>Granted, that does not mean use obscure words that are
>not generally in use. But there does need to be some level
>of assumption about the intelligence of the members.
You'll surely gonna explain to me what intelligence has to
do with the knowledge of a foreign language? Remember, there
many
>The calling of him naive was also insulting.
Not the first time by honorable Mr. Gilmore.
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>If you do not have UID(0) then you also need
>read access to BPX.FILEATTR.PROGCTL BPX.FILEATTR.APF
>and BPX.FILEATTR.SHARELIB.
You need those even if you're running uid=0.
To change these extended attributes, you need
READ on the corresponding BPX.FILEATTR profile
*and* you either need to run
Mark Zelden pisze:
A more common example (and well documented within the product) is
Java. The installer must have those attributes if they aren't running
as UID(0).
AFAIR the BPX.FILEATTR.y profiles are independent from UID(0). In
other words even UID(0) cannot use extattr.
That's qu
"Barbara Nitz" wrote in message
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> >Yes, this is the JCL I found, but this only targets some PSA areas
and
> >not with x'FF' and x'4F' as you said.
> The FF and 4F come from the DIAG traps. And I think I copied the JCL
from
> share presentation 'bit bucket 29'. And believe me, when I saw
>We IPLed our testsystems with the traps on this morning and had some
>great fireworks (TSS)!
>
>Just to be sure: do the traps only pollute storage that is not
>documented to be set to zeros? In other words, do they leave storage
>unmodified that is documented to be returned initialized to zeros?
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Bill Fairchild wrote:
> BTW, I finally found an online definition of Rob Scott's words "cromulent"
> and "embiggins".
>
This page
http://www.cracked.com/article_15269_from-cromulent-to-craptacular-top-12-simpsons-created-words_p2.html
used to have a video of the a
The DIAG traps mentioned by Barbara N are not intended for general use.
That is why they are not documented.
To be frank: as with anything that you "find", you may try them, but aside
from problems due to IgvInitGetmain, you should not expect changes in
IBM code for situations (not necessari
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
> The
> latter refers to a style of writing where alternate lines are written from
> left to right and right to left (it is a reference to a method of plowing a
> field where when you reach the end of a row you turn around and plow the
>
Well, he oughta be *the* definitive expert ...
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On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 10:27:37 +0100, R.S. wrote:
>Mark Zelden pisze:
>> A more common example (and well documented within the product) is
>> Java. The installer must have those attributes if they aren't running
>> as UID(0).
>>
>
>AFAIR the BPX.FILEATTR.y profiles are independent from UID(0).
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 07:52:03 -0400, Peter Relson wrote:
>
>Perhaps the IBM-Main community can help come up with a way to document
>"things to play with" which would likely go with "but do not waste level
>2's time for things that you find when playing". These play items are
>typically for looking
Thanks all for your responses both on and off this list. This is why I like
our SHAREing community.
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I'm trying to do a multi-line WTO, potentially with a CART and a CONSID.
(CART and CONSID are zeros in this test, because I am testing in batch.) I
have followed *very* closely the example in the Authorized Assembler
Services Guide Section 7-12, "Assembler example with CMDX control block,
multi-lin
Depending upon the type of WTO, you might have to set R0 = 0.
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Thanks. Did that. No help. As I said, I followed the example very closely.
Charles
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>Subject: WTO ABEND D23 help
>
>I'm trying to do a multi-line WTO, potentially with a CART and a CONSID.
>(CART and CONSID are zeros in this test, because I am testing in batch.) I
>have followed *
WTO is one of those services that you must prime the parameter list with a
model before you use the MF=E form
Example :
MVC WA_WTO_PLIST,LC_WTO Prime WTO plist with model
WTO blah,MF=(E,WA_WTO_PLIST)
...
...
*---
* Local constants
*
I believe that you must set R0 to 0 before issuing the MLWTO.
Thanks;
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I am currently working on rewriting our SMF Dump process.
I was wondering on a quiet system, if I issue an I SMF command, about how long
till the switch? I am seeing about 1.5 mins from command to switch.
