Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-03 Thread Abe F. Kornelis
Steve, thanks for the pointer. Nice to have the book. I'll seek to find time asap for updating the opcode charts on www.hlasm.com\english\opcd00.htm and associated pages. Cheers, Abe Kornelis. = - Original Message - From: "Steve Comstock" To: Sent: Saturday, September 04, 20

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 14:20 -0600 on 09/03/2010, Howard Brazee wrote about Re: Virginia DOT outage: Most languages allow for A = A + 1. Since "=" means set-to-the-value-of this is no different than: LA 5,1(0,5) IOW: Compute the value of A+1 and store it in A.

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sep 3, 2010, at 16:47, Steve Comstock wrote: > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2b9de5f05a9d57819852571c500428f9a > Can't get there. I thought I was registered, long ago. 1. Try to sign in with account name and password I remember. (Same as IBMLink account.) IBM puts

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 01:25 -0400 on 09/03/2010, Gabe Goldberg wrote about Re: Virginia DOT outage: The problem wasn't checking license validity, it was renewing licenses. They've extended by 20 days validity of licenses which expired Aug 25-Sept 2 or so, are keeping DMV offices open extra hours and days, and

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 08:59 -0500 on 09/03/2010, Avram Friedman wrote about Re: Virginia DOT outage: Why does this outage prevent the offcers from writting tickets for expired licenses when the driver is stopped for other reasons. After all the experation date is on the drivers license? The answer is the gover

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 11:32 -0500 on 09/03/2010, Tom Marchant wrote about Re: Virginia DOT outage: >One of the many reasons that I prefer computer languages. They are not ambiguous. Not ambiguous, I suppose, but sometimes counter-intuitive. What does this mean in C: If A=B then. Set A to B's value. The

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 12:05 +0200 on 09/03/2010, Peter Nuttall wrote about Re: Virginia DOT outage: Indeed ... Personal favourite : Stationery - Office equipment Stationary - Not in motion Or President - chief official (as of a company or nation) Precedent - something said or done earlier that serves as an ex

Re: IT staff integration?

2010-09-03 Thread Stephen Y Odo
On 09/03/2010 04:19 AM, McKown, John wrote: > I'm just curious if any shops out there have really integrated staffs between > the mainframe and "distributed" groups. Do your mainframe application folks > also write "distributed" applications? Do your mainframe sysprogs also act as > Linux sysadm

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Clark Morris
On 3 Sep 2010 15:52:25 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >On 9/3/2010 5:36 PM, Gerhard Adam wrote: >>> The way I read the articles, there was mirroring and the failure of >>> primary was made disastrous by the failure of the mirroring device. If >>> this is the case, what are the probabil

Re: Hiperbatch on ZOS 1.10

2010-09-03 Thread Mike Schwab
This is about all I could find of it. https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker/entry/memories_of_hiperbatch?lang=en On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Dave Barry wrote: > Speaking of which... > > Does anybody know of a working version of HBAID?  It used to be a MKTTOOL

AUTO: Lionel Dyck is out of the office - have a happy Labor Day (returning 09/07/2010)

2010-09-03 Thread Lionel Dyck
I am out of the office until 09/07/2010. I am out of the office. Call my cell if this is an emergency. Note: This is an automated response to your message "Re: Virginia DOT outage" sent on 9/3/10 12:20:14. This is the only notification you will receive while this person is away. -

Re: Hiperbatch on ZOS 1.10

2010-09-03 Thread Dave Barry
Speaking of which... Does anybody know of a working version of HBAID? It used to be a MKTTOOL available for free download from IBM, but seems to have vanished without a trace years ago. It stopped working for me at the time UCBs went from three to four digits. I would think it would be easy

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Richard L Peurifoy
On 9/3/2010 5:36 PM, Gerhard Adam wrote: The way I read the articles, there was mirroring and the failure of primary was made disastrous by the failure of the mirroring device. If this is the case, what are the probabilities of the same thing on IBM devices regardless of the operating system? T

The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-03 Thread Steve Comstock
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2b9de5f05a9d57819852571c500428f9a -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excelle

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Gerhard Adam
>The way I read the articles, there was mirroring and the failure of >primary was made disastrous by the failure of the mirroring device. If >this is the case, what are the probabilities of the same thing on IBM >devices regardless of the operating system? That's probably true. After all, who wou

