Re: Souce Control for z/OS

2007-03-08 Thread Timothy Sipples
A few points on the IBM products. SCLM has multiple modules. Base SCLM is in z/OS itself, and then the various other components come under the SCLM Advanced Edition umbrella, a separately licensed product. I would not characterize SCLM Advanced Edition as basic in function. Also, you can actual

Re: JAVA In Batch

2007-03-08 Thread Timothy Sipples
John McKown writes: >As an offshoot from this, if it were my choice, then I'd likely keep my >Java development stuff on a UNIX file server. This UNIX file server >would NFS export the appropriate subdirectories. The z/OS system would >NFS import them. All Java development would occur on PC desktops

Re: General question on licensing "obsolete" IBM products

2007-03-08 Thread Timothy Sipples
>Getting media is another question. IBM may not be able to supply it, so >you'll have to find it from another source. As long as you have a valid >license this is apparently OK. Most IBM software doesn't have license >keys, so no obstacle there. It has since been pointed out to me that not all

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-08 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i apologize that i've not done what you have instructed me to do. > maybe you should also try ordering some number of other people to also > answer your questions. reference: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#3 FBA rant part of the reason tha

Re: ISAM and/or self-modifying channel programs

2007-03-08 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Art Celestini wrote: > Today, true, self-modifying channel programs would require the use of a Start > I/O driver since it is the real (not virtual) channel program that actually > executes. The closest thing I've seen to that in MVS are specialized drivers > that use PCIs to monitor the progre

Re: ISAM and/or self-modifying channel programs

2007-03-08 Thread Art Celestini
In my book, that's not *really* a self-modifying channel program. (It's just using the same data area in more than one CCW. I know of at least one ISV product in use today that writes from a buffer and later in that same channel program, uses the same buffer for input.) The only *real* self-m

Re: TSSO and z/OS 1.8

2007-03-08 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi, Larry Lawler (aka Dr. CICS) recently submitted some updates for TSSO and z/OS R8. The should be up on the CBT site soon. Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: TSSO and z/OS 1.8

2007-03-08 Thread W. Kevin Kelley
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:50:08 -0600, David Gosse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello, >I have pulled the latest TSSO version from the Updates section of the CBT >site. I am trying to assemble it using z/OS 1.8 macros. The assembly of >TSSO fails with an undefined symbol UCMMCENT. The assembly of TSSO

Re: IEBCOPY question?

2007-03-08 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mark Zelden wrote: On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:24:20 -0500, John Eells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe Mark and I can talk about whether COPYMOD is worth it in San Diego... Planning on being there and hope to see you there as well. BTW, just to reiterate - I never said "it wasn't worth i

Re: Download z/OS software protocols (was SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?)

2007-03-08 Thread john gilmore
Shane writes: > Dumb question: does IBM only distribute various fixes electronically, or can > you get an entire newly-ordered product via the Internet? Depends on where you are. and I have only just realized how important---and how very odd---this qualification is. IBM's Pacific-ba

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-08 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You still have not gotten the point. The problem I have is not with my > browser or any of your fine articles that you have posted. My problem is > that > you keep ignoring or missing my one and only question. So here it is again > in > slow motion: > > If IB

Re: IBM's web Face

2007-03-08 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 8, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Thompson, Steve wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan C. Field Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM's web Face Is there a place in IBM that cares

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/8/2007 5:59:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Now there is another possibility that you may be having. I recently updated file _http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html_ (http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html) with most recent posts. If your br

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-08 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please be more specific. There are about 100 articles on that web page. I'm not sure I understand your reference ... with respect to post ... copy here at http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#0 FBA rant there is http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/index.html what has a

Re: TSSO and z/OS 1.8

2007-03-08 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi, Can you send me your assembly listings offline and I'll fix it for you? Then we can put the updated version on CBT for everyone else. Thanks, Brian Westerman -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruction

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
Much of this FBA Rant thread that discusses a more better geometry is a repetition of posts beginning around MAY 2005; e.g. this one: _http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0507&L=ibm-main&P=R61142&I=3&X=63346820B0 E4003BA4&Y=DASDBILL2%40aol.com_ (http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0507&L=ib

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-03-08 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Patrick O'Keefe wrote: I remember 3 different BPSloaders - 3-card, 7-card, and 12-card versions. There very well could have been a 6-card loader, too. I have no idea what the differences were but I bet the 3-card loader didn't uspport REP cards. IPL does a "02" read operation of 24 bytes at l

Re: Download z/OS software protocols (was SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?)

