Re: CAZ????? modules (resolution coming)

2006-02-19 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
ibm-main wrote: So, CA still needs their arse kicked. Let's say Ed was right, and the product has been out there 25-odd years. And they *still* haven't registered it ... It's no surprise. The so-called registry is still somewhat informal and not that well known. Hardly anyone at IBM even

Re: SV: IBM Application Performance Analyzer

2006-02-19 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Peter Kvernes wrote: The answer is Strobe, or? These alternatives immediately come to mind. There may be others... http://www.compuware.com/products/strobe/default.htm http://www.bmc.com/products/proddocview/0,2832,19052_19429_23398_1363,00.html

Re: HMC on z9

2006-02-19 Thread Rafa Pereira
Up to now, with OS/2-based HMCs attached to z900, we made use of the Netscape browser to connect from one HMC to the other. This was quite convenient for us, as we have the first HMC at hand, while the other one is away from us. However, with z9 and the new linux+java-based HMC we don't have this

Mount DASD as read-only

2006-02-19 Thread Lucas Morton
Hi, can someone tell me how can I do to mount a dasd volume as read-only? (if there is a way). Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET

Re: Mount DASD as read-only

2006-02-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Hi, can someone tell me how can I do to mount a dasd volume as read-only? (if there is a way). Run z/OS as a guest under z/VM. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Mount DASD as read-only

2006-02-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 00:00:00 GMT Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Hi, can someone tell me how can I do to mount a dasd volume as :read-only? (if there is a way). :Run z/OS as a guest under z/VM. I remember, in the ancient past, that there was a switch on the device to make it read-only.

Re: IBM Application Performance Analyzer

2006-02-19 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
Ed, I keep a complete list of all MVS debugging and performance analysis software I know about here: http://gsf-soft.com/Documents/MVS-APPL-DEBUGGING.shtml But I don't believe the OP was looking for alternatives to the IBM APA. His question was this: Has anyone made APA an integral tool in

Re: Mount DASD as read-only

2006-02-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I remember, in the ancient past, that there was a switch on the device to make it read-only. How do you physically make a logical device that is spread over umpteen volumes read-only? You would need a switch for each cylinder/track on each disk. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the

Re: Mount DASD as read-only

2006-02-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lucas Morton Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 6:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Mount DASD as read-only Hi, can someone tell me how can I do to mount a dasd volume as

Re: IBM Application Performance Analyzer

2006-02-19 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Gilbert Saint-Flour wrote: I keep a complete list of all MVS debugging and performance analysis software I know about here: http://gsf-soft.com/Documents/MVS-APPL-DEBUGGING.shtml I didn't know you kept such lists. Useful to know. I couldn't help but notice your Performance Monitors -

Re: Mount DASD as read-only

2006-02-19 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/19/2006 8:21:44 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: remember, in the ancient past, that there was a switch on the device to make it read-only. There was but probably don't want to do it today. Can control with security product at VOL and DSN

Re: Heads Up - LE PE - PK15432

2006-02-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:44:52 -0500, Bob Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a job ready to pull PK15432 and a couple relatives but I doubt that I'll have to use it after two months. As far as anyone knew, we ran fine with the PK15432 for close to a month, so time may not be a good

Re: CAZ????? modules

2006-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/18/2006 at 09:32 AM, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In the USA, we drive on the right. On a freeway (or highway), the fastest cars are supposed to drive in the left lanes; the slower ones on the right. Every time someone says I don't believe in theories

Re: CAZ????? modules

2006-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/18/2006 at 03:36 PM, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Incidentally, I once saw a cartoon of US police pulling over a car because it was going too slowly. This was some years ago and, at the time, would never have happened in the UK, hence the opportunity for

Re: Don't fully understand IBM terminal

2006-02-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Please don't send duplicate copies of your replies. In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/18/2006 at 11:42 PM, Matt Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: My fault, I'm referring to our Z/OS consoles, we have four of them, each identified by a Tel#. Their different TSO's as I'm told. Is that like having 4

Re: HMC on z9

2006-02-19 Thread R.S.
Rafa Pereira wrote: Up to now, with OS/2-based HMCs attached to z900, we made use of the Netscape browser to connect from one HMC to the other. This was quite convenient for us, as we have the first HMC at hand, while the other one is away from us. However, with z9 and the new linux+java-based

Another z9 HMC problem

2006-02-19 Thread R.S.
Now it's regular bug IMHO. Did anybody try to import text file with OSA-ICC definitions ? During validation process it says no client IP address provided ...directly above the line with CLIENT_IP=ip_address. More: I exported working (generated by HMC) file and then imported it back. It also

Re: Disk vs Tape scenario

2006-02-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Ron and Jenny Hawkins said: Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:52:32 +0800 The main difference between Instant Split and COW is that the Source data will always be copied to the target location eventually, whereas with Copy On Write only updated data is moved to the update

Re: Disk vs Tape scenario

2006-02-19 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 18, 2006, at 11:44 PM, Bruce Black wrote: Let me elaborate on what Ron said. There are essentially 3 technologies out there for instant replication of data. 1) Snapshot, in the IBM RVA and the StorageTek(Sun) disks, was truly instant, since the architecture allowed data to be copied

Re: Heads Up - LE PE - PK15432

2006-02-19 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/19/2006 12:01:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And depending on what downstream programs process or people looking at data see, the condition may not be detected quickly or easily. Yeah this could get nasty. Feeds to Data Warehouse, Data

