Re: Dirichlet

2007-04-11 Thread Bruce Hewson
Introduce any number of trees to a cyclone, and any that survive upright is likely to be totally denuded of leaves.leaving ;-) many trees with zero leaves. you get to see for miles through what used to be heavily forested countryside. Regards Bruce Hewson

Re: CICS recycle (was Effects of Linux...)

2007-04-11 Thread R.S.
Bruno Sugliani wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:29:20 -0400, Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You really start and stop CICS every day? We would get shot if we tried that. Jon Let me be more precise : NO ! But i do it every night :-)) i am just a bit luckier than you . It just depends on

Re: DFSMSDSS-ADRDSSU

2007-04-11 Thread John Kington
Amlan Hi, I am using ADRDSSU to unload a old backup dataset. Since the backup was taken long back all the datasets inside have a very old creation date. When this dump is unloaded, the created datasets also gets the same old creation date. This is causing problem because they get deleted

Re: CICS recycle (was Effects of Linux...)

2007-04-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
Well, we do still do this for most of our CICS regions, hold over from as long ago as pre OS390 days. We used to need to stop/start the inits they run on also. It's not needed anymore (CICS memory leaks are mostly gone), but it's convienent for some back-ups and some defragging.

Re: Z/VM,Linux

2007-04-11 Thread Timothy Sipples
I agree with Rich's comments. In addition, as a general rule, newer versions of z/VM and Linux incorporate efficiency gains. Said another way, you'll probably need less hardware capacity to sustain 100 Linux guests if you use newer z/VM and newer Linux compared to old versions. Also, newer

Re: DFSMSDSS-ADRDSSU

2007-04-11 Thread Robert2 Gensler
Hi Amlan, Have a look at appendix D of the DFSMSdss Storage Administration Guilde: Changing Creation Date Default Settings during Logical Data Set COPY and RESTORE (OW19618). This is a patch byte to control how DFSMSdss handles setting the creation date on data sets it allocates. This may

original JCL via SAPI

2007-04-11 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi I would like to get back the original JCL (as SDSF SJ does) via SAPI interface. -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111

Re: The Mainframe in 10 Years...

2007-04-11 Thread Timothy Sipples
Wow, what a great question Alan. I think I start from several likely safe assumptions: 1. The world's transaction volumes will never stop growing. 2. The world's data access needs will never stop growing. 3. Nobody will figure out how to work around the speed of light as a physical

Re: original JCL via SAPI

2007-04-11 Thread Klaus Stanislawiak
Hi Miklos, the SAPI (SYSOUT Application Interface) only provides support to read SYSOUT data sets. What you are looking for (DDNAME JESJCLIN) is not a SYSOUT data set, so you won't be able to read it through SAPI. If you are on a JES2 system, try the Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) Interface, that

CRC Checksum Calculation

2007-04-11 Thread Amlan Prasad
Hi, Is there any COBOL code or subroutine available to do the CRC checksum calculation? If no, please advise. Thanks, Amlan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: The Mainframe in 10 Years...

2007-04-11 Thread IBMsysProg
Sometime ago I read a question from [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] if a sharp sudden unexpected pain would often result in a verbal response? Now Mr. Bain from a company with ISAM in its name wonders about where the mainframe will be in 10 years. I wonder how familiar Mr. Bain is

Re: Effects of Linux on z...ISV support and z/OS (Was: IBM to the PCM market)

2007-04-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/09/2007 at 03:21 PM, Bruno Sugliani [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As for security , there are more hackers in the world than MVS sysprogs or MVS installation on this earth . MVS applications do not normally run user-supplied code; m$ applications do. That's the main

Re: original JCL via SAPI

2007-04-11 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Thank you. I will look the SDSB description Klaus Stanislawiak wrote: Hi Miklos, the SAPI (SYSOUT Application Interface) only provides support to read SYSOUT data sets. What you are looking for (DDNAME JESJCLIN) is not a SYSOUT data set, so you won't be able to read it through SAPI. If

Re: CRC Checksum Calculation

2007-04-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
On Wednesday 11 April 2007 08:03, Amlan Prasad wrote: Hi, Is there any COBOL code or subroutine available to do the CRC checksum calculation? If no, please advise. Thanks, Amlan It doesn't do checksum but ICSF has API's for other types of hashes. One-Way Hash Generate (CSNBOWH and

Re: The Mainframe in 10 Years...