2007-03-08 Thread Tony Harminc
Chase, John wrote: > I believe you can get any IBM software delivered electronically, from > single fixes to z/OS Serverpacs. > > Electronic delivery of hardware is still in the future Well, you can get a CPU upgrade electronically (assuming the chip is already installed in your box, which i

Re: DITTO/Tape Copy Redux

2007-03-08 Thread Ed Gould
There is a (I think) Freebie from CA. IIRC its included if you have CA-1. My memory is sketchy but a few people have used it successfully. Ed On Mar 8, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Daniel McLaughlin wrote: I understand that we are looking for the least expensive solution (free) and buying other tools

Re: D37 for PDSE in LNKLIST in SYSPLEX

2007-03-08 Thread Ed Gould
NOT for the faint of heart but you should be able to amaspzap the format4 DSCB to something else and then create another dataset with a close (but different name) copy the 'zapped" ds to the "new dataset" and then zap the dscb of the new dataset to the old dataset set name. You might have t

Fw: General question on licensing "obsolete" IBM products

2007-03-08 Thread Bill Klein
Actually, there is exactly ONE chapter, 3.2 Chapter 6. Moving from the OS/VS COBOL run time at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IGY3MG32/3.2 That tells you what to look for in migrating existing OS/VS COBOL compiled programs to an LE run-time. Have you read the su

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/8/2007 3:28:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: warning/limitation several times in the past on IBMLink that we are s'posed to only bookmark the initial screen. I guess that is so they can willy-nilly change the other screens - and hopefully get th

Re: Download z/OS software protocols (was SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?)

2007-03-08 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 06:38 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > Dumb question: does IBM only distribute various fixes electronically, or can > you get an entire newly-ordered product via the Internet? Depends on where you are. Shane ... -

Re: IBM's web Face

2007-03-08 Thread Mark House
WEB FACE So many links, so little time. Mark House (402) 778-1966 Technical Development Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail message and any attachments may contain confidential, proprietary or non-public information. This information is intended solely for the designated recipient(s). If

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Mark House
90 PERCENT IS OPTIMISTIC. Wait a minute, does that mean that they are going to bill us 90 percent of the current expense. Mark House (402) 778-1966 Technical Development Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail message and any attachments may contain confidential, proprietary or non-public infor

Re: Is IEF686I DDNAME REFERRED TO ON DDNAME KEYWORD ... new?

2007-03-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/05/2007 at 03:44 PM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Is IEF686I DDNAME REFERRED TO ON DDNAME KEYWORD IN PRIOR STEP WAS NOT >RESOLVED new in z/OS (new relative to OS/390)? That message or one very similar goes all the way back to OS/360. >I have JCL that

Re: Looking for ideas on remote system

2007-03-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/07/2007 at 11:12 AM, Andy White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >As far as I know TSO still needs Vtam to logon, Yes, unless you count TSSO as TSO. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: SHARE Sing Along Book

2007-03-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/07/2007 at 09:46 AM, Tom Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Does anyone know where I can find the words to some of the songs in >the SHARE sing-along book? Buy a copy at SCIDS. The boss said that he understood why I would want to wait A week or two to run the PU

Re: Outsourcing perils was Re: sysprog demand in USA

2007-03-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
Steve_Thompson @ ibm-main.lst wrote: >I'm baffled at outsourcing to countries that are a security risk to the USofA. Countries that have a sizeable number of Islamic radicals should not be targets of outsourcing. How about keeping our business inside our country - which also contains sizeab

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Robert, It is the other way around. Jon said he was told to ONLY mark the initial logon screen. Right, wrong, or indifferent, I've seen this warning/limitation several times in the past on IBMLink that we are s'posed to only bookmark the initial screen. I guess that is so they can willy-nilly c

Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command

2007-03-08 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden > > [ snip ] > > BTW, is anyone else have problems with IBMLINK on the web? I > had to go into "classic" IBMLINK to pull up the APAR. I just closed a PMR, updated another one and created a new one via t

Re: Souce Control for z/OS

2007-03-08 Thread Lizette Koehler
Steve, There are many good products on the market. Endevor, SCLM, Changeman, bare bones ones like Panvalet and Librarian. You need to decide what kind of effort do you want to get involved with. Endevor and Changeman will maintain everything you are looking for. But can take a staff to suppo