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Clark Morris
On 3 Sep 2010 11:27:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: > Any DASD device is going to eventually fail. If the data is not backed up > efficiently (mirrored, physical or otherwise) and there aren't solid and, > more importantly, TESTED procedures in place for when that failure does

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread William H. Blair
Rick Fochtman wisely noted: | Stupidity is always a reason and often an excuse. | Unfortunately, there's no vaccine for it. It would not matter if there were a vaccine. I am convinced that by the time a child is old enough to be vaccinated the disease has already taken firm hold, and the un

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread zMan
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >>This after numerous EMC marketting reps assured me, of a period of several >>months, that EMC had NEVER experienced a storage failure that resulted in ANY >>outage. > > I KNOW of one in Canada in the mid-1990's. > > What ever he's smoking, I'd

Re: Code names for zSeries

2010-09-03 Thread Phil Smith
Well, as of z9, they were "System z", not "zSeries", but: z900 - Freeway z800 - Raptor z990 - T-Rex z890 - Ptero z9 - Danu z10 - can't remember z196 - Gryphon aka zNext -- ...phsiii Phil Smith III p...@voltage.com Voltage Security, Inc. www.voltage.com (703) 476-4511 (home office) (703) 568-6

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- No argument but, as we all know, "Stuff" happens. Here on "The List", we all have the benefit of long experience and a very high set of quality standards. Not every shop enjoys these attributes. Sorry, but that's n

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 3:20 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Virginia DOT outage > > On 3 Sep 2010 09:51:53 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (M

Code names for zSeries

2010-09-03 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
Warning: This email was cross posted to IBM-MAIN, IBMVM and VSE-L Lists. As z196 has a code name of *Gryphon* before announcement, other zSeries has similar names, as *T-Rex* (z990??) *Pterodactylus*/ (z890???) Anyone has all family names? z900 - z800 - z990 - /*T-Rex*/ z890 - /*Pterodactylu

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Howard Brazee
On 3 Sep 2010 12:42:52 -0700, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: >>I would absolutely LOVE a grass roots campaign to eliminate = as a >>token in any and all languages. Comparison should be ==. > >"==" is an abomination. > >>Assignment should be :=. > >There I agree, alth

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Howard Brazee
On 3 Sep 2010 09:51:53 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) wrote: >As shown, nothing because it is invalid syntax. > >But with parenthesis around the A=B, it means exactly what it says: Assign the >value of B to A, then test to see if it is equal to zero or not. That is where >t

Re: isolating sensitive data in coupling facility

2010-09-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 13:40:26 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: > >... But it sounds like some >kind of restriction based on a perceived problem, but where they are not >telling you the problem they're trying to resolve. > That reminds me of something I read i

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Howard Brazee
On 3 Sep 2010 12:23:18 -0700, gada...@charter.net (Gerhard Adam) wrote: >>That works fine for files managed by a DBMS. What about ordinary PS/PO >>datasets that may get updated several times between backup cycles? > >They need to be backed up more frequently if they're that critical. This >isn't

Re: PC Upgrade (Was: How often do you upgrade your zOS operating system?)

2010-09-03 Thread Howard Brazee
On 3 Sep 2010 12:06:49 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) wrote: >I'm a Linux user on my personal equipment. And one, lone, Mac Mini. I've never >really the upgraded Mac OSX, just applied recommended patches. My Linux boxes > - well one is very old and running a 2003 version of R

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>This after numerous EMC marketting reps assured me, of a period of several >months, that EMC had NEVER experienced a storage failure that resulted in ANY >outage. I KNOW of one in Canada in the mid-1990's. What ever he's smoking, I'd like some. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motiv

Re: IT staff integration?