Lizette
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"Mark Zelden" wrote in message
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> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 07:52:03 -0400, Peter Relson
wrote:
>
> >
> >Perhaps the IBM-Main community can help come up with a way to
document
> >"things to play with" which would likely go with "but do not waste
level
> >2's time for things that you find when p
Less than 2 seconds.
10:03:54.28 MARPACE 0290 I SMF
10:03:54.32 INTERNAL 0290 START DUMPXY,FILENM=SYS1.MAN2
10:03:54.32 0090 IEFU29 HAS ISSUED 'START
DUMPXY,FILENM=SYS1.MAN2
'
10:03:54.32 0290 IEF196I IEFU29 HAS IS
Thanks all. Not sure what did it but it's working now. Just kept tweaking
stuff. Gosh, WTO is sensitive and convoluted.
BTW, yes, I was initializing the MF=L area and yes, you have to be authorized
to use CONNECT (also there are line number limits, but I am not hitting them).
Charles
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"Lizette Koehler" wrote in message
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> I am currently working on rewriting our SMF Dump process.
>
> I was wondering on a quiet system, if I issue an I SMF command, about
how long till the switch? I am seeing about 1.
>I was wondering on a quiet system, if I issue an I SMF command, about how long
>till the switch?
>I am seeing about 1.5 mins from command to switch.
Why are you complaining?
If that's what you're doing.
Anything under 5 is good.
Regardless of busy.
It's NOT a high priority function.
It happens
"Lizette Koehler" wrote in message
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> I am currently working on rewriting our SMF Dump process.
>
> I was wondering on a quiet system, if I issue an I SMF command, about
how long till the switch? I am seeing about 1.
>To change these extended attributes, you need
>READ on the corresponding BPX.FILEATTR profile
>*and* you either need to run uid=0 or be the onwer
>of the file.
BTW, if you don't have a strong need to differentiate
between people allowed to set one of the bits versus
other people to set a differe
How about a quiet, small system?
About 3 seconds.
09:13:58.29 RRP 0290 I SMF
09:14:01.91 INTERNAL 0290 START DUMPXY,DSNAME=SYS1.MAN2
09:14:01.91 0090 IEFU29 HAS ISSUED 'START DUMPXY,DSNAME=SYS1.MAN2
'
09:14:01.92
If you are collecting type 19 records, then SMF has to gather the data for them
from online DASD volumes at every switch. If you happen to run into volumes
with SYSVTOC enqueues, it can take a LONG, LONG time. 30 minutes is not
uncommon for us.
Dave Quinton
State of North Carolina
Administrat
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 10:01:38 -0400, Lizette Koehler
wrote:
>I am currently working on rewriting our SMF Dump process.
>
>I was wondering on a quiet system, if I issue an I SMF command, about how
long till the switch? I am seeing about 1.5 mins from command to switch.
>
Not too bad since I assum
Lizette,
If you are collection type 19 records then every switch will have to "touch"
all online DASD volumes for information. So the more online DASD the longer
the switch. We never did anything with the SMF 19's so we don't collect them
at all anymore. On our busy PROD lpar with about 10K
On my production system during prime shift (not "quiet") it took about
35 seconds.
09:51:02.00 $TCK 0290 I SMF
09:51:36.49 INTERNAL 0290 START DUMPSMF,DSNAME=SYS1.MAN1
09:51:36.50 0281 IEE360I SMF NOW RECORDING ON SYS1.MAN2 ON
SYSC02 TIME=09.51.36
09:51:37.31 STC22057 0
Hi Peter,
Not according to SMP/E V3R5.0 for z/OS V1R11.0 User's Guide
3.8 Checking that you have the appropriate access
© Copyright IBM Corp. 1986, 2009
Topic lines 1
Doug Henry pisze:
Hi Peter,
Not according to SMP/E V3R5.0 for z/OS V1R11.0 User's Guide
3.8 Checking that you have the appropriate access
© Copyright IBM Corp. 1986, 2009
SMP/E must do extra checking / processing. In general, what Peter
and Radoslaw wrote is true.