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/8/2007 2:50:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >re: _http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#64_ (http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#64) FBA rant Please be more specific. There are about 100 articles on that web page. >for other drift

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>"IBM - WE DON'T SERVICE WHAT WE SELL" IBM -- We make mistakes so you don't have to! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Souce Control for z/OS

2007-03-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
ChangeMan/ZMF from Serena - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-08 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. And what device, other than the 2321, ever had meaningful non-zero values for the bb part of bbcchh? In other words, if there had never been any 2321, why would we have needed the extra 2 bytes for the bb in seek and search addresses? re: http://www.garlic

Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command

2007-03-08 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Mark Zeldon writes: BTW, is anyone else have problems with IBMLINK on the web? I had to go into "classic" IBMLINK to pull up the APAR. Mark, folks have been complaining about IBMLINK all afternoon. Since you also have access to the (obsolete) version why not open an ETR? It may not help but, at

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-03-08 Thread Chris Langford
VM has always shipped with '3CARD LOADER S2' With the advent of XA the number of cards increased to 5. (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: In a message dated 3/8/2007 2:05:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, _patrick.okeefe @ WAMU.NET_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: I remember 3 diff

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-03-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/8/2007 2:05:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, _patrick.okeefe @ WAMU.NET_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: >I remember 3 different BPSloaders - 3-card, 7-card, and 12-card versions. There very well could have been a 6-card loader, too. I may have had a brain check. I

Re: IBM's web Face

2007-03-08 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan C. Field Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM's web Face Is there a place in IBM that cares that you can address a complaint to? Perhaps SHA

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
No, what I should have said is that when I send my check to IBM it will get there 90% of the time! Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Justice Sent: Thursday, March 08, 20

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Robert Justice
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:54:09 -0500, Veilleux, Jon L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I received a call back from IBMLINK support and was told that if I >bookmarked any screen except the initial logon screen that the logon >would work 90% of the time. What's wrong with this answer!! >I have no hope

Re: TN3270

2007-03-08 Thread Hal Merritt
Nothing. The standard OSA and native software has supplied all of this functionality for years. Many argue that there was never a need for such in the first place. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L Sent: Thu

Re: MIM control file volume DASD lockout

2007-03-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/7/2007 4:47:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, David.A.Wright @ DOM.COM writes: >We have been getting MIM control file lockouts for almost a year. We have been working with STK (the DASD manufacturer), IBM and CA (MIM). So far, nothing has resolved the problem. I discov

Re: How are you handling high SMF record volume?

2007-03-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >We would like to move these records from SMF to GTF To disagree slightly with Barry Merrill, not all SMF records are written using an SVC. There is also a branch entry path if using the SMFEWTM macro instead of SMFWTM. But this is a

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Little, Dan W (RBC IT)
AMEN to that!!! Web does not necessarily equal GOOD. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L Sent: 2007, March, 08 1:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY? NO, they are removing the version

Re: IBM's web Face

2007-03-08 Thread Alan C. Field
I was hesitant to even go and ask our firewall guys but finally did. You should see the length of the ETR I have open before I got that one nugget from the support people to say it was broken!! Is there a place in IBM that cares that you can address a complaint to? My firewall guys will be

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
I received a call back from IBMLINK support and was told that if I bookmarked any screen except the initial logon screen that the logon would work 90% of the time. What's wrong with this answer!! I have no hope for the 'new' IBMLINK! Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 ---

Re: IBM's web Face

2007-03-08 Thread Jon Brock
I personally was glad to see the same re my own problems with it. Jon My firewall guys will be glad when I tell them that my problems trying to use RECEIVE ORDER for the last two days are not our company's firewalls' fault. Brian On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:53:55 -0500, Matt Dazzo wrote: >Yeap >

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Tergerson, John
I don't know where the problems are limited to, but I have been on IBMLink all day. I just logged on to ShopzSeries, and got in right away. Confidentiality notice: The information included in this e-mail, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain c

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Howard Brazee
On 8 Mar 2007 11:36:31 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote: >You gotta just get used to the "new way". The "new way" is pretty, it's >"kewl", you can get around in it with mouse clicks instead of a bunch of >typing, etc. > >They gotta get rid of the "old way" because all it does is work