2010-09-03 Thread Scott Rowe
We have no separation based on platform. >>> "McKown, John" 9/3/2010 10:19 AM >>> I'm just curious if any shops out there have really integrated staffs between the mainframe and "distributed" groups. Do your mainframe application folks also write "distributed" applications? Do your mainframe sy

Re: Another zFS conversion question

2010-09-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- I'd prefer that but z/OS is sent to us with the files as SYS1 so that's what I have to use. Unless politics is getting in the way, a simple parmlib update should allow y

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
This after numerous EMC marketting reps assured me, of a period of several months, that EMC had NEVER experienced a storage failure that resulted in ANY outage. AND they assured me that no EMC customer had ever lost a single byte of data due to EEMC product failure. Repeat after me: HORSEFEA

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:34 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Virginia DOT outage > > > ---

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <1458820400-1283538012-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2998234...@bda026.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>, on 09/03/2010 at 06:20 PM, Ted MacNEIL said: >== is a good choice for comparison. It's ugly. >:= is ALGOL So? If you adopt := for another language then using = for equality isn't c

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/03/2010 at 11:47 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: >And some DEC languages used for assignment when that was >a prevalent graphic on Teletype print elements. (I believe ASCII >usurped the code point with . I recall several ASCII code points with dual assignments. The one that I hated most

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/03/2010 at 11:56 AM, "McKown, John" said: >I would absolutely LOVE a grass roots campaign to eliminate = as a >token in any and all languages. Comparison should be ==. "==" is an abomination. >Assignment should be :=. There I agree, although I would allow, e.g., +:=. -- S

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/03/2010 at 08:59 AM, Avram Friedman said: >As an example ever since VSAM recoverable catalogs The ones that were less stable than nonrecoverable catalogs? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- Yeah, we had a research department have their big server stolen from secure closet. IBM said they could replace overnight-which they did. Then our server folks got AIX up and trucking, we're ready for the backups. Very b

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- I would absolutely LOVE a grass roots campaign to eliminate = as a token in any and all languages. Comparison should be ==. Assignment should be :=. No ambiguity there. No "intuitive" meaning for newbies to make an assumpti

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Gerhard Adam
>That works fine for files managed by a DBMS. What about ordinary PS/PO >datasets that may get updated several times between backup cycles? They need to be backed up more frequently if they're that critical. This isn't rocket science.

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Gerhard Adam
>No argument but, as we all know, "Stuff" happens. >Here on "The List", we all have the benefit of long experience and a >very high set of quality standards. Not every shop enjoys these attributes. Sorry, but that's no excuse. When someone sets themselves up as being the outsourcer and is being

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- >Having been in on a couple of recovery actions due to major files getting fouled up, I can believe that things could take up to a week. How do major files get fouled up with adequate backups? Or audit files. IMS da

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
No argument but, as we all know, "Stuff" happens. Here on "The List", we all have the benefit of long experience and a very high set of quality standards. Not every shop enjoys these attributes. Don't forget: the Titanic was built by people with high standards and long experience. And the Spa

Re: Where doc for STORAGE LINKAGE=SYSTEM

2010-09-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- If you ask "why not CALLERKEY?" you'd be asking a good question. It was because at the time I thought our macros still had to support assembler F ITYM XF. Assembler F would have been well and truly dead[1] by the time ST

Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip

2010-09-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- Model 91, the high-end of IBM s popular System/360 family, Faux news seems to have written the 360/95 and 360/195 out of History. -- When have you EVER heard of a r

Re: PC Upgrade (Was: How often do you upgrade your zOS operating system?)

2010-09-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:55 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: PC Upgrade (Was: How often do you upgrade your zOS > operating system?) > > On 9/1/2010

Re: Molly Malone (was:RE: Set numbers off permanently.)

2010-09-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/03/2010 at 07:24 AM, "McKown, John" said: >http://www.lyricstime.com/allan-sherman-shticks-of-one-kind-and-half-a-dozen-of-the-other-lyrics.html Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We d

PC Upgrade (Was: How often do you upgrade your zOS operating system?)

2010-09-03 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 9/1/2010 2:04 AM, R.S. wrote: I change OS and hardware much more frequently than my PC, laptop or Windows servers. I'm like you. My PC gets upgraded only when it breaks. I think that's because there just isn't enough compelling new content in a new PC. Most of it seems like change for the

BCPii and ENF

2010-09-03 Thread Stan Weyman
Has anyone else had the pleasure so far of trying to reverse engineer parts of IBM's BCPii implementation?? The straightforward stuff is easy to figure out and get working but the ENF68 interface is supported by no docs (a promised Info APAR has been in the works all summer). Has anyone got

Re: IT staff integration?