2007-04-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:05:40 -0400 IBMsysProg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Sometime ago I read a question from [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] if a sharp sudden unexpected pain would often result in a verbal response? Now Mr. Bain from a company with ISAM in its name wonders about

Re: CICS recycle (was Effects of Linux...)

2007-04-11 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Radoslaw, I agree. We recycle many test/development regions daily both to pickup changes and because they do tend to become less stable over time with active development and testing. Production regions only come down for releases or IPLs and may be up for months at a time. I just peeked and

Re: original JCL via SAPI

2007-04-11 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi If I understand correctly , I got the browse token from SAPI , and I can make a dynalloc for the dsn : user.jobname.jobid.JESJCLIN Klaus Stanislawiak wrote: Hi Miklos, the SAPI (SYSOUT Application Interface) only provides support to read SYSOUT data sets. What you are looking for

Re: RACF and Member Level Protection

2007-04-11 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RACF and Member Level Protection snip That's all well and good. But, the suggestion was to

Capacity Planning 101

2007-04-11 Thread Carol Srna
Hello. It has been sometime since I've done Capacity Planning Tuning so I am looking for web-sites (CMG), papers, etc. that I can study/read to brush away the cobwebs; get ideas for a plan, strategy. Any advice, tips, etc. will be greatly appreciated. I think you have to be a CMG member to

Re: Capacity Planning 101

2007-04-11 Thread Dave Thorn
We (CMG) are in the planning stages of making past papers available. Stay tuned. In the meantime, you can purchase a CMG membership for $175, which includes the proceedings (on CD) from CMG2006. And now is a good time to start working on your management to let you attend this year's conference!

Re: VSAM Extent Reduction - Any way to disable for selected jobs

2007-04-11 Thread Clark, Kevin
Mike, I went back to the storage guy. He said that the problem was with the absence of candidate volumes being defined. Did some ALTER ADDVOL(s) and all is well in the SHARK pool again. Thanks. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: Rexx to Extract XCF Structures

2007-04-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:19:24 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a Rexx exec that can read the XCF dataset and extract the definitions needed to re-create it for DR purposes? Don't you keep the JCL used to create all your SYSPLEX policies? Easy to do with CFRM as

Interesting Mainframe piece

2007-04-11 Thread Gary Green
Discusses MS HIS 2006. http://mainframe.typepad.com/blog/2007/04/microsoft_mainf.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: Interesting Mainframe piece

2007-04-11 Thread Steve Comstock
Gary Green wrote: Discusses MS HIS 2006. http://mainframe.typepad.com/blog/2007/04/microsoft_mainf.html Did you notice the author was Timothy Sipples? -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com ** Spring Promotion ** 10% - 15% off for

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Marna WALLE
Hello David, I would hope that Ed and I weren't saying different things, but there had been relatively newer information added to II13894 (which was copied here) on the topic, so perhaps that was the difference. Before this information was added to II13894 (which said that the recall would *not*

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
It would be nice if IBM could add that support to HSM now instead of waiting for the zOS release that removes support. Murphy says that once we clean up all DASD datasets with these attributes someone will recall datasets with the attributes right before we go into production with the new

Re: Interesting Mainframe piece

2007-04-11 Thread Gary Green
Yeah, but I did not want to bring it to anyone's attention... ;) On Wed Apr 11 8:01 , Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: Gary Green wrote: Discusses MS HIS 2006. http://mainframe.typepad.com/blog/2007/04/microsoft_mainf.html Did you notice the author was Timothy Sipples? -Steve

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Rugen, Len
I've wondered if it will ever happen, the fix to HSM may cost more than the benefit of the fix. What was the benefit again? Just disk space? Any dataset that has been reorged in the last few years doesn't have the obsolete options. However, the solution to a recently recalled dataset in your

Re: The Mainframe in 10 Years...

2007-04-11 Thread Howard Brazee
On 11 Apr 2007 05:46:57 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerhard Adam) wrote: 1. There is a limit to the complexity a personal system can tolerate due to the lack of expertise in the general user, so this becomes a limiting factor in deployment. These systems will tend to remain portals into larger

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Richards.Bob
Mark, It already is a benign issue. The three keywords are ignored. I would rather IBM spend their copious free time working on solving *real* problems. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent:

GRS CNS apar OA11382

2007-04-11 Thread J Ellis
Has anyone applied the ptf for apar OA11382 on a 1.7 system that allows you to move the grs/cns to a different system via operator command? It was retro- fitted from z/OS 1.8. Work as adverstised ? brought everything to a screeching halt ?

