You might take a look at the following channel extenders:
Brocade Edge M3000
Ciena CN 2000
- - - - -
Timothy Sipples
IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect
Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z
Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTEC
Why don't you try this one?
It's a bit long, but...
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=0&dc=DA400&q1=Language+Environment+within+CICS+TS&uid=swg27006638&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&cc=us&lang=en
Cheers
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:13:00 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CICS/TS 2.3 a
Without knowing *where* what Mark Thomen said is now documented, the
restriction still applies. Go to SDSF DA screen, look at all asids and sort
them by asid. There will be an asid in the upper 20 not used (in my case it was
x'10'). That was limited function CAS, the one only capable of accessin
At 23:25 -0400 on 05/14/2008, Gary Green wrote about Re: Mainframe
programming vs the Web:
I did not know about the sequels. Thanks.
The three books are Colossus, The Fall of Colossus, and Colossus and
the Crab. Amazon Marketplace has copies that will run you less than
$4 a piece (plus the
I did not know about the sequels. Thanks.
Oh, my son says the movie is available on Netflix. He promised to add it to
his list and perhaps move it towards the top.
Gary Green
I can use all the help I can get with my fight against cancer! Please
support my efforts!
Thank you.
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Distinguished IBMers that might be lurking,
(especially of the CATALOG ADDRESS SPACE-knowledgeable variety)
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:55, Mark Thomen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> THIS RESTRICTION HAS NOT BEEN REMOVED! Until CAS is "full function",
> which doesn't occur until after Master Schedule
About the XMI info - thanks.
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Graham,
I had to ask. ;)
(snip)
Craig - I can't read CBT775; its a
I will be out of the office starting 05/14/2008 and will not return until
05/19/2008.
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Since we provide our own DR from one enterprise data center to another, we
have the luxury of knowing exactly the characteristics of the CFs in the
recovery environment. That allows to include both production and DR CFs in
one CFRM policy and to include them in the PREFLIST for all structures.
That
These are certainly viable options for long distance channel extension. We
also used both NSC and CNT in the past to support tape and disk. That's why
I can say with some certainty that the cost of either approach for a single
tape drive would be very high. There's got to a more economical solution
Arthur,
We developed our own program for this function and it incorporates a SLEEP
function. Here is a code snip from the program:
A010 DS0H
GET SYSIN,CMDIN
CLI CMDIN,C'*'
Are you looking for something specific or just general snooping?
I have used the GOOGLE link for searching in TSO-REXX
http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.tsorexx/topics?lnk=rgr
Lizette
[>] --> Snip
Does anyone know the location to access the CLIST and/or REXX lists
archives? REXX g
We use the former Inrange ( then CNT, now Brocade ) 8200 Channel
Extenders. These are older machines and Brocade plans to remove then from
service support in 2009. We have BUS/TAG and ESCON interface cards in
the 'remote site' machines, which gives us multiple connection possibilities
for
th
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1°
Looking for concise (!) OPERATOR-oriented manual(s)to manage & drive CICS, DB2
and IMS
instead of thesejust PARTLY oriented operator manuals, which are much too
overloaded for them:
SC18-7416-05 DB2 UDB for z/OS V8 --- Com
At 14:34 -0400 on 05/13/2008, Gary Green wrote about Re: Mainframe
programming vs the Web:
Are you certain it was a DOS system. I thought it was an MFT, or
MVT, and "housed" in a 165/95, was it...?
It has been so long I forget. I'd have to locate my copy (which I
think is boxed away) to che
At 15:05 -0400 on 05/13/2008, Daniel McLaughlin wrote about Re:
Mainframe programming vs the Web:
["The Forbin Project"] Great movie!
The book (and its two sequels which explain why Colossus did what it
did - It had detected an external threat and was defending Earth
against it) was even be
On Wed, 14 May 2008 15:42:47 -0500, Field, Alan C. wrote:
>For DR we used to do this but for the last couple of years we define our
>home CFs (CF1 and CF2) in the CFRM policy. We also define the DR CFs
>(CF3 and CF4) in the same policy and in the structure preflist put
>(CF1,CF2,CF3,CF4),
>
>At ho
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/09/2008
at 09:20 AM, "F. J. Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Anyway, I've been asked if I can provide banners
If you can read an FDR dump I may have a "bird"[1] for 3277 under TSO. Or
Gerhard might have a copy more conveniently at hand.
If you just want block l
Miklos Szigetvari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/14/2008
06:56:39 AM:
> In the dump I see only the IEAVAR00 (RCT) and IEAVTSDT (dump task).
> For this application, it is happening only if I start as an STC, if I
> start as batch job, it complets normally for the STOP command.
>
> Rob Scott wrot
For DR we used to do this but for the last couple of years we define our
home CFs (CF1 and CF2) in the CFRM policy. We also define the DR CFs
(CF3 and CF4) in the same policy and in the structure preflist put
(CF1,CF2,CF3,CF4),
At home the structures allocate in CF1 and CF2. When we go to DR they
This is a really important point. I have been involved with numerous DR tests
for my employers over the past several years, and ONLY delete / define the
CFRM Couple data set. That is, the LOGR and the SYSPLEX couple data sets
are NOT deleted or modified - only the CFRM Couple data set gets del
Ward, Mike S wrote:
Following the provided link gave me an error.
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Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:26 AM
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I'll also r
Following the provided link gave me an error.
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Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:26 AM
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I'll also recommend following Whi
On 14 May 2008 12:25:27 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
(Message-ID:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jack Kelly) wrote:
Does anyone know the location to access the CLIST and/or
REXX lists archives? REXX group seems to be
bit.listserv.tsorexx but I can't get to the archives.
You're r
On Wed, 14 May 2008 13:43:55 -0500, Tom Schmidt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>We, too, experienced this problem in DR testing. I chose to recreate the
>problem - and FIX it
>
>My DR view is that that "clean shutdowns" are for whimps. Perfect the error
>recovery path and skip everything else.
On Wed, 14 May 2008 12:14:15 -0400, Arthur T.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...
> Isn't it time to kill this thread? I can't see any
>connection between the last half dozen posts (at least) and
>mainframes.
>...
I agree that this thread is seriously off-topic, but I'd like to comment
that I'
Ah... Kicking and scratching all the way, huh...
On Wed May 14 13:56 , 'McKown, John' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]','','','')">[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Green
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:53
Does anyone know the location to access the CLIST and/or REXX lists
archives? REXX group seems to be bit.listserv.tsorexx but I can't get to
the archives. CLIST seems to be a loss cause?
Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)
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For
>Because ...
>I once had an operator ring me because an IPL failed - after a maint shutdown
>of the site.
>I told him to go read the change doco, and let me go back to sleep.
>All the change management was on MVS filesystems .
I had a similar problem, in 1981.
All our start up procedures, in
On Wed, 14 May 2008 12:30:41 -0400, Gary Green wrote:
>than the mainframe. Or so it was reported back in January...
>
>http://redmondmag.com/features/article.asp?editorialsid=2400#reliable
>
>But disputed...
>
>Watch the wrap.
>
>http://serverspecs.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/05/13/vmware-esx-more-
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Green
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:53 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: estimating number of records.
>
> If it the file were VSAM, could you not call the CSI to get
>
On Wed, 14 May 2008 11:36:34 -0700 (PDT), in
bit.listserv.ibm-main
(Message-ID:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a shutdown routine that submits a bunch of MVS
commands ie(/*
$VS,'STOP RMF.RMF).
The problem I have is I have a child/parent relationship
and the child
MUST
If it the file were VSAM, could you not call the CSI to get that information,
somewhat, directly?
On Wed May 14 13:49 , 'McKown, John' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]','','','')">[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:19:34 +0200, Barbara Nitz wrote:
>Given that we had done the exact same thing in the past, I don't think that
there is *any* way to do 'cleanup' of the old structures. I tried all of the
force
commands way back when, they all got rejected. (And as that was a test
plex, I
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:02 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: estimating number of records.