Re: IBM's web Face

2007-03-08 Thread Brian Peterson
My firewall guys will be glad when I tell them that my problems trying to use RECEIVE ORDER for the last two days are not our company's firewalls' fault. Brian On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:53:55 -0500, Matt Dazzo wrote: >Yeap > >Matt Dazzo Alan.C.Field 3/8/2007 1:06:34 PM >>> >Any one else havi

IBM @ 1-800-237-5511

2007-03-08 Thread Alan C. Field
Since IBMLINK isn't too reliable maybe we should go back to 1-800-237-5511. Does it even still work? A sudden increase in call volumes (assume thay track that stuff) should garner attention from someone. Alan -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robert Justice > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:34:43 -0600, Bob_H wrote: > > >Might be why it is being removed. > > > > Unfortunately however, they are getting rid of the version > (3270) that actually works and is the ea

DFSMS/RMM Tape Copy/Stack

2007-03-08 Thread Robert Fake
Hi, I've searched the IBM-MAIN archives, but could find an answer to my question there. I have a customer who is interested in copying several thousand tapes to new tapes. They are an RMM TMS. Does DFSMS/RMM have a tape copy/stack capability? Any other thoughts? Client doesn't want to pu

ISAM and/or self-modifying channel programs

2007-03-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/7/2007 4:47:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >recent thread discussing patching CCWTRANS to handle ISAM and other self-modifying channel programs Is ISAM still used anywhere under MVS/ESA/OS-390/z? Does anyone know of any self-modifying DASD cha

Re: D37 for PDSE in LNKLIST in SYSPLEX

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:06:30 -0600, Mark House <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Summary: We need to delete a file that has enqueue's on the DSN in >multiple LPAR's on the same Z/900. Any help would be appreciated. > >In performing SMP/E processing we ran into a D37-04 on the CBC.SCCNCMP >that resides o

Re: Souce Control for z/OS

2007-03-08 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Thompson > > If one needed a source control system that could be handled > via TSO, where could one find such? > > I know about Panvalet, Endevor, SCLM, and Librarian. Are > there any others? Changeman (Seren

Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:04:24 -0500, Jousma, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Looks like the problem was caused by OA19265. Still pretty fresh. I'm >in the process of backing it off. IBM was also able to recreate the >problem. > Scary... ya really have to wonder what kind of testing is done

Re: Souce Control for z/OS

2007-03-08 Thread Hal Merritt
We looked at eventACTION and liked it. We use the free SCLM and it is ok for our immediate needs. http://www.actionsoftware.com/products.htm -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:4

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Robert Justice
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:34:43 -0600, Bob_H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Might be why it is being removed. > Unfortunately however, they are getting rid of the version (3270) that actually works and is the easiest to navigate around. Guess we can't have that now, can we? -

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Mark House
If this is the support we are going to get when they remove the 3270 IBMLink, they should change their motto to :IBM - WE DON'T SERVICE WHAT WE SELL" Mark House (402) 778-1966 Technical Development Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail message and any attachments may contain confidential, pro

Re: IBM's web Face

2007-03-08 Thread Matt Dazzo
Yeap Matt Dazzo Technical Services Publishers Clearing House 516-944-4816 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/8/2007 1:06:34 PM >>> Any one else having problems with IBMLink and ShopzSeries sites today? Sometimes I get logged on sometimes I don't. Our proxy server times out trying to get

Re: Does the "Shark" support MIDAW?

2007-03-08 Thread Frank Krueger
Jan 2105 (ESS 800 and up) with FICON as well as 2107 (DS8000) supports MIDAW . Mit freundlichen Grüßen ... Best regards ... Salutations ... Cordialmente ... Tisztelettel ... Yoroshiku Frank Krueger I/T Specialist ATS High End Disk European Storage Competence Center IBM Systems & Technology

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
If we are unable to open any problem tickets then IBM's reliability numbers will look REAL good! Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bob_?= Sent: Thursday, March 0

Re: Souce Control for z/OS

2007-03-08 Thread Alan C. Field
"If one needed a source control system that could be handled via TSO, where could one find such?" We use software from these folks: http://www.dcmsi.com/ Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, se

Re: DITTO/Tape Copy Redux

2007-03-08 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
I understand that we are looking for the least expensive solution (free) and buying other tools doesn't appear to be an option for the moment. But I do appreciate the suggestions. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive ac