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
It most likely won't happen, but if: 1) All DASD Datasets are fixed. 2) Install new OS without support. 3) User(s) restore datasets from HSM to DASD with IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE attributes. 4) Implement OS without support 5) User can't access datasets Will HRECOVER then perform the attribute

Re: re IF/THEN/ELSE/ENDIF

2007-04-11 Thread Jack Kelly
snip A propos of the deficiencies of IF/THEN/ELSE/ENDIF JCL processing Paul Gilmartin writes: snip Amen. It's to the point of 'why read anyrthing with Gilmartin's name on it'. Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Rugen, Len
That gave me a headache... For better or worse, I test new OS versions in a LPAR with fully shared DASD, catalogs, RACF and etc. (NJE not MAS). What I envision if this ever comes to pass is that testing will cause way more problems than production. Those test datasets are the ones living on ML2.

Re: re IF/THEN/ELSE/ENDIF

2007-04-11 Thread Robert Bardos
snip A propos of the deficiencies of IF/THEN/ELSE/ENDIF JCL processing Paul Gilmartin writes: snip Amen. It's to the point of 'why read anyrthing with Gilmartin's name on it'. Jack Kelly Simply because more than only once he has something to say. It's by exposing ourselves to

Re: original JCL via SAPI

2007-04-11 Thread Klaus Stanislawiak
Hi again, not quite so, SAPI is not involved in this process at all. Please see Appendix B of the JES2 Initialization and Tuning Guide for a description of the SDSB Interface: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/HAS2A350/APPENDIX1.2.4?SHELF=HAS2BK61DT=20060630010801

Re: GRS CNS apar OA11382

2007-04-11 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi, We had been tracking this and have applied it along with a lot of other service to a SYSRES set that is rotating into our test partitions this coming Friday. I will let you know next week how it has gone. I don't understand why when different IBM teams are doing functions which reside in

Are there standard IBM dsects for the P-L-O functions that require one?

2007-04-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Or need I write my own? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding

Re: Are there standard IBM dsects for the P-L-O functions that require one?

2007-04-11 Thread Bob Shannon
You need to write your own. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: Are there standard IBM dsects for the P-L-O functions that require one?

2007-04-11 Thread Craddock, Chris
Subject: Are there standard IBM dsects for the P-L-O functions that require one? Or need I write my own? I did not find any and so I wrote my own. You probably ought to do the same. CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: The Mainframe in 10 Years...

2007-04-11 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Bain) writes: I have been asked by my management as well as a couple of clients to try to predict the future of the mainframe. Although I have done some

Re: CRC Checksum Calculation

2007-04-11 Thread Charles Mills
The CBT tape has some callable checksum routines. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CRC Checksum Calculation On Wednesday 11

Re: IF/THEN/ELSE/ENDIF

2007-04-11 Thread Lynd, Eugene (Contractor) (J6C)
An unenforced prohibition is meaningless. Not really, with all due respect to Justice Holmes. The possibility of future enforcement hangs over my guilty head. Specifically, I am testing symbolic parameters in procs, although they are not among the valid operands. For example: PROC

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Richards.Bob
Mark, It WON'T happen. If it does, it will be the biggest break fix IBM will have had in recent memory (20+ years). Anyone else remember the DFP deltas? Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent:

gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread Barkow, Eileen
can one of you gurus out there please shed some light on this, since i am not sure what the answer should be or whether or not this is normal, since these jobs supposedly have been running and working for the last 20 years (although i am not sure if they ever ran at the same time). normally

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: gdg question can one of you gurus out there please shed some light on this, since i am not sure

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread Clark, Kevin
Eileen, If I understand correctly, The GDG BASE is being ENQUEUED. Kevin (not a guru) Clark 3. JOBA remains on the execution queue waiting for the dataset: IEF863I DSN = .PTNT.SASFILE.NEW JOBA IEF099I JOB TBCDAILY WAITING FOR DATA SETS now, why is the IEF863I msg

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: gdg question can one of you gurus out there please shed some light on this, since i am not sure what the

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread David Hanson
I'm no guru but I would say that the JOBB has and ENQUE on the base because you said DISP=OLD with a releative #. If you specified the actual generation by dataset name .GVnn I believe you would be allset. Thanks, Dave Hanson 464-8889

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Thank you Steve, I never knew about the differences in allocation between tape and dasd. Very interesting. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Yes, JOBB did start first, but apparently for the first time in 20 years!! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fletcher, Kevin Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: gdg question Eileen, I

IBM Direct

2007-04-11 Thread Howard Rifkind
Would any one out there have a phone number for IBM Direct. Googled it but can't seem to find a good number...I to buy some KVM cables for our blade centers and they are only available from IBM. Thanks.