Re: Disk vs Tape scenario

2006-02-19 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 18, 2006, at 11:50 PM, Bruce Black wrote: OK but it is far from *INSTANT* the propagation delay is still there, no matter how fat (big) of pipline you may have, right? Ed, I don't quite see your point. In the technologies that Ron and I described, when you access the data on the

Re: z/Architecture Principles of Operation (SA22-7832-04)

2006-02-19 Thread Todd Burch
(Attn: old post resurrection warning...) Thomas, I'm using the Long Displacement Facility quite a bit in a piece of code I'm writing now. It's not so much that I need it for the CSECT, but for the DSECT. Overall, I'm pretty satisfied with it. There is however, one consideration that I'll point

Re: Mount DASD as read-only

2006-02-19 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 19, 2006, at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: I remember, in the ancient past, that there was a switch on the device to make it read-only. How do you physically make a logical device that is spread over umpteen volumes read-only? You would need a switch for each cylinder/track on each

Re: Military Time?

2006-02-19 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
John D. Slayton wrote: Are ALL Mainframe systems have the Military or hour format? Please advise...thanks I beleive that all clocks in all computers use a 24 hour clock internally. How it display's is up to whomever writes the software and the OS. I personally perfer 24 hour time, as it

Re: Mount DASD as read-only

2006-02-19 Thread Kent Ramsay
In the *OLD*, *OLD* days, the 1311(1401/1441/1460-series machines), 2311 AND the 2314 disk drives had a read-only switch. For operators, it was a great way to get rid of a nuisance programmer by convincing him he had a problem with his program's logic since it would cough-up a very cryptic error

Re: Military Time?

2006-02-19 Thread john gilmore
This topic has been discussed ad nauseam. Consult the archives! John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there!

Re: Military Time?

2006-02-19 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
John D. Slayton wrote: Are ALL Mainframe systems have the Military or hour format? Please advise...thanks 360s had a 32bit, binary timer ... located at location 80 (hex '50') in real storage. it was about 15hr period ... and most machines updated it about 3milliseconds. some machines had

FileAid Empty File Check

2006-02-19 Thread Steve Burks
I have been using a FileAid Step in JCL to check for an empty file and then executing a subsequent block of JCL if the return code is 0. This works great for RECFM=FB datasets. For some reason it will not work on RECFM=FBA or RECFM=VB datasets. Is there a way to make these work?

Re: Military Time?

2006-02-19 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Gene Cash wrote: I never understood the reasoning behind this implementation. So it had to go across the bus to increment the clock? It wasn't just a hardware counter with an increment line tied to an oscillator? originally, why i don't know. 360/67 had high-resolution timer option

Re: z/Architecture Principles of Operation (SA22-7832-04)

2006-02-19 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
Haven't seen any IBM-DSECT which is longer then 4096 bytes (z/os R4 and R7) Or do you think about you own DSECT for working storage or static areas? Perhaps you can substitude the instruction like COPY IEABRC does? Oh well haven't spend so much time to look at it. You may post this to the

Re: Military Time?

2006-02-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Anne Lynn Wheeler said: Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:47:43 -0700 370 introduced 64bit hardware clock ... hardware spec called for machines to update the timer on approx. same period as instruction execution time ... but as if bit 51 represented one microsecond (bit

Re: Disk vs Tape scenario

2006-02-19 Thread Timothy Sipples
Quick pet peeve alert(*): the term open systems as currently applied. For example, I fail to see how a Microsoft Windows server is an open system and a mainframe running Linux (an open source operating system, after all(**)) is not. Could we all agree to call them distributed systems? Seems a

Re: IBM Application Performance Analyzer

2006-02-19 Thread Timothy Sipples
But I don't believe the OP was looking for alternatives to the IBM APA. His question was this: Has anyone made APA an integral tool in the software development cycle? If so, where are you getting the most bang for the buck? Yes, that's how I read the question too, but perhaps the original poster

Re: Disk vs Tape scenario

2006-02-19 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Timothy, Open Systems is Hitachi parlance for drives formatted in FBA format and used by Linux, UNIXen, and Windows. I don't see that we need to change 10 years of convention. BTW I thought that the term Open Systems was for those that complied with Open Systems Foundation standards, and that

Re: external vs internal coupling facility

2006-02-19 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4)
Moving the CF from external to internal might introduce single points of failure which may lead to data loss. So, careful planning is due. Some apply only to multi system sysplex, some also to single system environments. Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE

Re: z/Architecture Principles of Operation (SA22-7832-04)

2006-02-19 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc wrote: Haven't seen any IBM-DSECT which is longer then 4096 bytes (z/os R4 and R7) Or do you think about you own DSECT for working storage or static areas? Perhaps you can substitude the instruction like COPY IEABRC does? Oh well haven't spend so much time to

Re: FileAid Empty File Check

2006-02-19 Thread Michael W. Moss
Hi Steve, A similar question was asked before on a different list: http://mvshelp.net/vbforums/showthread.php?t=21311 Maybe a different utility such as DFSORT/SyncSort or IDCAMS might be the answer… Regards, UK Mikey. On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:46:28 -0600, Steve Burks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

R: FileAid Empty File Check

2006-02-19 Thread MASSIMO BIANCUCCI
If you need to better customize RC you could use a REXX. Let me know if you need the very simple code. Best regard. -Messaggio originale- Da: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Steve Burks Inviato: lunedì 20 febbraio 2006 0.46 A: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU