Re: JES2 Control Block

2010-10-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>If I see in sdsf, the job numbe on ST panel is different and the job number in >the jesmsglg is diff, so Jes should be able to match these two or may be it >does something else to ensure this. JES2 doesn't match anything. The job comes back from the node it was transmitted to, but the number wi

Re: JES2 Control Block

2010-10-14 Thread Anthony Thompson
As Ted said. The NJE job headers only bother to record the job number assigned on the originating node as the job travels through the various nodes. Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of vatsal raicha Sent: Thursday, 14 Oc

Re: Using ADDRESS SDSF in OPS/MVS

2010-10-14 Thread Sebastian Welton
For running Address SDSF under NetView I had to code the following: isfjesname = 'JES2' before the ISFCALLS(ON) mainly because NetView is started with SUB=MSTR and so doesn't run under JES2. Maybe the same for OPS/MVS? Sebastian --

Control-D replacement?

2010-10-14 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Control-D bundling function uses indexing method to create report bundles which does not really creates new files. The products I looked into, uses a different technology that creates a phisical report file for each user. I wonder if there are other products that uses mainframe created files to do

Re: JES2 Control Block

2010-10-14 Thread Ron Hawkins
Anthony, Back at a site where this was important we used to manage the job number problem by assigning ranges to each JES2. Jobs submitted in Melbourne got 0-1000 and 3000 to 3999, and jobs submitted in Sydney got 2000 to 2999. This meant that when a job was submitted in Melbourne and run in Sydne

FW: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread Ron Hawkins
All, I know what it is, but I never really knew what it stood for. One reference I found, the only one, says it means The "SHARE Committee for Imbibers, Drinkers and Sots." Is this correct? Ron -- For IBM-MAIN su

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Brian Westerman
Yes. Like one of the previous posters to this thread the company I work for used to offer a "service" of "testing the site's defenses" that we called a "System Access Security Audit" (SASA). This audit was completely unlike our normal System Audit which we still perform. The current System Aud

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Done that many times during security assessments at customers sites. for example, Look at your SYS1.UADS dataset and compare it to RACF. You probably will find users that are defined in your UADS dataset, but not in RACF. More then that, IBM's ships UADS dataset with few users that probably not def

Re: FW: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
I'd always heard Social Conversation in a Drunken Stupor. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://b

Re: FW: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread zMan
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: > I'd always heard Social Conversation in a Drunken Stupor. And I'd heard SHARE Collection of Inebriates, Drunkards, and Sots. But I was also told that the true origin was losts in the mists of time. -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'

Re: How many CPACFs do I have on z10 EC model E12?

2010-10-14 Thread Jim Elliott, IBM
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:26:30 -0700, Phil Smith wrote: >Yes. CPACF is millicode, and is logically "on the die" with our old friends LA and MVC and ST (I'm actually guessing that it really IS mostly on the die, and the millicode just enables it, but I don't really know that). > >...phsiii Phil: T

Re: How many CPACFs do I have on z10 EC model E12?

2010-10-14 Thread Phil Smith
Jim Elliott wrote: >The Central Processor Assist for Cryptographic Function (CPACF) is a >coprocessor that uses the DES, TDES, AES-128, AES-256, SHA-1, and SHA-256 >ciphers to perform symmetric key encryption and calculate message digests in >hardware. DES, TDES, AES-128, and AES-256 are used for s

Re: FW: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread Bob Shannon
> And I'd heard SHARE Collection of Inebriates, Drunkards, and Sots That's the definition I'd heard, but I don't think anyone really knows what SCIDS stands for. Q: What does SHARE stand for? A: SHARE is not an acronym. It stood for "sharing" information. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -

Re: Different versions of PTFs from IBM

2010-10-14 Thread John Eells
There should *never* be two versions of any PTF released outside IBM. If you really got two copies of a PTF that are not exactly the same, this is a problem you should report to the support center. Note that ++ASSIGN statements are not a part of PTFs, even though they are in the same file as t

Re: FW: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread Tom Harper
Share Conference Informal Discussion Groups is the original name. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FW: The meaning of SCIDS. > And I

Re: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread Shane
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 06:12:12 -0400 zMan wrote: > And I'd heard SHARE Collection of Inebriates, Drunkards, and Sots. Well in that case, I certainly did my bit. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instr

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-14 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dave Kopischke > > [ snip ] > > > >As for the original question, I'll quote the OP: "His question was why can't > >mvs use scsi or san dasd, VSE and VM can." That does not look like a price > >gouging claim to me. I be

Re: FW: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread Ron Hawkins
That sounds quite reasonable. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Tom Harper > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 4:41 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] FW: The meaning of SCIDS. > > Share Conference I

Re: Using ADDRESS SDSF in OPS/MVS

2010-10-14 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:43 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Using ADDRESS SDSF in OPS/MVS > > >home='' > >home=environment('HOME') > > Not as a cr

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-14 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:11:33 -0500, Chase, John wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dave Kopischke >> >> Google a price for this: >> >> SEAGATE ST3500320NS465.76 GiB > >CDW's website says: "This product was discontinued as of Wednesday,

Re: FW: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz > > I'd always heard Social Conversation in a Drunken Stupor. "SHARE Conference Independent Communication Session". :-) -jc- -

Re: EZASOKET returns zero for socket descriptor in SOCKET call.

2010-10-14 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of ?? ??? > (Nagesh S) > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:17 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: EZASOKET returns zero for socket descriptor in SOCKET call. > > Hi, > F

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Lindy Mayfield
I didn't see anyone explicitly mention "social engineering". IMO this may be an easier way to get a not-very-technical user's id, but then you are back to how to hack with a "normal" user TSO account. But if a system guy gave out a password for an reason then, well, you know. What about diggi

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-14 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 06:17:04 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >And, then what did your comment mean, about my e-mail address? He didn't say anything about your email address. What he wrote, and what you quoted was, "Based on your email do you think" The question was in regards to the email __mess

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-14 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd > > That's correct. It is not. For you to cl

Re: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread J R
> "SHARE Conference Independent Communication Session". :-) That would be "SCICS"! :-( > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:42:20 -0500 > From: jch...@ussco.com > Subject: Re: FW: The meaning of SCIDS. > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion Li

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I think that sig is meant in jest. Of course it is! If people are taking it seriously ... - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send em

Re: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread zMan
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:13 AM, J R wrote: >> "SHARE Conference Independent Communication Session". :-) > > That would be "SCICS"!  :-( Yeah, but back then, there was hard liquor at SCIDS, so they spelled it wrong... -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" --

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-14 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
On 10/14/2010 3:17 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: I think that sig is meant in jest. Of course it is! If people are taking it seriously ... - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / sig

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 18:38 -0400, Rick Fochtman wrote: > I ALWAYS left the IBMUSER active on the system but the first thing I > also did was to change to password to some very obscure value. A *very* long time ago, before a few ibm-mainers were born, there was an early public-access packet switc

Opcode tables

2010-10-14 Thread Abe F. Kornelis
All, (message cross-posted to other assembler-related lists) I have all but completed the updates of the opcode tables on hlasm.com There's a peculiarity I'd like to discuss here. Various instructions have been introduced over the last couple of years that are a kind of umbrella operation. They

Re: EZASOKET returns zero for socket descriptor in SOCKET call.

2010-10-14 Thread Charles Mills
I have seen the same "problem." I ported some Windows socket code to z/OS. The Windows code treated a return of <= 0 as an error. However, the documentation states that a return of less than zero indicates an error. Changing it to check for < 0 was an easy fix, and the code remained portable back t

Re: FW: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread Pitsanuk, Tim
For the non-imbibers, I heard Share Conference Informal Discussion Sessions -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FW: The meaning of SCID

Re: Different versions of PTFs from IBM

2010-10-14 Thread Mike Schwab
I am wondering if the old one he has was a pre-release test version? On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:50 AM, John Eells wrote: > There should *never* be two versions of any PTF released outside IBM. If you > really got two copies of a PTF that are not exactly the same, this is a > problem you should rep

Re: FW: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread Schumacher, Otto
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Re: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread Andrew Mathe
Social Contact and Informal Discussion Sessions From: J R To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 10/14/2010 08:14 AM Subject: Re: The meaning of SCIDS. Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > "SHARE Conference Independent Communication Session". :-) That would be "SCICS"! :-( > Date: Th

Connect to Grid via TCP/IP

2010-10-14 Thread Victor Gil
Good morning listers, We are researching a rather unusual approach to redirect our high-volume VSAM I/O to a Grid server that would act as a real-time cached image of the data. >From the little I know, the server will be connected through TCP/IP and once a connection is established all the REA

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread David Cole
At 10/13/2010 10:26 AM, Greg Shirey wrote: I liked this article, and it's fairly recent. (Jan 2010) http://www.mainframezone.com/it-management/mainframe-hacking-fact-or-fiction/P1 Greg I read that article, and it is a good one. Interestingly (to me at least), on the article's third web page

Re: Connect to Grid via TCP/IP

2010-10-14 Thread Hal Merritt
A gotcha is the actual network data throughput*. Very likely that it will be unacceptably slow. I would imagine you would have a lot of application programming to do as well as some expensive infrastructure to put in place. At the end of the day, a nice DS8xxx DASD unit would likely cost a lot

Re: FW: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
maryanne4...@gmail.com (Mary Anne Matyaz) writes: > I'd always heard Social Conversation in a Drunken Stupor. the definition I was told in the 60s was the Society for Continuous Inebreation During Share back in the days of open bar ... and one of the activities was seeing how many bottles could

Re: Connect to Grid via TCP/IP

2010-10-14 Thread McKown, John
Performance? I have no idea. Hope you have a 10GBe network infrastructure. A port can be "in use" for many concurrent sessions. Remember that only one session can be sending data at a time, per OSA. How many concurrent sessions? I'm fairly sure that the theoritical limit is 64K sockets. For z/O

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-14 Thread Mike Schwab
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:11 AM, McKown, John wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant >> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:58 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >> Subject: Re: When will MVS be able to use

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-14 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:29 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd > Notice: This email has been sent to a publicl

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-14 Thread Mike Schwab
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:46 AM, McKown, John wrote: <> >> -- >> Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA >> Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? > > I do have permission from my manager to post via my work account. But you > have a very good point. I just got a new gmail account for my p

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-14 Thread Bill Fairchild
Is this hypothetical forest ranger rappelling up the skyscraper or being repelled up the skyscraper by the pressure of the human throngs down on the street? Probably both. Oh, well. It's almost Friday again. :-) Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe D

Re: Different versions of PTFs from IBM

2010-10-14 Thread John Eells
None such should ever escape IBM. Externally, it is allowed to have multiple ++APAR fixes, but one and only one ++PTF with a given PTF number. Although I can't assert it has never happened, I have personally never heard of two versions of a PTF ever being shipped to a customer. Mike Schwab w

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd - 24/7 DASD on PCs

2010-10-14 Thread David Cole
At 10/8/2010 03:35 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: -- My 2 cents worth: the "cheap DASD" doesn't live up to the reliability standards that IBM demands for z/OS. Stop and think, really hard, about the demands on z/OS DASD storage, as o

Re: Different versions of PTFs from IBM

2010-10-14 Thread Doug Henry
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:50:58 -0400, John Eells wrote: >There should *never* be two versions of any PTF released outside IBM. > >Yannig Guiomard wrote: >> I have some questions about the manner that PTFs are distributed, which I >> hope someone can clear up for me! >> >> Take PTF UA54182, which I

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-14 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#62 When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#65 When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd post from similar thread in this n.g. from 2007 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007h.html#13 Question on DASD Hardware with refere

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Lindy Mayfield
What would constitute a "root kit" for MVS? Perhaps an SVC with some hidden functionality? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Cole Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Mainfram

Using ADDRESS SDSF in OPS/MVS

2010-10-14 Thread Burge, Richard
I don't know why the home='' code. I didn't code that part. I also tried the Isfjesname = 'JES2' with the same RC=-3 results. This is all the code that I need to reproduce the error Calling it this way works >> tso exec (sdsf1) exec Executing OPS/REXX with !OI , gives RC(-3) ZADDRB

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Ray Overby
-Some code that is executing in an authorized state - Supervisor state - PSW key 0-7 - Ability to issue MODESET SVC (APF authorized) -This code would have one of the following flaws: - Store into requester provided storage address while in an authorized s

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
d...@lists.duda.com (David Andrews) writes: > You could stay up all night typing in random subscriber IDs to see what > you would get. It didn't take long to discover that the first three > digits of a subscriber ID was the telephone area code of the subscriber. > That cut down on the search space

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Bill Fairchild
I would think it means code that front-ends one of the First Level Interrupt Handlers, rather like the one that CA was using in 1996 (are they still using it?) to front-end program interrupts so that various CA products could easily become authorized by merely executing a particular invalid oper

Re: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of J R > > > "SHARE Conference Independent Communication Session". :-) > > That would be "SCICS"! :-( Oops! Showing my subsystem bias. :-) C /Communication/Discussion/ -jc-

VTS NL Tapes

2010-10-14 Thread Mark Steely
We have several tapes that are not initialized and when the job executes it abends trying to use these tapes. I thought CA-1 was suppose to automatically init the tapes but that is not happening. I am trying to init the tapes using IEHINIT, the problem is these tapes are in a different library a

Re: Using ADDRESS SDSF in OPS/MVS

2010-10-14 Thread Lizette Koehler
Richard, Have you opened a case with CA OPS/MVS? I find they are very helpful with these kinds of questions. Lizette -Original Message- >From: "Burge, Richard" >Sent: Oct 14, 2010 11:51 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >Subject: Using ADDRESS SDSF in OPS/MVS > >I don't know why the home=

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Some of this sounds like the "magic svcs" that I've seen people use for "testing". -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ray Overby Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 6:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Mainframe hacking

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Ray Overby
The "returning in an authorized state" ones are exactly that. The others are typically the result of poor coding and/or design. On 10/14/2010 11:43 AM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: Some of this sounds like the "magic svcs" that I've seen people use for "testing". -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Ricc Harding
Yes Ed, these sites all had RACF installed and yes, it still required the VTOC "data set is RACF protected bit" to be flipped for the data set protection call to even be made. The needed resource manager calls became more apparent as the resources which were being protected grew. The ACF2 "protect

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
... oh, and the software company (front for criminal organization) apparently was selected on the basis of being the low bidder. -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 -- For IBM-MAIN subscri

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread David Cole
At 10/14/2010 12:24 PM, Chris Craddock wrote: (as Bob knows) it is impossible to create/install a malicious FLIH or SVC or PC without already having the keys to the kingdom anyway. That is the foundation of integrity and the reason why the installation has to appropriately protect system datase

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Lindy Mayfield
The whole point, I think, is to get it by the system's guys. Not sure how to do that. So much easier on Windows. Still there are coming more and more "freeware" MVS utilities, like showmvs. (It can run authorized I think, yes?) I don't think that it is that carefully audited, somebody could

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
p...@voltage.com (Phil Smith) writes: > Long ago and far away, a friend was looking at the VSE microfiche and > found an undocumented SVC that stored the top half of a register value > in the address contained in the bottom half of the register. He > promptly wrote a program that used that SVC to g

Re: VTS NL Tapes

2010-10-14 Thread Mark Steely
Thanks for the information - I forgot about the OLDTAPE option. I updated the unit to point to the other library and that job worked. Thanks again. -Original Message- From: Campbell Jay [mailto:james.l.campb...@irs.gov] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:16 AM To: Mark Steely Subject

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Chris Craddock
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Bob Shannon wrote: > > I would think it means code that front-ends one of the First Level > Interrupt Handlers > > That's how Amdahl implemented SE and SP assist years ago. I think IBM did > it to implement the IEEE floating point instructions so that they would w

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Phil Smith
Lindy Mayfield wrote: >What would constitute a "root kit" for MVS?  Perhaps an SVC with some hidden >functionality? Long ago and far away, a friend was looking at the VSE microfiche and found an undocumented SVC that stored the top half of a register value in the address contained in the bottom

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Bob Shannon
> I would think it means code that front-ends one of the First Level Interrupt > Handlers That's how Amdahl implemented SE and SP assist years ago. I think IBM did it to implement the IEEE floating point instructions so that they would work on processors that lacked the hardware. Of course thes

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Dr. Stephen Fedtke
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Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Ray Overby
-The sad news is that integrity exposures exist today in every z/OS system. There is no need to install anything other than what you already have installed. -These integrity exposures have already gotten past the "system's guys". - Current systems programmers (in general) do not hav

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Clark Morris
On 14 Oct 2010 05:56:48 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >I didn't see anyone explicitly mention "social engineering". IMO this may be >an easier way to get a not-very-technical user's id, but then you are back to >how to hack with a "normal" user TSO account. But if a system guy gav

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Ricc, Yes, APF authorization still allows the keys to the kingdom. That is why installations are expected to severely limit update access to APF authorized load libraries, the SETPROG MVS command, all datasets in the PARMLIB concatenation and all libraries defined as system level PROCLIBS. If

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:25 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Mainframe hacking? > > The whole point, I think, is to get it by the system's guys.

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Clark Morris
On 14 Oct 2010 07:24:01 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >At 10/13/2010 10:26 AM, Greg Shirey wrote: >>I liked this article, and it's fairly recent. (Jan 2010) >> >>http://www.mainframezone.com/it-management/mainframe-hacking-fact-or-fiction/P1 >> >>Greg > >I read that article, and it i

STIMER(M) EXIT= question

2010-10-14 Thread Paul Schuster
Hello: Suppose you code something like this: STIMER(M) SET BINTVL=1 second, EXIT=exitaddress,WAIT=NO So the application program continues to run, and then 1 second later the timer interrupt happens. The ASM MACROS documentation says the exitaddress routine will get control at some point after t

Re: STIMER(M) EXIT= question

2010-10-14 Thread Tom Harper
Paul, Here is the answer: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2A8B0/22.1.5?SHELF=iea2bkb0&DT=20100629141054 Basically, it states that if the TCB is waiting, it is given control immediately. Otherwise, any interrupt, such as a page fault, may allow it to begin executio

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-14 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:21:16 -0700, Ron Hawkins wrote: >I really struggle with the fact that you think that the cost of goods for a >disk drive assembly includes the disk drive and nothing else. Would you >argue with David Bowie or Amazon about the price you pay for a CD that you >can buy at Fry's

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-14 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:11:33 -0500, Chase, John wrote: >> >> SEAGATE ST3500320NS465.76 GiB > >CDW's website says: "This product was discontinued as of Wednesday, >July 21, 2010. Call for availability." > >Their price: $95.99. > Now what are we going to do ?!?!?!?!?! ;) ---

Why some programs are authorized Was: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Lindy Mayfield
This has been a curiosity of mine of late. Why are on some systems, for example DELETE and LISTCAT authorized in IKJTSOxx? And some systems they aren't? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent: Thursday, Octob

New Z10 install [was Re: ... cheap dasd]

2010-10-14 Thread Greg Smith
We are planning to install new z10s into two data centers that do not currently have mainframes. I'm not sure if we are planning to have standalone tape drives (we will have vtls). What is the process to install z/os 1.12 in this scenario? I was hoping we could load some kind of starter system fro

Re: Why some programs are authorized Was: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:43:31 +0200, Lindy Mayfield wrote: >This has been a curiosity of mine of late. Why are on some systems, for example DELETE and LISTCAT authorized in IKJTSOxx? And some systems they aren't? I don't know the answer to LISTCAT. For DELETE, some operations that DELETE perfor

Re: Why some programs are authorized Was: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Rob Scott
I thought that IEBCOPY being authorized was due to a (possible archaic) facility to invoke certain I/O appendage routines. IDCAMS and its subcommands must be able to invoke auth services to satisfy certain invocations - no surprise to find it in AUTHPGM. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software

Re: New Z10 install [was Re: ... cheap dasd]

2010-10-14 Thread Hal Merritt
Your business partner and/or IBM would be my first choice for a start up plan. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Smith Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: New Z10 install [wa

Re: Mainframe hacking?

2010-10-14 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield > > The whole point, I think, is to get it by the system's guys. Not sure how to do that. So much easier > on Windows. Still there are coming more and more "freeware" MVS utilities, like showmvs. (It

Re: FW: The meaning of SCIDS.

