Re: Running REXX program in a batch job

2007-11-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:15:03 -0600, Joel C. Ewing wrote: I can't conceive of any rational reason why a sysadmin or auditor would want to restrict batch TMP usage. It buys you no power or data access that could not be derived by other means, except perhaps for the somewhat dubious ability to

Re: Increase File size on system file held in LLA and XCFAS

2007-11-17 Thread Peter Relson
How can I remove the enqueue so I can increase and copy the file. Removing the ENQ is easy. Increasing the size of an existing data set for which the system has obtained ENQs is not supported, and you do so at your own risk. The ENQ's are in place so that you do NOT do this. If the system is

Re: REFM=VB Binary upload problem

2007-11-17 Thread Tommy Tsui
why the FTP command does not works.QUOTE SITE RDW RECFM=VB LRECL=1024 anyone know why On 11/16/07, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Magee Sent: Friday, November 16,

Re: Running REXX program in a batch job

2007-11-17 Thread Lindy Mayfield
I'm just curious, what sorts of things can a Rexx program can do that doesn't interact with TSO or ISPF (or...)? I tried, but I couldn't think of much, so I must have something wrong. Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: Running REXX program in a batch job

2007-11-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:05:50 +0100, Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just curious, what sorts of things can a Rexx program can do that doesn't interact with TSO or ISPF (or...)? I tried, but I couldn't think of much, so I must have something wrong. Lindy The same sort of things you

Re: Running REXX program in a batch job

2007-11-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:05:50 +0100, Lindy Mayfield wrote: I'm just curious, what sorts of things can a Rexx program can do that doesn't interact with TSO or ISPF (or...)? I tried, but I couldn't think of much, so I must have something wrong. See: Title: z/OS V1R7.0 Using REXX and z/OS UNIX

Re: Running REXX program in a batch job

2007-11-17 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Ok fair enough. (-: I misunderstood then. I made the assumption that no TSO commands included EXECIO and that no TSO segment included also no OMVS segment. --- (You can call Rexx programs from SAS very easily by the way. For example I made a simple hack to IGGCSIRX where you can wildcard

Re: Newspaper: IBM Invests $5M in Illinois State Univ.

2007-11-17 Thread Mark Post
I got a bounce on this, so resending. Apologies if it made it through the first time. On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 2:18 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Ummm Hopefully, you are aware that you are addressing ex-NIU Professor and long-time SHARE

Re: Running REXX program in a batch job

2007-11-17 Thread Ed Gould
On Nov 17, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Joel C. Ewing wrote: I've always assumed there was slightly less overhead in running batch REXX without the TSO TMP, provided you didn't need any TSO commands or ISPF services - but I suspect this overhead is minimal. I believe you also avoid the need for

Re: Newspaper: IBM Invests $5M in Illinois State Univ.

2007-11-17 Thread Michael Stack
At 10:46 AM 11/16/2007, you wrote: ... Hopefully, you are aware that IBM does not control SHARE in any way. It is a user group, made up of volunteers who are constantly scrambling for other volunteers to help out. If any faculty from NIU would like to help, I'm very sure they won't be

Re: Newspaper: IBM Invests $5M in Illinois State Univ.

2007-11-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:27:49 -0700, Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I listen to everybody, until I'm shown they're not worth listening to, so that's not a problem for me. I'm just a lowly Deputy Project Manager for SHARE, so I haven't run into Mike in that arena. Given his long term

Re: Newspaper: IBM Invests $5M in Illinois State Univ.

2007-11-17 Thread Edward Jaffe
Patrick O'Keefe wrote: Being a Deputy Project Manager you would at lease run into Mike at SHARE's Team Time, but perhaps you are not associating the name and face. A recent picture of the Professor: http://www.kcats.org/ -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century

Re: Newspaper: IBM Invests $5M in Illinois State Univ.

2007-11-17 Thread Mark Post
On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 4:46 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Stack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snkp- It wasn't the zNextGen Project itself to which I referred. The session I had in mind was run by the Academic Initiative IBMers, and NIU faculty were, in fact, turned away by the

Re: Newspaper: IBM Invests $5M in Illinois State Univ.

2007-11-17 Thread Mark Post
On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 6:03 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- ... but perhaps you are not associating the name and face. A recent picture of the Professor: http://www.kcats.org/ Oh, Jeez. He was our last Board Buddy. :( I liked him. Hi

Re: Are any of us this desperate?

2007-11-17 Thread Gary Green
Ya know... This is NOT the first time that I failed to think of that. :( -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Are any of us this

COBANAL new beta version

2007-11-17 Thread Roland Schiradin
Based on the input of some user I made a large change to COBANAL (file321 at www.cbttape.org) As of these weekend it's been mailed to my betateam. Feel free to contact if you like this and would be also join the betateam. Regards Roland

Re: Newspaper: IBM Invests $5M in Illinois State Univ.

2007-11-17 Thread Michael Stack
At 06:22 PM 11/17/2007, you wrote: ... Your note only talked about an MP3K at NIU. Does NIU currently have a z/Architecture machine? No, and it likely never will, as the last NIU mainframe will probably be gone in a couple of years. In fact, my new job is my first opportunity to write code

Re: Running REXX program in a batch job

2007-11-17 Thread Joel C. Ewing
But the whole point it seems to me is that with batch TSO we are talking about what can be done by someone who already has the ability to submit a batch job. If you have batch job capability you don't have to execute batch TMP to be able to allocate datasets, as that can already be done via

Re: Are any of us this desperate?

2007-11-17 Thread Graeme Gibson
.. repeating part of a post from back in July '07,: * ** Follow the link and watch the video ** * Sounds like a way to prove there is no one to fill technical jobs in America so they NEED to either send the job

Re: Running REXX program in a batch job

2007-11-17 Thread Joel C. Ewing
We don't turn REXX or batch TMP loose as a general tool for Applications development to write code for production batch, but batch REXX, including batch REXX that runs in batch TSO or batch ISPF environments, has been frequently used by Technical Services to quickly implement a number of

Re: Running REXX program in a batch job

2007-11-17 Thread Ed Gould
On Nov 17, 2007, at 11:05 PM, Joel C. Ewing wrote: We don't turn REXX or batch TMP loose as a general tool for Applications development to write code for production batch, but batch REXX, including batch REXX that runs in batch TSO or batch ISPF environments, has been frequently used by

Re: Running REXX program in a batch job

2007-11-17 Thread Edward Jaffe
Ed Gould wrote: Interesting. I guess that works in your environment. In the environments I have worked in there is too much political stuff going on and the finger pointing gets rather well pointed. (sorry about the pun). They were probably holding their pointing fingers and thumb in the