>
> 2008/5/14 Gary Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Well, disk dat
On Tue, 13 May 2008 14:42:12 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote:
>As I said in a previous post, we've previously experienced this problem
>only in DR testing where the mirroring connection is brutally interrupted
>on purpose. In the case of CEC upgrade/replacement, all systems would be
>shut down cleanly
Okay, okay, you found the flaw in my suggestion...
grumble, grumble, grumble... ;)
On Wed May 14 14:01 , Tony Harminc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
>2008/5/14 Gary Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Well, disk datasets should be relatively easy... (if the information is
>> returned from the LMDIST
I did not notice.
As you said, interesting...
On Wed May 14 13:59 , Tony Harminc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
>2008/5/14 Gary Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> than the mainframe. Or so it was reported back in January...
>>
>> http://redmondmag.com/features/article.asp\?editorialsid=2400#reliable
>
>
2008/5/14 Gary Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Well, disk datasets should be relatively easy... (if the information is
> returned from the LMDIST call)
>
> Number of tracks used * % of space used * blocks per track divided by record
> length.
>
> Or am I missing something in the question?
RECFM=V ?
2008/5/14 Gary Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> than the mainframe. Or so it was reported back in January...
>
> http://redmondmag.com/features/article.asp?editorialsid=2400#reliable
Interesting that Google Desktop's malware warning is triggered by this site.
Tony H.
---
What if I suggested we turned this thread into a discussion about how Ajax
could be used to pull disparate datasources such as the HMC and RMF
together for z/OS installations' benefit. Would we still want to kill the
thread? I guess so as we should start another thread for THAT.
Martin
Martin
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
At 09:51 -0600 on 05/12/2008, Steve Comstock wrote about Re: Mainframe
programming vs the Web:
It's a real dilema for webpage developers. I recently redesigned
our home page. My initial design was to be very minimalist, just
a few lines, but if you clicked a line it
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Green
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:49 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: estimating number of records.
>
> Well, disk datasets should be relatively easy... (if the
> i
Well, disk datasets should be relatively easy... (if the information is
returned from the LMDIST call)
Number of tracks used * % of space used * blocks per track divided by record
length.
Or am I missing something in the question?
On Wed May 14 10:31 , 'McKown, John' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent
On 14 May 2008 08:38:36 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
(Message-ID:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Packer) wrote:
What it means is that - with suitable protections (such as
NoScript), suitably deployed - javascript is perfectly
safe. So I don't think we're disagreeing at all.
than the mainframe. Or so it was reported back in January...
http://redmondmag.com/features/article.asp?editorialsid=2400#reliable
But disputed...
Watch the wrap.
http://serverspecs.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/05/13/vmware-esx-more-reliable-than-the-mainframe-says-mag/?track=NL-576&ad=639921&asr
On Fri, 9 May 2008 23:14:56 -0500, Kenneth E Tomiak
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How is it you came to have a jobid and not know the jobname? Maybe instead
>of fighting to find the name you can backtrack to what captured the jobid, it
>must have had a jobname at that point too.
>
No. The assemble
For DFSORT, there is a documented exit ICETPEX which supplies tape
dataset size information to DFSORT. I think that typically the tape
management software would include a version of this exit for use by
DFSORT.
Bill
On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:31:11 -0500, McKown, John
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I k
What it means is that - with suitable protections (such as NoScript),
suitably deployed - javascript is perfectly safe. So I don't think we're
disagreeing at all.
Now, if one's browser has no NoScript equivalent that's another matter. I
just assume sensible people go into battle with a whole cl
OK, I admit to not having had enough sleep. But the following insanity came to
me today. So I thought that I'd ask some, hopefully, sane people about it.
I always seem to have problems finding documentation on how a product was installed. That
is,
I know that DFSORT and other products can estimate the number of input
records, given a disk dataset or even a tape. Is there some GUPI
interface where I can get this information myself, easily?
Reason: I have a web page which can list datasets. It uses the ISPF
LMDLIST function to get the datset
Well, thanks to all for your thoughts. I guess that we're going to go
with the old "tried and true" PDSes and put the PDFs on the LAN, not the
mainframe. I'll try to get more sleep tonight .
