>I simply don't believe someone had the audacity to patent this.
>http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6120553/description.html
Can you say "partial release on close", boys & girls?
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Assuming I'm not the only one who is puzzled by this post, please explain
exactly what you mean by
> Assume the TCPIP FTP PORT is not open yet
and
> only SNA transmission is available for mainframe
Trying to take the statements at face value I can reply that the
Communications Server
Is it just file transfer you're worried about doing in the absence of IP? If
so, from where to where?
Options might include:
MF <> WS: ind$file
MF <> MF: RSCS
i
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From: Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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This past several weeks, I've been updating all the
courses I'm responsible for to reflect changes brought
about by z/OS 1.10 in each course's subject area.
Actually, z/OS 1.10, HLASM 1.6, and the new z10 machines
are all converging at about this time.
Since most folks don't get a chance to expl
>From the name/address on the patent
Sidwell Enterprises Inc.
Private Company, Headquarters Location
10107 Bronco Dr., Parker, CO, United States
(303)841-5595,
Primary SIC: Pesticides & Agricultural Chems, Not Elsewhere Classified,
Primary NAICS: Pesticide and Other Agricultural Chemical Manufact
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:18:23 -0500, Hal Merritt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Kinda wished they'd called it the 3390 Model T :-))
T for Terabytes? Cute. 223GB to start, but Terabytes, and possibly
Petabytes seem to be the goal. At the zOS Goody Bag pitch at SHARE, the
observation was made tha
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ken Porowski
>
> From the name/address on the patent
>
> Sidwell Enterprises Inc.
> Private Company, Headquarters Location
> 10107 Bronco Dr., Parker, CO, United States (303)841-5595,
> Primary SIC: Pesticides & Agri
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:01:44 -0500, John P Kalinich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>OK, let's have the SHARE report. Any buzz about the future of the PSI
>acquisition? Any major sn*bbing going on?
Didn't gather any intel on PSI, but I got the "shoulder sn*b" from Jaffe
throughout the JES3 project
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:55:26 -0500, Arthur Gutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Since the trauma of going to 5-byte UCB is unbearable (going from 3 to 4 was
>eventful enough for some), this seems to be a reasonable compromise for UCB
>constraint relief.
>
MSS (multiple subchannel sets) is sort o
Michael Knigge wrote:
Thank you all for your hints... When the bug is found I'll tell you...
If anybody is interested - it is solved!
The bug wasn't found by using IPCS, ABEND-AID, DumpMaster or whatever,
just by using the all time favourite Debugger "Eyes'n'Brain" ;-)
My application is wri
Is RMF's graphic display widely used? Is is generally considered a
useful tool? If so, is it used more as a diagnostic tool? A capacity
planning tool? Both?
We've finally cranked up GPMSERVE. (Hey, it's been out only 3 or so
years. That's practically bleeding edge for us.) I downloaded an
We issue DB2 STOP commands with the commands submitted through the internal
reader and since conversion to V8 we are getting -
DSN9016I - '-STOP' COMMAND REJECTED, UNAUTHORIZED REQUEST
DSN9023I - DSN9SCND '-STOP DB2' ABNORMAL COMPLETION
I realise that the user now has to have the security to i
Patrick,
You may want to try the web interface to this. Point your browser to
http://my-tcp-sysname:8803/ where my-tcp-sysname is the TCP name of the system
where you started GPMSERVE. It's much more intuitive than RMF PM.
Jim Horne
Systems Programmer
Large Systems Engineering & Messaging IS7
You would be surprised what "gets through". Years ago a software vendor
claimed to have patented the use of RBA (Repeat to Buffer Address) in a
3270 controller as one point of their optimization of data streams. Of
course, years beyond that, after much wasting of time, contention and
heartbur
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
08/18/2008
at 05:23 PM, Lindy Mayfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>I would like to map out the memory usage of an address space to know what
>subpools it is using, the number of bytes, addresses, that sort of thing.
Subpools are defined at the task level, although th
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/18/2008
at 10:49 AM, Wayne Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>With one minor (but important) exceptions, subpools 0-127 are user
>private, so the usage is defined by, and up to the programs running in
>the address space.
All subpools are created equal; some are m
We used SDSF DA display to determine the ID of the job issuing the STOP
command.
Then VIA SPUFI issue the command
GRANT SYSOPR TO userid;
Jerry
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Jim McAlpine
On 8/19/08, Jim McAlpine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We issue DB2 STOP commands with the commands submitted through the
> internal reader and since conversion to V8 we are getting -
>
> DSN9016I - '-STOP' COMMAND REJECTED, UNAUTHORIZ
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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:38 AM
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You would be surprised what "gets through".