2010-09-03 Thread Rozeboom, Kay [DAS]
Our DBA's are all in one group, but everyone else is pretty much separated into mainframe or non-mainframe. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Su

Re: isolating sensitive data in coupling facility

2010-09-03 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:43:55 -0500, Patrick Kappeler wrote: >Thank you Radoslaw, interesting indeed, and unquestionable, viewpoint. >In fact we are foreseeing some restrictions, brought by some standards, that >would prohibit data with different security classes to reside in the same >storage dev

Re: Help with IEWFETCH Error RC0F Reason 40 (Resoloved)

2010-09-03 Thread William H. Blair
Rick Fochtman said: > Peter, I suspect it's a carry-over from the days > when DISP=OLD did reserves on shared DASD. > I may be wrong. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz said: | > I may be wrong. | You are. DADSM does a reserve. Various applications do RESERVE. But allocation does not. If that statement

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Anton Britz > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:28 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Virginia DOT outage > Conclusion : > > So Northrop Grumman is saying, they are havi

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Anton Britz
Summary of the article in the Computer World : 2005 : The Virginia Information Technologies Agency (VITA) outsources the management of its data centers to Northrop Grumman through a 10-year, $2.4 billion contract

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I like using two letter abbreviations for comparisons. EQ, NE, GT, LE, etc. Perhaps not so good if English is not your primary language, but... I think FORTRAN is sort of similar, but it has annoying dots around the operators: .EQ., etc. I've never actually used FORTRAN so I can't say if the

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Stan Weyman
Any DASD device is going to eventually fail. If the data is not backed up efficiently (mirrored, physical or otherwise) and there aren't solid and, more importantly, TESTED procedures in place for when that failure does happen (the DMX-3 is an older piece of EMC hardware) then the DOT in Vir

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Stan Weyman
<< >There also are some fiascos that real-time >backup won't guard against. >> such as? Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final -Original Message- From: IBM Mai

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I would absolutely LOVE a grass roots campaign to eliminate = as a token in >any and all languages. >Comparison should be ==. >Assignment should be :=. In 1980, my final year at UOW, I wrote a paper stating exactly the same thing. I got a good mark, and ended up with a double major (CS & Stats).

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread John McKown
More info: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9183460/Northrop_Grumman_takes_blame_for_Va._IT_services_outage -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the mess

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 9/3/2010 8:05:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, howard.bra...@cusys.edu writes: realized that she usually neglected this option and before calling for help, backed up the corrupted copy over her one good backup. >> Yeah, we had a research department have their big server s

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 9/3/2010 4:58:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, peter.nutt...@euroclear.com writes: We had the BMC utility suite the following week >> Yeah we managed to justify Platinum Suite in a hurry. Paid for itself within a year. ---

Re: JCL

2010-09-03 Thread Frank Yaeger
Ron Thomas wrote on IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 09/03/2010 08:59:05 AM: > I have a o/p file in the 1'st 5 bytes the data is a comp field s9(9) > comp, using > a jcl i need to o/p as a numeric data, how we can do this? Ron, If you look here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/book

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 11:48 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Virginia DOT outage > > On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 11:32:12 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: > > >

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 11:32 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Virginia DOT outage > > On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:38:59 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > > >O

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 11:32:12 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: > >Not ambiguous, I suppose, but sometimes counter-intuitive. > >What does this mean in C: >If A=B then. > I cherish languages of the ALGOL lineage for their use of "=" as a comparison operator but not for assignment. And some DEC language

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Howard Brazee
On 3 Sep 2010 08:25:13 -0700, gerh...@valley.net (Gerhard Postpischil) wrote: >> Then there are all the Janus words, which are spelled the >> same, pronounced the same, but have opposite meanings >> Fortunately, there are not many. Here are a few in English: > >And potentially the most dangerous:

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:38:59 -0500, McKown, John wrote: >One of the many reasons that I prefer computer languages. >They are not ambiguous. Not ambiguous, I suppose, but sometimes counter-intuitive. What does this mean in C: If A=B then. -- Tom Marchant ---

Re: JCL

2010-09-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Thomas > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:59 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: JCL > > Hi,av > > I have a o/p file in the 1'st 5 bytes the data is a comp > field s9(9) c

Re: Smpe holdata

2010-09-03 Thread John Eells
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:52:46 -0400, John Eells wrote: From the URL you cited yesterday: Linkname: IBM Enhanced HOLDDATA for z/OS and OS/390 URL: http://service.software.ibm.com/holdata/390holddata.html ... It's much simpler to follow Mark's suggestion.