Re: IBM Direct

2007-04-11 Thread Gary DiPillo
Have you tried 1-888-SHOP-IBM? Would any one out there have a phone number for IBM Direct. Googled it but can't seem to find a good number...I to buy some KVM cables for our blade centers and they are only available from IBM. Thanks.

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread Bruce Black
IFF the file had been created on DASD you probably would not have seen a problem. BUT because the file was created on a removeable media (TAPE/CART), the CATALOG process does not complete until JOB END (which I would think should be step end, but hey, what do I know?). This happens whether or

Re: IBM Direct

2007-04-11 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks Gary, The directed me to some one else and then to a real IBM direct person. IBM Direct 1-800-388-7080 then opt #2, #1. Just for other folks reference. --- Gary DiPillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried 1-888-SHOP-IBM? Would any one out there have a phone number for IBM

Re: DFHSM cleanup of orphaned MCC records.

2007-04-11 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 22:46 -0500 on 04/10/2007, Ed Gould wrote about Re: DFHSM cleanup of orphaned MCC records.: Robert, I did it a different way as HSM used to choke on 100+ commands at a time. One thing I did was to break it up to say 75 at one time. Good suggestion. Thank you. My suggestion has to do

Re: EMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 10:08 -0400 on 04/11/2007, Mark Jacobs wrote about Re: EMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question: It would be nice if IBM could add that support to HSM now instead of waiting for the zOS release that removes support. Murphy says that once we clean up all DASD datasets with these attributes someone

Re: EMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Bruce Black
QUERY - It is my impression that if I try to allocate a dataset with any of these options, the resulting dataset will get allocated as if they had not been requested (and the Catalog Record will no longer show these options for that dataset [ie: It will reflect the actual allocation status not

When to start security product?

2007-04-11 Thread Mark Yuhas
We use Top Secret. A consultant made a recommendation late last year that Top Secret should be the first task started during the IPL procedure. The Security Administrator has requested this change. Currently, we start Top Secret after JES2 completes its start procedure. I really don't see the

whiny question: Why won't z/OS support the HMC 3270 emulator

2007-04-11 Thread McKown, John
After all, z/VM does. Is z/VM so much superior to z/OS crooked grin? z/OS does support that terrible old HMC system console interface, after all. Or is it all a plan by IBM to sell OSAs configured as OSA-ICC? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-11 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Yuhas Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: When to start security product? We use Top Secret. A consultant made a recommendation late last year that Top

Re: Interesting Mainframe piece

2007-04-11 Thread Ed Gould
On Apr 11, 2007, at 8:56 AM, Gary Green wrote: Discusses MS HIS 2006. http://mainframe.typepad.com/blog/2007/04/microsoft_mainf.html Yea, But look who its written by. Mr (EXCUSE) IBM. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-11 Thread Craddock, Chris
We use Top Secret. A consultant made a recommendation late last year that Top Secret should be the first task started during the IPL procedure. The Security Administrator has requested this change. Currently, we start Top Secret after JES2 completes its start procedure. I really don't see

Re: Rexx to Extract XCF Structures

2007-04-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
DASDONLY logstreams don't require CF structures. I thought those were going away. Also, on the point of 'forgetting' to put JCL for creating logstreams into a production/dr library: 1. Why? 2. That is a dangerous practice for managing production! Do you 'forget' to put your Production VSAM

Extract listing of production datasets

2007-04-11 Thread Robert Fake
I have a need to generate a listing of all production datasets. The way the production datasets are identified is via the 4th byte of the high level qualifier. If the 4th byte is a P, it is production. For example: EGMP.DATASET.ONE and DNUP.DATASET.ONE are production. EGMT.DATASET.ONE and

Re: Extract listing of production datasets

2007-04-11 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Fake Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Extract listing of production datasets I have a need to generate a listing of all production

Re: Extract listing of production datasets

2007-04-11 Thread Imbriale, Donald
From ISPF 3.4, specify a dsname level of %%%P. Then after the list is displayed issue command SAVE PRODDSNS. Similar functionality can be built into a program which calls ISPF services. Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: Extract listing of production datasets

2007-04-11 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imbriale, Donald Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extract listing of production datasets From ISPF 3.4, specify a dsname level of %%%P.