Not surprised, HORRIFIED
At 08:09 + on 08/19/2008, Ted MacNEIL wrote about Re:
Unbelievable Patent for JCL:
>I simply don't believe someone had the audacity to patent this.
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6120553/description.html
Can you say "partial release on close", boys & girls?
That only is of use i
I will be out of the office starting 20/08/2008 and will not return until
25/08/2008.
For AirNZ or TCL operational matters please contact Tony Brown. For Westpac
NZ operational matters, NWM Software currency or operational matters
contact Richard Crook. Otherwise if anything urgent comes up conta
OK, I tried to stay away but in 1971 someone applied for a patent for a
wheelborrow. Now, the law has change so that anything that has been in common
use for certain time period can not be patented.
Warren
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Don't I simply schedule an SRB to run in that address space, map out all
the tasks, subtasks and memory allocated by each one, and then just read
it?
Or did I miss something... again.
I managed to snoop the LDA in other address spaces quite easily since it
is in sp 255.
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Nothing thrilling happened. )-:
Just S478-08: A problem program tried to free subpool zero. The control
program releases subpool zero when a job step ends.
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Sent: 19. elok
Ok, I've followed this thread through and I also question this being a
patentable item. What actually constitutes patentable material anyway?
I would have thought that as a software process this might fall under
copyright law but not under patent law. Also, some one mentioned the
word Olympics be
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:40:41 -0600, Steve Comstock
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...snipped...
>* You can use pass phrases insted of passwords. The docs
> are a little confusing here. It looks like the design
> point allows a 255 byte length string but that TSO logon
> only supports a 100 byte
Lindy,
Scheduling an SRB requires update access to an APF authorized dataset, since
SCHEDULE requires SUP state and KEY 0 while IEAMSCHD requires KEY 0 or SUP
state. In addition, there are serialization concerns, because unless you
hold the local lock, you can't guarantee that all these control bl
All you IBM'ers out there reading this, please delete this message and keep
moving... I'm serious now, move on... There is nothing for you to see here...
.
.
.
Now that they're gone...
Way, WAY back, IBM provided a utility in IPO1.LINKLIB (at least I think that's
where it was) which would al
I have no problem running authorized. I have a z10 in my basement.
So you mean that if I read a control block that points to another one,
etc, and this points to memory, then I need to basically stop the
address space from doing anything until I'm all done reading. Is that
about right?
-Ori
Hi Everyone,
We are implementing the s/FTP process. Our process includes, using FTP to
get the file from z/OS to OMVS into a directory that is created under ROOT.
The file is created but the permission bits are 600. It doesn't seem to
matter which userid creates the file, they all are created wit
Program is called CPPUPDTE now.
This was the zap for IPOUPDTE:
NAME IPOUPDTE IPOUPDTE
VER 0548 0A12 BLDL
REP 0548 1BFF SR 15,1R
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Sent: Tuesday, A
Gary,
I believe you are thinking of IPOUPDTE. I am not sure about the zapping part
or if it is even shipped any more.
Today there are many options that can do a similar process. There may even be
something on the CBT tape with the PDS command.
But, PDSMAN if available can do what you are loo
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:45:15 -0400, Gary Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>Well, I lost my, er..., copy during a hard drive failure a few years ago;
on one of our in-house P/390's. Now that I am moving on to another shop, I
find I will need it again. I have at least 4 dozen PDS's I will need
You might look at the TSUPDATE program in file 35 from www.cbttape.org.
/Tom Kern
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:45:15 -0400, Gary Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Way, WAY back, IBM provided a utility in IPO1.LINKLIB (at least I think
that's where it was) which would allow one to perform mass changes (
On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 12:45 -0400, Gary Green wrote:
> I looked in the CPAC loadlib(s) and it's not there.
Look in the SCPPLOAD library for CPPUPDTE.
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Gary,
The program was named IPOUPDTE and the "trick" to make it work was the
existence of a member name (IIRC) $$$COIBM.
Search the CBT tape, I believe that a similar program does exist.
Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Hawkins
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 7:24 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Unbelievable Patent for JCL
>
> I simply don't believe someone had the audacity to patent this.
>
Just FYI - this patent was issued on 9/19/2000 - it has been around for
over 8 years. Who really cares at this point.
US Patent 6120553 - System for modifying JCL statements to optimize data
storage allocations
US Patent Issued on September 19, 2000
Larry
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I found that if the PDS had a member $$$COIBM IPOUPDTE would work. No zap
required.
Jerry
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I KNEW someone on this list would recall that thing... :)
Thanks!
Oh, I found it in the *.SCPPLOAD PDS...
