a reference to a variable called COLOR? Shouldn't COLORCOUNT expand to (name), where name is COLOR followed by the value of COUNT? Shouldn't that be SET COLOR1 = 1? If it worked like REXX, then yes it would work the way you've

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Thomas Dunlap
IMHO, mainframes are going away, at least as we have known them. Both Steve and Timothy (plus many others) make some very interesting points. Corporations seem to be overlooking the fact that many of us older IT workers (I first started on the S/360 when it was fairly new) will retire in the

Re: FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Desi de la Garza
Our mainframe is *NOT* going away plus we have openings.. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

Re: FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Richard Pinion
Ok, I have a suggestion. How about hiring a telecommunter? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/10/2006 12:47:14 PM Our mainframe is *NOT* going away plus we have openings.. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent:

Re: FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Steve Comstock
Desi de la Garza wrote: Our mainframe is *NOT* going away plus we have openings.. Great! Need any applications programmer training? Contact me off-list. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Robert Lawrence
Too bad, I forget the names that I knew, most came from GIMBELS Bob Lawrence DBA Boscov's Dept Stores LLc -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

REXX , Panels and ISPEXEC Browse

2006-02-10 Thread David Christianson
By adding this to my panel I was successful in part one; The suggestion given me was: In your case, try coding, for example 1,'cmd(browser fed.is.info)' where browser is a REXX exec that issues your ISPEXEC BROWSE command; write the exec so it can take a parameter of a data set name, maybe

Re: REXX , Panels and ISPEXEC Browse

2006-02-10 Thread Steve Comstock
David Christianson wrote: By adding this to my panel I was successful in part one; The suggestion given me was: In your case, try coding, for example 1,'cmd(browser fed.is.info)' where browser is a REXX exec that issues your ISPEXEC BROWSE command; write the exec so it can take a

Panels and ISPEXEC Browse

2006-02-10 Thread David Christianson
I figured it out. I had to change my REXX Exec from DISPLAY PANEL to SELECT PANEL. All is now well in da Nort region of the country. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: Panels and ISPEXEC Browse

2006-02-10 Thread Steve Comstock
David Christianson wrote: I figured it out. I had to change my REXX Exec from DISPLAY PANEL to SELECT PANEL. All is now well in da Nort region of the country. Great! Now, about that class... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Gary Green
Gimbels... Now there is a name I have not heard in years Next you'll mention Lit's. :( -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Lawrence Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW:

Re: FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Alan Schwartz
Meet me at the Eagle? Alan Schwartz Gary Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 02/10/2006 02:02 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

Re: Removing obsolete catalog references from VVDS

2006-02-10 Thread Barry Schwarz
As expected - IDC3016I CATALOG IS NOT AVAILABLE In something other than a data set entry, the VVDS has a reference to a no longer existing catalog. There is no catalog to clean up. Mark Thomen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Schwarz, Barry A wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I ran

Re: manipulating catalogs

2006-02-10 Thread Barry Schwarz
The Managing Catalogs manual describes this sequence with a DELETE and a DEFINE between the export and import, so the import is into an empty catalog. In this case, jobs referencing the catalog would probably get upset. Why do you wnat to do this if you are not going to empty the catalog

Re: FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Gary Green
Patted that thing on the butt quite a few times while waiting to meet someone there. Sat, or laid, under it while watching the light show at Christmas. That's about the only thing that remains... Of course it will live on forever in the movie, ah., I'll get it in a moment (I'm having

Re: FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Richards.Bob
Or Wanamakers, or Lord and Taylor, or EJ Korvettes. grin Bob Richards VP, Enterprise Technologist Enterprise Technology Infrastructure SunTrust Banks, Inc. (404) 575-2798 Seeing beyond money (sm) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 10, 2006, at 3:44 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote: ---SNIP--- It's also hard to say what the geographic distribution will be like. I've joked about the fact that if you know the Chinese language and mainframes then you have a job guarantee, but I think

Re: ISPCMDS

2006-02-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/09/2006 at 07:12 PM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I guess we have to agree to disagree. Some shops want vanilla A customized command table is *NOT* vanilla! -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/10/2006 at 10:00 AM, Rugen, Len [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think in MVS, storage is either private or common shared between all address spaces. That was true back in the days of MVS/SP 1.1, but with the advent of DAS it became possible for one address space to

Re: SMF 14/15 Confidence

2006-02-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/10/2006 at 12:13 AM, Steve Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Actually, my point was, if your allocation is able to be done at a low enough level, you get below OPEN/CLOSE/EOV and 14/15 30 are not written. Types 14 and 15 have nothing to do with allocation. WYLBUR,

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
Dean, Can I be a dino too? ;-) I was born in '76, mainframe systems programmer since '98. What is a KT boundary (guess I'm too young to know)? Regards, Steve snip -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dean Kent Sent: Friday,

Re: FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Gary Green
Korvettes... Wow! Now that is going back a ways. However, whenever I pass by on the Boulevard I think of that place... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richards.Bob Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 3:21 PM To:

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/10/2006 at 11:41 PM, Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MVS(Multiple Virtual Storage) is the basic concept for z/os.However,after entering the mainframe world for eight months I still cannot understand it thoroughly There are people on this list who offer training

Re: Panels and ISPEXEC Browse

2006-02-10 Thread Desi de la Garza
What class? age- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Panels and ISPEXEC Browse David Christianson wrote: I figured it out. I had to change my REXX Exec from

Re: FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I'm thinking that somewhere around 1960 is the mainframe KT boundary. No Dinosaurs were born after that date... ;-). I know of a 34-year old one. When I was working for ScotiaBank, we transferred three operations types into tech support. One as a SYSPROG: two as perf/cap. All they had to do

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