Re: Extract listing of production datasets

2007-04-11 Thread Raymond Noal
Robert, You can try either ISPF 3.4 or ISMF option 2 (data set). Both will allow you to generate a list of data set names using %%%1.** as a filter and then save the resultant list to a data set. Hope this helps. HITACHI  DATA SYSTEMS Raymond E. Noal Senior Technical Engineer Office:

Re: Extract listing of production datasets

2007-04-11 Thread Raymond Noal
Robert, Sorry, must have had a brain cramp - that's option 1 from the ISMF panel and your filter would be (in your case) %%%P.** HITACHI  DATA SYSTEMS Raymond E. Noal Senior Technical Engineer Office: (408) 970 - 7978 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Extract listing of production datasets

2007-04-11 Thread Anthony Saul Babonas
listcat level names from the hlq(s) of choice, then parse. In our case we were matching Top Secret against the catalogs, looking for orphans. Catalog Search Interface would be faster if volume dictates. My favorite parse tools, in preference sequence, are DF/SORT, SAS, REXX. -Original

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-11 Thread Matthew Stitt
I normally start CAS9 first through the subsystem name table member. Then have CAS9 start TSS, then have TSS start everything else, including JES2. On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:28:46 -0400, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use Top Secret. A consultant made a recommendation late last year

Re: Extract listing of production datasets

2007-04-11 Thread Kittendorf, Craig
Do you want to include data sets not cataloged also? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imbriale, Donald Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extract listing of production datasets From

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-11 Thread Anthony Saul Babonas
Nah, the early start of TSS doesn't buy anything useful. Also, if you wait till JES is up you can see TSS output in SDSF, which often contains useful information, and diagnostics. Potayto, Potahto. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: Extract listing of production datasets

2007-04-11 Thread Richards.Bob
In addition to what others have replied, tools like FDREPORT, Catalog RecoveryPlus, T-REX, Catalog Solutions and the good old free Catalog Search Interface (CSI) can do this VERY fast. See SYS1.SAMPLIB members: IGGCSILC IGGCSIRX for examples you can use. CSI is much, much faster than ISMF or 3.4.

IEC145I 413-08

2007-04-11 Thread willie bunter
We are having a difference of opinion with the following issue. A gener job is failing on an IEC145I 413-08. My interpretation is that the job failed because of an I/O error. The other opinion is that because the tape is scratch (in RMM) and it does not permit the processing of a scratch

Re: Extract listing of production datasets

2007-04-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
DCOLLECT and MXG or the language of your choice. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richards.Bob Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extract listing of production datasets In addition

Re: IEC145I 413-08

2007-04-11 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Well, you're kinda both right. It is failing due to an I/O error trying to read the input tape. The reason you're getting the I/O error is that RMM isn't letting you read the scratch tape. So the underlying cause is that it is a scratch tape. So, the other opinion is more right... Rex

Re: IEC145I 413-08

2007-04-11 Thread willie bunter
Can I force RMM to allow me to read the tape even though it is in scratch status? Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you're kinda both right. It is failing due to an I/O error trying to read the input tape. The reason you're getting the I/O error is that RMM isn't letting you read

Re: IEC145I 413-08 (and implications for SMP/E GIMDTS)

2007-04-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, willie bunter said: Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:30:01 -0700 We are having a difference of opinion with the following issue. A gener job is failing on an IEC145I 413-08. My interpretation is that the job failed because of an I/O error. The other opinion is that

Re: IEC145I 413-08 (and implications for SMP/E GIMDTS)

2007-04-11 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Gil, I can answer the question as to why somebody would want to read a scratch tape. The tape management system scratched a master tape due to configuration rules. Later, before the tape was overwritten, it was realized that the data on the tape was still valid and needed to be kept. One way

Re: IEC145I 413-08

2007-04-11 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Willie, Can you change the tape from SCRATCH to MASTER? If it is changed in RMM to MASTER you should be able to read it. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:58 PM To:

Re: Extract listing of production datasets

2007-04-11 Thread Clark, Kevin
Bob, You did say easy. On the ISPF 3.4 Enter P for print dataset list Enter %%%P.*in the DSNAME LEVEL I would only do this online with less than 10,000 datasets or so. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: IEC145I 413-08

2007-04-11 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IEC145I 413-08 Can I force RMM to allow me to read the tape even though it is in scratch status? snip

Re: IEC145I 413-08

2007-04-11 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/11/2007 4:30:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: REQUEST FAILED BY DFSMSrmm IEC145I 413-08,IFG0194K,O00130J,STEP01,SYSUT1,4611,,AMR4.PSEL$08.PFG98.Y2K.DRTES Well tell RMM it's a foreign tape then use last seventeen bytes as DSN and go to 2,NL

Re: IEC145I 413-08

2007-04-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Ed Finnell said: Subject: Re: IEC145I 413-08 In a message dated 4/11/2007 4:30:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: REQUEST FAILED BY DFSMSrmm IEC145I 413-08,IFG0194K,O00130J,STEP01,SYSUT1,4611,,AMR4.PSEL$08.PFG98.Y2K.DRTES Well tell RMM

Re: whiny question: Why won't z/OS support the HMC 3270 emulator

2007-04-11 Thread W. Kevin Kelley
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:02:28 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After all, z/VM does. Is z/VM so much superior to z/OS crooked grin? z/OS does support that terrible old HMC system console interface, after all. Or is it all a plan by IBM to sell OSAs configured as OSA-ICC? John, We've

Re: IEC145I 413-08

2007-04-11 Thread willie bunter
I tried the bypass label (2,blp) but it still hammered me. Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a recent note, Ed Finnell said: Subject: Re: IEC145I 413-08 In a message dated 4/11/2007 4:30:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: REQUEST FAILED BY DFSMSrmm

Re: The Mainframe in 10 Years...

2007-04-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Weren't there lots of bipolar technology mainframes running in early 1997 Yes, but we can't hold it against the poor mainframes! We still can't deliver PROZAC electronically. Sorry, couldn't resist! - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Effects of Linux on z...ISV support and z/OS (Was: IBM to the PCM market)

2007-04-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
Ted MacNEIL wrote: You really start and stop CICS every day? We would get shot if we tried that. We do. I hate it, but we have a bunch of jobs that cannot run with CICS up! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! --

Re: The Mainframe in 10 Years...

2007-04-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
You might want to do a quick memory refresh. G MVCL was a 370 op-code; 360 only had the MVC. Big G ---snip-- Sometime ago I read a question from [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] if a sharp sudden unexpected pain would often result

Re: IEC145I 413-08

2007-04-11 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/11/2007 5:46:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tried the bypass label (2,blp) but it still hammered me. CA-1 needs EXPDT=99365 to tell it to ignore tape management, don't know equivalent in RMM(thought it was honored there too?) Also for

Re: IMBED/REPLICATE/KEYRANGE Question

2007-04-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip-- . Anyone else remember the DFP deltas? unsnip- Thanks a bunch for restarting my nightmares! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
My IBM mainframe career has very limited CICS/IMS/DB2 exposure, and a lot of IDMS exposure. Non sequiter! What's the maximum number of IDMS licences. You deliberately ducked! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip--- can one of you gurus out there please shed some light on this, since i am not sure what the answer should be or whether or not this is normal, since these jobs supposedly have been running and working for the last 20 years

Re: The Mainframe in 10 Years...

2007-04-11 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Binyamin Dissen) writes: ISAM did not die. It changed into KSDS. Indexed-sequential access is used on almost every platform, some even now

Re: When to start security product?

2007-04-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip-- We use Top Secret. A consultant made a recommendation late last year that Top Secret should be the first task started during the IPL procedure. The Security Administrator has requested this change. Currently, we start Top Secret after JES2

Re: Extract listing of production datasets

2007-04-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip-- I have a need to generate a listing of all production datasets. The way the production datasets are identified is via the 4th byte of the high level qualifier. If the 4th byte is a P, it is production. For example: EGMP.DATASET.ONE

Re: Extract listing of production datasets

2007-04-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Do you want to include data sets not cataloged also? Do people still have that? For 15+ years, my/our attitude has been: If it ain't catalogued, it don't exist! With terrabytes of disk, how do you identify them? - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Effects of Linux on z...ISV support and z/OS (Was: IBM to the PCM market)

2007-04-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
One of them is a batch processor that can talk to CICS, telling it to close files, open files, etc. All well and good, but the snarl called production data is so complex that we would never be able to find a combo that can close the appropriate files and still allow something to run! The app

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