Re: JCL

2010-09-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:59:05 -0500, Ron Thomas wrote: > >I have a o/p file in the 1'st 5 bytes the data is a comp field s9(9) comp, >using >a jcl i need to o/p as a numeric data, how we can do this? > JCL does very little of its own; certainly not what you require. You need to invoke (or write) a

Re: Smpe holdata

2010-09-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:52:46 -0400, John Eells wrote: >>> >> From the URL you cited yesterday: >> >> Linkname: IBM Enhanced HOLDDATA for z/OS and OS/390 >> URL: http://service.software.ibm.com/holdata/390holddata.html >> ... > >It's much simpler to follow Mark's suggestion. Always get

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread zMan
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: > And potentially the most dangerous: inflammable. Mmm, no... "inflammable" is NEVER the opposite of "flammable". That would just be wrong. -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it"

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Gerhard Adam
>A file or database gets corrupted Tuesday evening and Wednesday >morning review catches it. Meanwhile further updates have been done. >How simple is the recovery and damage limitation process? This is >just on scenario of failures that can take much time to fix. The problem with all these "what

JCL

2010-09-03 Thread Ron Thomas
Hi,av I have a o/p file in the 1'st 5 bytes the data is a comp field s9(9) comp, using a jcl i need to o/p as a numeric data, how we can do this? Regards Ron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, s

Re: Storage not freed in IPCS dump

2010-09-03 Thread Santosh Kandi
It depends. It could be allocated and not getmained. The more accurate way to find out is to use: VERBX VSMDATA 'SUMMARY NOASIDS' (For global memory) or VERBX VSMDATA 'NOGLOBAL SUMM ASID()' (For local memory) >From there you should be able to find out if its allocated or free. Look in MVS

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 9/3/2010 9:32 AM, Bill Fairchild wrote: Sighting vs. citing, homophones, etc.: Then there are all the Janus words, which are spelled the same, pronounced the same, but have opposite meanings Fortunately, there are not many. Here are a few in English: And potentially the most dangerous: inf

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Howard Brazee
On 3 Sep 2010 07:22:45 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: >And in common English: > >Generic is something that is general, common, or inclusive rather than >specific, unique, or selective. (wikipedia) > >Esoteric knowledge, in the dictionary (non-scholarly) sense, is thus that >

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Howard Brazee
On 3 Sep 2010 06:39:47 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) wrote: >One of the many reasons that I prefer computer languages. They are not >ambiguous. >Well, they shouldn't be. I guess you could design one where the meaning of a >statement >is not defined unambiguously. But it i

Re: Smpe holdata

2010-09-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:29:06 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote: > >The full.txt file has holddata for the previous year. I always pull that >one anytime I use that site to obtain holddata. There's nothing wrong >with re-receiving holddata that you've already received once. > It didn't used to matter which

Re: Smpe holdata

2010-09-03 Thread John Eells
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:25:24 -0400, Tim Brown wrote: Is the month.txt file for smp/e holddata on the ibm ftp site the current file one should get prior to an apply. What is the full.txt for. From the URL you cited yesterday: Linkname: IBM Enhanced HOLDDATA for z/O

Re: Smpe holdata

2010-09-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:25:24 -0400, Tim Brown wrote: >Is the month.txt file for smp/e holddata on the ibm ftp site >the current file one should get prior to an apply. > >What is the full.txt for. > >From the URL you cited yesterday: Linkname: IBM Enhanced HOLDDATA for z/OS and OS/390 U

Re: Smpe holdata

2010-09-03 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 09/03/10 10:25, Tim Brown wrote: Is the month.txt file for smp/e holddata on the ibm ftp site the current file one should get prior to an apply. What is the full.txt for. Tim Brown Systems Specialist - Project Leader Central Hudson Gas& Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email:

Smpe holdata

2010-09-03 Thread Tim Brown
Is the month.txt file for smp/e holddata on the ibm ftp site the current file one should get prior to an apply. What is the full.txt for. Tim Brown Systems Specialist - Project Leader Central Hudson Gas & Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: tbr...@cenhud.com <

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:38:59 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > >One of the many reasons that I prefer computer languages. They are not >ambiguous. Well, they shouldn't be. I guess you could design one where the >meaning of a statement is not defined unambiguously. But it is definately >implemented una