On Tue Aug 19 11:57 , "Field, Alan C." sent:
>Program is called CPPUPDTE now.
>
>This was the zap for IPOUPDTE:
>
>NAME IPOUPDTE IPOUPDTE
>VER 0548 0A12 BLDL
>REP 0548
The issue is that if you don't have the local lock anyone else in the
address space can issue a virtual storage request that will change the
SPQE-DQE-FBQE chains while you are running them, and the next pointer may no
longer be valid. As long as you are just looking, you will get an S0C4 in
the SR
Check your umask setting in /etc/profile as documented in z/OS V1R8.0
UNIX System Services User's Guide.
Jon L. Veilleux
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On 19 Aug 2008 08:54:08 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson,
Steve) wrote:
>
>Not surprised, HORRIFIED!
>
>I've seen a patent granted that OBVIOUSLY violated an existing patent. A
>patent that was filed years after GA products (yes, PLURAL) were already
>doing what the claimant said they had discov
Lindy Mayfield wrote:
So you mean that if I read a control block that points to another one,
etc, and this points to memory, then I need to basically stop the
address space from doing anything until I'm all done reading. Is that
about right?
I've been doing this for more than twenty years with
So far it seems like something I can work on that can be done in stages
and I can learn a lot in the process. First getting the SRB working,
then reading a bit of memory, then adding recovery routines, etc.
So far all my other "great" ideas required a huge effort before getting
any results at a
Uh, I'd like to patent the following DD statement...
//SYSOUTDF DD DSN=PATENT.BELONGS.TO.DOC.FARMER,DISP=SHR
IBM, I'm expecting a check... :)
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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 13:31
Actually the rule below depends on the DATACLAS Construct for additional
volumes. The default is Primary, which means a new Primary on every volume,
but it can be set to secondary so that VSAM datasets behave the same way as
Non-VSAM, allocating the secondary extent value on every subsequent volume
Larry,
I was googling for something else when this popped up. Half a page into it I
realized that someone had patented common sense. Kinda like a patent for
using your hands to operate a steering wheel.
And you should care if you write a document, develop automation, or present
a paper that uses
I dare you to prove common sense is prior art, at least I've never seen
it!
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Half a page into it I realized that someone had patented common sense.
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>
> Ok, I've followed this thread through and I also question thi
Thanks for the reference Lizette.
Another list member reminded me of the name of the utility.
Even though other processes could provide the same function, I was always fond
of using the IPOUPDTE, now CPPUPDTE (which makes sense), utility. Some shops
would not allow me to install non-approved s
So that was what IPOUPDTE looked for with the BLDL... Interesting. Thanks for
that piece of trivia.
I just zapped the BC after the BLDL and made it a B.
On Tue Aug 19 12:06 , Wayne Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
>Gary,
>The program was named IPOUPDTE and the "trick" to make it work was
Just curious. Where, if anywhere, is CPPUPDTE documented?
I can't find it.
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I played with something similar many years ago. IIRC, I used ESAR, SSAR
and MVCP instructions to pull information from other address spaces. You
start out with addresses that are in common, such as ASCB, then work your
way down pointer chains. It is mainly useful for system control blocks.
Hi Michael, in these days we should code RENT code only.
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One of my few remaining brain cells is overheating :o)
In most of my tiny known universe, a Queue Depth is a way to express
work units waiting on a resource. So, from an application point of view,
yes, I suppose a queue depth could be thought of as concurrent I/O. But
not in z land. When we say co
_http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/s390/os390/installation/cppupdte.txt_
(http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/s390/os390/installation/cppupdte.txt)
**It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel
deal here.
(http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv0005000
First hit in Google.
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Just curious. Where, if anywhere, is CPPUPDTE d
I checked umask setting in /etc/profile, even tried an override in the JCL
and still the file is created with 600.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:28 PM
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On 19 Aug 2008 11:29:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:
>Historically, software was copyrighted or "trade secret". But some court
>case in the US really messed that up (don't remember the case name).
>Since then, software patents have been pretty much a "free ride".
Even still, tra
Gary Green wrote:
Thanks for the reference Lizette.
Another list member reminded me of the name of the utility.
Even though other processes could provide the same function, I was always fond
of using the IPOUPDTE, now CPPUPDTE (which makes sense), utility. Some shops
would not allow me to in
In a message dated 8/19/2008 2:08:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I played with something similar many years ago. IIRC, I used ESAR, SSAR
and MVCP instructions to pull information from other address spaces.
I did something similar once. You have to make sure
This is my first question to the group, hopefully this makes sense.
I'm trying to use listcat to create a list of gdgs with the creation
time, but I can't find the keyword. Anyone know this?
Thanks!