Re: Souce Control for z/OS

2007-03-08 Thread Daniel Allen
There is Changeman/ZMF from Serena Software, Inc. Daniel Allen Sr. System Programmer Serena Software, Inc. 13713 Pinto Lane Lodi, CA 95240 800-699-6850 ext. 11241 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Serena Software, Inc. www.serena.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMA

Re: Souce Control for z/OS

2007-03-08 Thread James Robinson
Look into ISPW (www.ispw.com) It is excellent, and lightning fast. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Souce Control for z/OS If one needed a

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bob_?=
That is my point. For years the web version has been broken when most needed. Makes sense to make it the only option... NOT. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wit

Souce Control for z/OS

2007-03-08 Thread Steve Thompson
If one needed a source control system that could be handled via TSO, where could one find such? I know about Panvalet, Endevor, SCLM, and Librarian. Are there any others? The criteria for a source maint system is that it (1) will allow for immediate backout of an update, (2) allow a "delta" repor

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
NO, they are removing the version that works (3270). Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob_H Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBMLIN

IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Alan C. Field
NOT THE 3270 VERSION. It is usually up and working. They are trying to get rid of it, but is much easier to use (for me) than the web based stuff. Mark House I know. Then they have the audacity to tell us this when you log on: "Since ServiceLink VM is being removed, there will be no changes

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Bob_H
Might be why it is being removed. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Mark House stated: NOT THE 3270 VERSION. It is usually up and working. They are trying to get rid of it, but is much easier to use (for me) than the web based stuff. AMEN! It is much(!) easier to navigate and has much better availability than the web. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860)

Re: D37 for PDSE in LNKLIST in SYSPLEX

2007-03-08 Thread Jousma, David
I went back and reread the original post. It is not entirely clear that the dataset you are applying maintenance to is NOT in use by at least 1 lpar. The instructions I gave are only good if the dataset you are applying maintenance to is on a volume that is not in use. I hope you are not applyin

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/8/2007 11:44:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >seek CCW has six byte length ... bbcchh Right. And what device, other than the 2321, ever had meaningful non-zero values for the bb part of bbcchh? In other words, if there had never been any 2

Re: D37 for PDSE in LNKLIST in SYSPLEX

2007-03-08 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark House > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:07 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: D37 for PDSE in LNKLIST in SYSPLEX > > > Summary: We need to delete a file that has enqueue's on

Re: D37 for PDSE in LNKLIST in SYSPLEX

2007-03-08 Thread Jousma, David
Since the dataset you want to "mess" with is on a different volume than the running one. Go to ispf 3.4 and list the dataset with a volser reference. Do a rename on the dataset to .old or something. You will get a panel that says it is enqueued, but bypassable. Press enter, and the rename will o

Re: IBM's web Face

2007-03-08 Thread Andy White
I was just able to get in Andy Internet: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" wrote on 03/08/2007 01:06:34 PM: > Any one else having problems with IBMLink and ShopzSeries sites today? > > Sometimes I get logged on sometimes I don't. Our proxy server times out > trying to g

Re: D37 for PDSE in LNKLIST in SYSPLEX

2007-03-08 Thread John P Kalinich
Mark House of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 03/08/2007 12:06:30 PM: > Summary: We need to delete a file that has enqueue's on the DSN in > multiple LPAR's on the same Z/900. Any help would be appreciated. > > In performing SMP/E processing we ran into a D37-04 on the CBC.SCCNCMP > t

Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread Mark House
NOT THE 3270 VERSION. It is usually up and working. They are trying to get rid of it, but is much easier to use (for me) than the web based stuff. Mark House (402) 778-1966 Technical Development Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail message and any attachments may contain confidential, prop

Does the "Shark" support MIDAW?

2007-03-08 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Hi, 1° Does “Shark” (= 2105 Enterprise Storage Server) (or 2105 Model 800) (or ESS 800) support MIDAW? I'm pretty sure it does; but I can't find an official piece of paper from IBM. Something like an announcement letter, or a sales manual entry. (It's difficult with all these names such as sha

WORST CASE SCENARIO - BACKOUT OF MCDS CHANGE -

2007-03-08 Thread willie bunter
Hi, I am planning to implement the MCDS in VSAM EXTEND MODE. The MCDS is not shared by any other partition. I have place my backout procedures should my preliminary tests fail. My question is what should I do if I have a problem with DFHSM later in the day? For example I will impl