Fwd: IBM and Texas – Outsourcing troubles part two

2010-09-03 Thread Anton Britz
Hi, Did you see this article ? Several threats and a long letter detailing what it calls “chronic failures” of agreed service levels, Texas has made another move in its efforts to fix a seven-year, $863 million outsourcing contract with IBM that’s gone bad. The Texas Department of Information Re

Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-09-03 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
l...@garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes: > side-effect of unbundling, starting to charge for software, and > gov. looking over your shoulder ... misc. posts mentioning 23jun69 > unbundling > http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#84 Set n

IT staff integration?

2010-09-03 Thread McKown, John
I'm just curious if any shops out there have really integrated staffs between the mainframe and "distributed" groups. Do your mainframe application folks also write "distributed" applications? Do your mainframe sysprogs also act as Linux sysadmins and/or Windows server admins? Are your z/VM and

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Clark Morris
On 2 Sep 2010 22:29:28 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >At 12:16 -0700 on 09/02/2010, Gerhard Adam wrote about Re: Virginia DOT outage: > >> >Having been in on a couple of recovery actions due to major files >>>getting fouled up, I can believe that things could take up to a week. >> >>

Re: Another zFS conversion question

2010-09-03 Thread Schwartz, Alan
I'd prefer that but z/OS is sent to us with the files as SYS1 so that's what I have to use. Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Wood Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 12:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: An

Re: Another zFS conversion question

2010-09-03 Thread Schwartz, Alan
They are SYS1's but I wasn't sure if Recatalog would work for the linears. That won't be a problem. Thanks Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Avram Friedman
My take on this issue. I am a mainframe / DBMS advocate so of course I think there is some sort of general flaw in a move of critical applications to smaller less understood systems. Think there are 3 parts to this problem 1. The triger failure its self which was hardware. 2. Work flow and o

Re: Identify IP OSA

2010-09-03 Thread McKown, John
I'm not sure that I really understand what you want. I have an OSA. It has three different IP addresses, depending on the stack accessing it. But you may want the z/OS operator command: D TCPIP,,NETSTAT,HOME which on one of my systems reports: RESPONSE=LIH1 EZZ2500I NETSTAT CS V1R10 TCPIP 011

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread zMan
6. let -- allow, stop (e.g., in tennis) On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Bill Fairchild wrote: > Sighting vs. citing, homophones, etc.: > > Then there are all the Janus words, which are spelled the same, pronounced > the same, but have opposite meanings   Fortunately, there are not many.  Here >

Re: Identify IP OSA

2010-09-03 Thread Clark, Kevin
Try NETSTAT GATE -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of HELIO Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Identify IP OSA All list, I need to identify the IP of an OSA. Does anyone know the co

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 8:32 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Virginia DOT outage > > Sighting vs. citing, homophones, etc.: > > Then there are al

Re: Identify IP OSA

2010-09-03 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
M Use the 'NETSTAT HOME' command from a TSO READY prompt.  Thanks, Mark Regan From: HELIO To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 9:35:47 AM Subject: Identify IP OSA All list, I need to identify the IP of an OSA. Does anyone know the command t

Identify IP OSA

2010-09-03 Thread HELIO
All list, I need to identify the IP of an OSA. Does anyone know the command that I can used? Thanks. -- *Hélio José da Silva ***// -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Bill Fairchild
Sighting vs. citing, homophones, etc.: Then there are all the Janus words, which are spelled the same, pronounced the same, but have opposite meanings Fortunately, there are not many. Here are a few in English: 1. cleave - to stick together or to be torn apart 2. oversight - watching over o

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-03 Thread Howard Brazee
I had a dBase application that I sent out, with full directions and routine to do backups. When a user's copy got corrupted, she realized that she usually neglected this option and before calling for help, backed up the corrupted copy over her one good backup. -

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-03 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 09/02/2010 08:13 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > In <4c7fff76.4000...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 09/02/2010 >at 09:48 PM, "R.S." said: > >> More functionality is usually better. > > FSVO functionality. Adding options without thinking them through > usually makes things worse. > Gosh

Re: Molly Malone (was:RE: Set numbers off permanently.)

2010-09-03 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > > > > I thought that I knew the entire Allan Sherman oeuvr

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