//STEP1EXEC PGM=AMSE
//STEPLIB DD DSN=SYSWS1.TREX.LOADLIB,DISP=
In a message dated 8/18/2008 7:24:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Total max extents vary depending on whether SMS
stripping and/or extended addressability which would put the max at 4080
extents. If Extent Constraint relief is used, then the max is 7257.
Then th
>I'm trying to use listcat to create a list of gdgs with the creation time, but
>I can't find the keyword. >Anyone know this? Thanks!
>//STEP1EXEC PGM=AMSE
>//STEPLIB DD DSN=SYSWS1.TREX.LOADLIB,DISP=SHR
>//SYSINDD *
>
since this is a wayback question,
perhaps we should enlist the aid and assistance of Mr Peabody (and his pet
boy Sherman) wayback machine .
Chris Hoelscher
Senior IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator
Humana Inc
502-476-2538
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The information transmitted is intended only for the
And just to add 1 more level of complexity, Guaranteed Space
allocates the Primary request on each volume.
Ralph Kaden
z/OS (MVS) Level 2 Support - Allocation and Scheduler
(Converter/Interpreter, Initiator/Terminator, ENF, SJF, SMF, SSI, SWA Mgr)
T/ L: 8/295-4096 External: 845-435-
McKown, John wrote:
recently have the courts started getting after frivolous software
patents. Imagine, if you will, what would have happened if software
patents had been around in the MVT days. The only scheduling package
would likely be CA-7. The only tape management package would be CA-1.
And,
Can you say "sibling pend?"
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> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Here we go again (was z/OS Hot Topics 19)
>
> One of m
Hi,
There was something on the CBT/Share tape called VSM, I think that does ALL
of this for you, with comments and pointers etc.
Should still be around... You could even run it in TSO and see the Storage
maps etc.
Anton
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:09:27 +0800, Tommy Tsui
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>hi all,
>Assume the TCPIP FTP PORT is not open yet and only SNA
transmission is
>avaiable for mainframe. any other tools that can replace the APPC
suite?
>...
I doubt I'm going to say anything Chris did not already say
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:48:04 -0400, Jerry Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Just curious. Where, if anywhere, is CPPUPDTE documented?
>
>I can't find it.
>
Besides Serverpac:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/installation/cppupdte.html
Mark
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:08:21 -0400, Jerry Fuchs
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I found that if the PDS had a member $$$COIBM IPOUPDTE would
work. No zap
>required.
>...
In a couple shops I worked in about 20 years ago, those that
were there after me may have wondered at all the datasets that
my
In a message dated 8/19/2008 3:45:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>AFAIK the first software patent was granted to Martin Goetz of
Applied Data Research, Inc. (ADR) in the sixties...
I remember seeing this event well-publicized in the trade journals at the
time.
I guess that's a perfect example of "ask, and yee shall receive". :)
Thanks John!
Gary Green
Never use a 2x4 when a 2x6 will do just as well!
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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:58 PM
T
I was wondering who it would be that could not resist the reference. I
guess we know who, don't we...?
A slightly related side story...
For a while I collected limited edition prints by a wildlife artist named
Robert Bateman. During my collecting phase, I wound up with a couple of
prints, one
Our shop didn't allow use the FTP protocol becuase of the security issued.
On 8/20/08, Patrick O'Keefe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:09:27 +0800, Tommy Tsui
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >hi all,
> >Assume the TCPIP FTP PORT is not open yet and only SNA
> transmission i
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:27:48 +0800, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Our shop didn't allow use the FTP protocol becuase of the security issued.
>...
That protocol is TCP/IP.
They disallowed FTP but allowed AFTP?
Or just didn't know about AFTP?
I'm not sure the rule setters would appreci
>//STEP1EXEC PGM=AMSE
>//STEPLIB DD DSN=SYSWS1.TREX.LOADLIB,DISP=SHR
>//SYSINDD *
> LISTC ENT(PRODPP.SY.SMFMAST.DB2.SYSA) ALL -
> REPORT(DSN,CREDATE)
>/*
>Is RMF's graphic display widely used? Is is generally considered a
>useful tool? If so, is it used more as a diagnostic tool? A capacity
>planning tool? Both?
My colleague (who is into excel sheets) installed the thing for monitoring
purposes when the cpu load was extremely heavy. Turned out tha
Two options:
- use "QUOTE SITE UMASK nnn" before the MKD
- use "QUOTE SITE CHMOD nnn dirname" after the MKD
No shell is involved in ftp, so the shell's "profile"
are not of interest.
FTPD has a FTP.DATA configuration file that sets the default
UMASK for FTP sessions. See "IP Configuration Ref
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