--
John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage
Administr
On Wed, 14 May 2008 09:48:29 -0400, Daniel McLaughlin wrote:
>
>Sorry, cut my teeth on MFT and don't like no Undeciperable Sub Systems
>(USS).
>
What were we saying a couple days ago about dinos' contempt for
the "new and nifty"?
(BTW, cue Shmuel.)
-- gil
In a message dated 5/14/2008 2:09:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ftp has also another advantage: it is not distance-constrained.
For channel extenders it's not so easy - some limits (or timings) cannot
be covered by "better equipment".
>>
Some of the heavier hitt
Every shop I've been at did it slightly different. The ones I like best
have a PDS with an index and a member for each product that has all
the information you need (install dsns, SMP/E CSI, FMIDs, install date,
STCs, start command, stop command, exits, etc.). hat doc can
point to a network
I can cramp myself within the 44 characters.
Also, since there is a need to store in more than one place, these PDS
files can be brought down to a PC or a server and stored there as well.
As for OPS, nothing seems to have replaced the printed copy kept in a
procedures book.
If you really like
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel McLaughlin
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:48 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Documentation
>
> Aside from the alien file system...there is a benefit of not
> having to
We generally create a dataset with the low level qualifier of "OUTPUT"
and keep all of the job output from a product's installation in that
PDS, and we try to name the members something meaningful (like the
install doc name of the job submitted). We also have CA-View, and I
also keep the output th
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel McLaughlin
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:39 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: crazy thoughts - keeping product installation infomation
>
> I create PDSE files under th
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 08:35 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
> So I got this weird idea. Why not keep all this stuff in the UNIX
> filesystem on the z/OS system itself?
Because ...
I once had an operator ring me because an IPL failed - after a maint
shutdown of the site.
I told him to go read the chang
Aside from the alien file system...there is a benefit of not having to
drag ZFS file stuff across updated ZOS revisions.
A PDS is there. I keep a DOC, INSTALL JCL, and OUTPUT LISTINGS PDSE for
products.
Sorry, cut my teeth on MFT and don't like no Undeciperable Sub Systems
(USS).
Daniel McLau
I use a standard OS PDS with the "install instructions". JCL/JOBS are
stored in the "install: datasets' PDF's for doc are loaded to a standard
"LAN" directory. I (personally) use the web for most doc lookups, but I
also have the doc on the LAN if needed.
What you have proposed will work just fine,
I create PDSE files under the HLQ.XXX.XXX... of the product and document
there. If you want to play in Grok land...enjoy.
Daniel McLaughlin
Z-Series Systems Programmer
Information & Communications Technology
Crawford & Company
4680 N. Royal Atlanta
Tucker GA 30084
phone: 770-621-3256
fax: 7
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shane
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:32 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Remote tape drive
>
> On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 06:42 -0600, David Logan wrote:
>
> > In other words, th
OK, I admit to not having had enough sleep. But the following insanity
came to me today. So I thought that I'd ask some, hopefully, sane people
about it.
I always seem to have problems finding documentation on how a product
was installed. That is, what jobs were run, where were they submitted
from
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 06:42 -0600, David Logan wrote:
> In other words, the CD-ROM itself is never mounted to MVS. Can it be? Or are
> you referring to something like ship software on CD-ROM and have the systems
> programmer upload it via FTP or otherwise?
*Everybody* (even us luddites) use a PC
David Logan wrote:
" There are no datacenters without CD-ROM."
Is this really true?
Yes! Otherwise, then buy them CD-ROM drive (approx. 20$), you can afford
it. I mean it.
And how do you mount a CD-ROM to an MVS machine?
Don't try. Mount CD-ROM in your PC's drive. Then transmit files fro
Graham,
I had to ask. ;)
(snip)
Craig - I can't read CBT775; its a zip containing one .XMI; on a PC,
what can read a .XMI? Would really like to look into this one. You
really started something with POX:-)
(/snip)
If you go to http://cbttape.org on the top left part of the page is a
link to
On Wed, 14 May 2008 03:26:11 -0500, Cwi Jeret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello Tom ,
>
>You wrote :
>
>"No, I stand by my previous statement that:
>
> setxcf force,structure,strname=DSNDSNY_SCA
>
>...should do the trick for this specific case.
>
>I didn't understand the reason why it should work
Yes, we distribute media monthly, via internet download and 3490 and 3590
tape. I find your statement interesting:
" There are no datacenters without CD-ROM."
Is this really true? And how do you mount a CD-ROM to an MVS machine? I am
used to the Flex and MP3000, where you use the CD-ROM with OS/2
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Poil
>
> I am surprised that nobody has yet figured out a way to do it
> with valve technology or something even more primitive. There
> must be someone out there who can best the last post.
Well, the "old-t
David Logan wrote:
Re the question about how things are discussed quite thoroughly without the
author weighing in...I am always humored at how threads develop a life of
their own :)
The details are pretty simple: We have a new mainframe in Maryland, we are
in Colorado. We need a single 3490 (and
Re the question about how things are discussed quite thoroughly without the
author weighing in...I am always humored at how threads develop a life of
their own :)
The details are pretty simple: We have a new mainframe in Maryland, we are
in Colorado. We need a single 3490 (and a single 3590) in Bo
The batch initiator program IEFIIC must therefore being covering the ATTACH of
your program with an EOT routine or completion ECB - which makes perfect sense
as it needs to re-use the address space for the next batch job.
Rob Scott
Rocket Software, Inc
275 Grove Street
Newton, MA 02466
617-614
On Tue, 13 May 2008 20:49:44 +0100, Martin Packer wrote:
>You're NOT differing. :-)
What's that supposed to mean? I replied to your post that issues with
Javascript were a thing of the past, if I understood correctly. This came up a
few months ago and that was when I installed NoScript. It h
Hi Rob
In the dump I see only the IEAVAR00 (RCT) and IEAVTSDT (dump task).
For this application, it is happening only if I start as an STC, if I
start as batch job, it complets normally for the STOP command.
Rob Scott wrote:
S33E may or may not be an error depending on what the developer int
S33E may or may not be an error depending on what the developer intended - it
is quite common to see it (and ignore it) when an address space is terminating.
It basically means that a TCB has been DETACHed before it had completed
processing - and the main reason for this will be those TCBs that
Hi
Is the X33E and S33E bad or just ugly ?
If someone can tell the resaon for the 33E abends
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Development Team
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>I would like to have a tape drive at a remote office from where the
> mainframe is physically located. Preferably a (normally) channel
> attached tape drive, rather than a SCSI type of thing, although I
> would take the latter if given no other choices.
I have done it on unix using rsh (or ssh),
Hello Tom ,
You wrote :
"No, I stand by my previous statement that:
setxcf force,structure,strname=DSNDSNY_SCA
...should do the trick for this specific case.
I didn't understand the reason why it should work , but I followed
Your tip , AND IT WORKED
MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED !!!
Tha
I am surprised that nobody has yet figured out a way to do it with valve
technology or something even more primitive. There must be someone out
there who can best the last post.
(This is beginning to sound like "when I was young, I used to walk twenty
miles to school every day, come rain or shi
> Craig - I can't read CBT775; its a zip containing one .XMI; on a PC,
what
> can read a .XMI? Would really like to look into this one.
Xmit manager - front page of cbttape.org. Excellent piece of work.
Fine if you just want to look at the package. If you want somewhere to
play, you might have
Graham Hobbs wrote:
Craig - I can't read CBT775; its a zip containing one .XMI; on a PC,
what can read a .XMI? Would really like to look into this one. You
really started something with POX:-)
This may be more work than it's worth, but there is a mainframe
simulator named Hercules at http://w
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
I know it's bf to respond to one's own post.
But, we did it with a couple of tape drives, printers and cheque processors.
It was cheaper than putting a mainframe onsite.
Cheap and expensive are relative. If one wants to have entire ATL
(Automated Tape Library) offsite, then
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