Using my previous example of Java installation, here is what is documented:
Required authorization:
To restore the files with the proper permission bits, you must have the
following authority:
-
In chapter 7 of the manual, DFSMSdfp Storage Administration, it clearly
states that changes to data class attributes are not retroactively applied
to existing data sets:
"Not all attributes apply to every data set organization. When SMS allocates
a data set, it uses only those data class attrib
Try setting le option:
ENVAR("_EDC_UMASK_DFLT=007")
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com
On Nov 1, 2010 5:51 PM, "Paul Gilmartin" wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 15:24:34 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote:
>>
>>In my software I use bpx1opn and set the mode bits in a constant
>>and it com
At 09:32 -0400 on 11/02/2010, Charles Mills wrote about WTO ABEND D23 help:
There is a field in the WTO MF=L commented as "WPX length." It assembles as
104=x'68' and it's still x'68' in the dump. I don't find "WQEBLK" or "WPL"
in the listing.
I've looked at the MF=E macro expansion and it seems
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:37:51 +0100, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
wrote:
>>
>>- UID(0) or access to BPX.SUPERUSER.FACILITY class
>>- Access to BPX.FILEATTR.APF
>>- Access to BPX.FILEATTR.PROGCTL
>>- Access to BPX.FILEATTR.SHARELIB
>>Note: Access to BPX.FILEATTR.* could be used instead.
>
>Doc error:
>
>
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
> At 09:32 -0400 on 11/02/2010, Charles Mills wrote about WTO ABEND D23 help:
>
> There is a field in the WTO MF=L commented as "WPX length." It assembles
>> as
>> 104=x'68' and it's still x'68' in the dump. I don't find "WQEBLK" or "WPL
>Picky picky. :-)
I know I sometimes am. But when it comes to grammar, i.e.
syntax, there often is no room for fuzziness.
>Submit an RCF to the Java group.
I usually do; at least for documents I work with.
>You would think that IBM doc would at least get this correct.
The z/OS UNIX docs,
>
>- UID(0) or access to BPX.SUPERUSER.FACILITY class
>- Access to BPX.FILEATTR.APF
>- Access to BPX.FILEATTR.PROGCTL
>- Access to BPX.FILEATTR.SHARELIB
>Note: Access to BPX.FILEATTR.* could be used instead.
Doc error:
These are all FACILITY class profiles and the first
one mentioned is simpl
Hello,
Does anyone have any idea where I might find documentation that will
tell me whether it is possible to have multiple sysplexes in a CPC share
the same sysplex name?
Thanks
Steve
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Steve Austin pisze:
Hello,
Does anyone have any idea where I might find documentation that will
tell me whether it is possible to have multiple sysplexes in a CPC share
the same sysplex name?
I don't know the documentation, but I can assure you that it's possible.
I see it everyday: multi
Does anyone have any idea where I might find documentation that will
tell me whether it is possible to have multiple sysplexes in a CPC share
the same sysplex name?
I have no idea where/if this is documented.
That being said, AFAIK, the CEC(CPC) does not know anything about the
SYSPLEX names.
Yep, it's possible, even in parallel sysplex. Key is NOTHING is
shared, nor can it be legally. Don't want to run that way forever, as
it gets confusing.
_
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
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>1.5 minutes to actually switch the dataset seems excessive.
Do you need the data right away?
For a batch-like process, 1.5 minutes, to me, does not seem to be worth
worrying about.
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I'm not sure you are likely to find any documentation on how to define
sysplexes with the same name on the same CPC. I believe most people would
say that the risks out weight the benefits, therefore they would avoid it.
That kind of configuration could be difficult to validate, manage, etc.
Therefo
I probably could have added a little more info...
The rules are the same, for having multiple active sysplex's active in
the same CPC or complex of CPC's whether the name is the same or not.
There is nothing magical from a technical perspective about a sysplex
name as it is just an identifier. B
Dear group,
we have assigned 24GB of physical memory to
our production LPAR. Is it possible to monitor how much
percent of this physical memory is currently used (via Assembler). So,
if paging is active this value should be over 100%.
Any hint appreciated,
with best regards
I give up. Why does a request to process a SYS2 dataset produce an error
message referencing and ES1 dataset?
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>
>>1.5 minutes to actually switch the dataset seems excessive.
>
>Do you need the data right away?
>For a batch-like process, 1.5 minutes, to me, does not seem to be worth
>worrying about.
>
>-
Since you ask:
Our process to offload the SMF data from the MAN files waits until all MAN
files are f
I would also add that the notion of an IRD Cluster is keyed off Parallel
Sysplex name. I'm wondering what would happen if IRD were active.
Martin Packer,
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Twi
Thanks. Yes. Agree with all of your points.
I am using identical (in so far as the macro allows!) parms on both the E
and the L macros (per the example I referenced).
I am not trying to do a "one-shot" multi-line WTO for the reason you
described. What a goofy design! It is perfect for someone wit
If you ever get to 100% you are in deep trouble. The following is from a
previous post to IBM-MAIN
> To find out how the system thinks it is doing, look at SYSEVENT STGTEST in
> the Authorized Assembler Reference manual. That gives you back two values,
> three actually, but now the third is t
At 17:22 + on 11/02/2010, Ted MacNEIL wrote about Re: How long
for SMF to switch:
>1.5 minutes to actually switch the dataset seems excessive.
Do you need the data right away?
For a batch-like process, 1.5 minutes, to me, does not seem to be
worth worrying about.
The delay in doing the
Monika,
How about computing: (Avg Allocated frames + Avg Slots used)/Total memory
You can get Avg Allocated frames and Avg Slot used from PAGESP and
Workload activity report(for the policy). To extract thru a Assembler program
you have to read the SMF/RMF record that contains the info(Type 7X).
>Is it possible to monitor how much percent of this physical memory is
>currently used (via Assembler).
I believe it is possible, if meaningless (explained later), to monitor memory
usage, yourself.
But, rather than resort to homegrown, there are existing options such as
OMEGAMON, or even RMF
>A more important issue is that the. data that will be written to the new
>SYS1.MANx dataset is queued in
memory until the dataset is available.
>This means that you have a
potential window of opportunity for data loss if the delay is extended and you
run out of memory for storing the records o
>Our process to offload the SMF data from the MAN files waits until all MAN
>files are full. >(Yes - I will be fixing that).
I've never worked in an environment that did it that way, so I won't comment.
>So it forces a switch SMF between each step.
>Because the MAN files are small on very activ
If you are running a large CICS shop, and you have CICS TS v3 or higher,
make sure you have compression of the SMF 110 records turned on. That
will greatly reduce the amount of data put to the MAN files. Of course
your post processors will have to be able to decompress the records. I
know that M
>If you are running a large CICS shop, and you have CICS TS v3 or higher, make
>sure you have compression of the SMF 110 records turned on. >That will
>greatly reduce the amount of data put to the MAN files.
Yes, but once the dataset is full it will still take as long to dump.
2G is still 2G,
It appears I had my results backwards in my test.
PMO didn't like LCCA/PCCA above the line.
SCHDMUF didn't like VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO).
There is a fix for PMO. As soon as it is on I will try again.
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On real hardware, the READ_COUNT will give you the address of the record
whose key is being compared by the next CCW. It's a sequence that is
heavily used in searches of non-indexed VTOCs.
Rick
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But be
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I am currently working on rewriting our SMF Dump process.
I was wondering on a quiet system, if I issue an I SMF command, about how long
till the switch? I am seeing about 1.5 mins from command to switch.
Lizette
Rick,
Not the case. I did a I SMF on a sandbox that had absolutely nothing running
on it and the switch took 3 seconds.
Rex
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--- On Tue, 11/2/10, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
From: Ted MacNEIL
Subject: Re: How long for SMF to switch
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Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 3:03 PM
>Our process to offload the SMF data from the MAN files waits until all MAN
>files are full. >(Yes - I will be fixing that).
I'v
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
> --- On Tue, 11/2/10, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
>
> From: Ted MacNEIL
> Subject: Re: How long for SMF to switch
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 3:03 PM
>
>
> class on COBOL but everyone was insulted that I asked.I am a
On 11/2/2010 2:33 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
I am not trying to do a "one-shot" multi-line WTO for the reason you
described. What a goofy design! It is perfect for someone with "n"
hard-coded messages but how likely is that in the real world? I don't even
know what my "n" is ahead of time. I am doi
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