2010-10-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:58:08 +, Bob Shannon wrote: >> And I'd heard SHARE Collection of Inebriates, Drunkards, and Sots > >That's the definition I'd heard, but I don't think anyone really knows what >SCIDS stands for. > >Q: What does SHARE stand for? >A: SHARE is not an acronym. It stood for

Re: STIMER(M) EXIT= question

2010-10-14 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:04:53 -0500 Paul Schuster wrote: :>Suppose you code something like this: :>STIMER(M) SET BINTVL=1 second, EXIT=exitaddress,WAIT=NO :>So the application program continues to run, and then 1 second later the :>timer interrupt happens. The ASM MACROS documentation says the e

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-14 Thread Pratt Parrish
Bus-Tech has a zDASD product as you have described. I am not aware that StorageTek has such a product. Based on my web searches and searching the Oracle (STK) website, I found no listing for zDASD by StorageTek. Pratt Parrish | WW Manager of Channel Development and Marketing | Bus-Tech, Inc. --

Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd

2010-10-14 Thread Mike Schwab
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Pommier, Rex R. wrote: > XIV supporting z/OS roadmap?  Can you point me at something official that > says this?  I would like to look at the XIV but I was told by our VAR that > XIV supporting FICON and (emulated) CKD isn't in the works. > > I for one would love

Re: New Z10 install [was Re: ... cheap dasd]

2010-10-14 Thread John Eells
We have, as I alluded to yesterday, a workaround until the Customized Offerings Driver is orderable on DVD next year. You can have your IBM representative or business partner send me a note and I can get them in touch with the right people. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Disc

PAGE FIX

2010-10-14 Thread Larry Crilley
I seem to recall, but old age is having its way with me today. Isn't there a way to dynamically determine if a page is fixed?? Any jarring of the memory is greatly appreciated. Larry Crilley Dino-Software Corporation 800.480.DINO 412.366.3566 www.dino-software.com http://www

Re: New Z10 install [was Re: ... cheap dasd]

2010-10-14 Thread Steve Comstock
On 10/14/2010 12:57 PM, Greg Smith wrote: We are planning to install new z10s into two data centers that do not currently have mainframes. I'm not sure if we are planning to have standalone tape drives (we will have vtls). What is the process to install z/os 1.12 in this scenario? I was hoping w

EREP dump readout for MCIC

2010-10-14 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
Hi listners. I was checking erep output to try to discover more about MCIC (Machine Check Interruption Code) and found following register, but I checked 02 Erep manuals, (User´s Guide Manual and Reference Manual), but can´t found any description how to readout these little dump. We are runni

Re: PAGE FIX

2010-10-14 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:37:37 -0400 Larry Crilley wrote: :>I seem to recall, but old age is having its way with me today. :>Isn't there a way to dynamically determine if a page is fixed?? It is a wrong question, because if your process did not FIX it the process that did may free/unfix it. -- B

Re: PAGE FIX

2010-10-14 Thread Larry Crilley
Sure. I just want to determine if a page is fixed. I'm not saying I want to free/unfix it. I just want to know... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 4:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama

Re: PAGE FIX

2010-10-14 Thread David Kreiss
Try a PGSER OUT against the page. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Crilley Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 2:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PAGE FIX Sure. I just want to determine if a page is fixed.

Re: PAGE FIX

2010-10-14 Thread Chris Craddock
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Larry Crilley < larry.cril...@dino-software.com> wrote: > Sure. I just want to determine if a page is fixed. I'm not saying I want > to free/unfix it. I just want to know... so far as I know, there is no way to tell in general. There are some obvious corner c

Re: HSM dumps to specific volser

2010-10-14 Thread Cheryl Smith
I have added SETSYS SELECTVOLUME(DUMP(SPECIFIC)) with the same results. It still wants a PRIVAT tape on the other SDLT drive, rather than going for a tape that is listed as AVAILABLE in its own list of DUMP volumes. -- For

FW: PAGE FIX

2010-10-14 Thread Larry Crilley
That is an interesting idea. I could PGSER out. If successful, I know the page(s) are NOT fixed. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Kreiss Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re:

Re: PAGE FIX

2010-10-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>> Sure. I just want to determine if a page is fixed. I'm not saying I want > to free/unfix it. I just want to know... Just out of curiosity: why do you need to know? I've, as a capacity/performance analyst, have only been concerned about the overall fixed, or number per job, both obtainable

Re: PAGE FIX

2010-10-14 Thread Jim Mulder
> Sure. I just want to determine if a page is fixed. I'm not saying I want > to free/unfix it. I just want to know... > :>I seem to recall, but old age is having its way with me today. > > :>Isn't there a way to dynamically determine if a page is fixed?? > > It is a wrong question, because i

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