Re: IBM's web Face

2007-03-08 Thread Greg Keuken
I have also been having problems with IBM sites today... ShopZ Partnerworld IBMLink I downloaded Service yesterday morning without issues though. Greg -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan C. Field Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2

IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

2007-03-08 Thread =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bob_?=
Wondering if you folks are also affected? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/i

Re: IBM's web Face

2007-03-08 Thread Dean Montevago
Yup. Can't logon to IBMLINK. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan C. Field Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBM's web Face Any one else having problems with IBMLink and ShopzSeries sites

IBM's web Face

2007-03-08 Thread Alan C. Field
Any one else having problems with IBMLink and ShopzSeries sites today? Sometimes I get logged on sometimes I don't. Our proxy server times out trying to get to ShopzSeries. I ordered PUT0702 for internet delivery and trying to download it I get "connection reset by peer" - every time I try and d

D37 for PDSE in LNKLIST in SYSPLEX

2007-03-08 Thread Mark House
Summary: We need to delete a file that has enqueue's on the DSN in multiple LPAR's on the same Z/900. Any help would be appreciated. In performing SMP/E processing we ran into a D37-04 on the CBC.SCCNCMP that resides on a SYSRES pack. The same DSN is used on four other LPAR'S on a z/900 runni

Re: TN3270

2007-03-08 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:45 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: TN3270 > > > With the end of life announcement by Cisco for their CIP/CPA TN3270 > Server pr

TN3270

2007-03-08 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
With the end of life announcement by Cisco for their CIP/CPA TN3270 Server product offering, what have other customers implemented, or are considering to replace this function? TIA, Jon Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 - This e-mail may co

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-08 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote: The 2321 was only responsible for the bb part of the mbbcchhr. The m was, and still is, the extent number in the DEB. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL i.e. seek CCW has six byte length ... bbcchh CKD DASD command codes ... from my q&d conversion of gcard

Re: Tape Backup issues.

2007-03-08 Thread Hal Merritt
We looked at that solution a couple of times, but never pursued it because the best possible network times were painfully slow. Even local ESCON drives can't do the job in our tiny shop. We are using the CNT boxes in a XRC solution but still have problems getting enough glitch free bandwidth. H

Re: Moving data between Sysplex's

2007-03-08 Thread Hal Merritt
I agree with Dave in that movement of production data would be restricted at best. That said, we use Flashcopy with good results. We also use FTP over Hipersockets. (Note: it seems that good FTP performance requires the proper settings be used, such as TYPE E, MODE C, and MTU appropriate for th

Re: General question on licensing "obsolete" IBM products

2007-03-08 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 8, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Charles Mills wrote: The current LE "COBOL Migration" manual lists a fair amount of analysis and work to determine and or provide for upward compatibility. I believe them. When a customer has hundreds of "not recently touched" business- critical programs, and no

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/8/2007 9:50:22 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Andreas F. Geissbuehler wrote: The venerable IBM 2321 A.K.A "the strip picker", the one responsible for the mbb in "mbbcchhr" -- did CP/67 or VM ever support the 2321 ? The 2321 was only responsibl

Re: JES2 Exit 5 on z/OS 1.7

2007-03-08 Thread Dave Danner
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:19:30 -0600, Joe Mscisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Has anyone experienced problems assembling JES2 Exit 5 on 1.7? Is SYS1.MODGEN included in your SYSLIB concatenation? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: TSSO and z/OS 1.8

2007-03-08 Thread David Gosse
Hello, I have pulled the latest TSSO version from the Updates section of the CBT site. I am trying to assemble it using z/OS 1.8 macros. The assembly of TSSO fails with an undefined symbol UCMMCENT. The assembly of TSSOSS09 fails with an undefined symbol WQEUCMID. Has anyone else updated TSSO t

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-08 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Andreas F. Geissbuehler wrote: The venerable IBM 2321 A.K.A "the strip picker", the one responsible for the mbb in "mbbcchhr" -- did CP/67 or VM ever support the 2321 ? re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#51 FBA rant addenda and more topic drift. the reason given for periodically ropin

Re: Moving data between Sysplex's

2007-03-08 Thread Jousma, David
Gerard, We are also pursuing this as a result of banking requirements here in the US regarding test access to production data(copied or direct)- data security. We are going to provide a mechanism to do this most likely utilizing dss dump, ftp, then dss restore(in some fashion - maybe panel driven

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