Re: running Assembler I/O macro code as AMODE 31, RMODE ANY

2011-07-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 07/23/2011 at 04:59 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" said: >The description above was part of a hoax Wiki refers to it as a hoax, but I don't see it as any more of a hoax than the famous sign offering access to the egress. In fact, the DHMO site does not match wiki's own definition[1] of hoa

Re: Perl (was: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands)

2011-07-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <20110723171032.521978da@xpfs>, on 07/23/2011 at 05:10 PM, Shane said: >We've probably all thought that looking (in ignorance perhaps) at >perl initially. Not I. Admittedly I thought[1] that Perl was ugly, but I also thought that it was useful. [1] In fact, I still think that it's ugly. B

Re: REENTRANT vs THREADSAFE

2011-07-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4e29ebb7.3000...@ync.net>, on 07/22/2011 at 04:29 PM, Rick Fochtman said: >But you must admit that sometimes they're mildly amusing. In rare >instances, they're downright hilarious. :-) Only if I don't have to clean up after people who listened to them :-( But, yes, when it's not my dog

Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand?

2011-07-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <0316544986728571.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@bama.ua.edu>, on 07/23/2011 at 05:12 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht said: >Just curious if you don't mind, please - How long and difficult was >recovery for that [setting] SUN machine? I don't know, but a fast IPL is still an IPL; it should have

Re: JCL enhancement ideas - your thoughts.

2011-07-23 Thread Mike Schwab
>>> Sent from my iPad http://mashable.com/2009/07/11/iphone-save-lives/ #3 displays emergency treatment / contact info on top of the screen lock.. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all?

Tablets ... (was ...)

2011-07-23 Thread Shane
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:03:48 -0500 John McKown wrote: > I have a Xoom tablet and it also sucks. Which is why I bought a > wireless keyboard for it. And also why I normally use my PC and not > the tablet. It is fun, but not as useful as I had hoped. I refused to even look at tablets until the Tran

Re: JCL enhancement ideas - your thoughts.

2011-07-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>> Sent from my iPad >Sent from my personal mainframe . >WHO CARES? Do you swank? That message footer is the default/uncustomised one on all iPads. >(Dicere est argentum, tacere aurum; peech is silver, silence is golden) ITYM 'speech' - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -

Re: JCL enhancement ideas - your thoughts.

2011-07-23 Thread John McKown
I have a Xoom tablet and it also sucks. Which is why I bought a wireless keyboard for it. And also why I normally use my PC and not the tablet. It is fun, but not as useful as I had hoped. On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 19:40 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: > I plead guilty as the damn IPAD sucks for typing. > > E

Re: JCL enhancement ideas - your thoughts.

2011-07-23 Thread Ed Gould
I plead guilty as the damn IPAD sucks for typing. Ed Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:30 PM, "R.S." wrote: > W dniu 2011-07-23 21:24, Ed Gould pisze: >> Radislow, >> I didn't say it was just that it was available. If you want to read >> something and come up with you own idea that is s

Re: JES2 Commands

2011-07-23 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 11:06 -0700 on 07/22/2011, Skip Robinson wrote about Re: JES2 Commands: OP's motivation is to "find the remaining individual items on the volume so that they can be purged". In my experience, it's nigh impossible to completely drain a spool volume without an IPL. There are fragments of foreve

Re: running Assembler I/O macro code as AMODE 31, RMODE ANY

2011-07-23 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 16:37 -0400 on 07/22/2011, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about Re: running Assembler I/O macro code as AMODE 31, RMODE ANY: >http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html But DHMO is a real compound, and the dangers cited are real. Just (as I posted in a message that crossed with this one) described

Re: JCL enhancement ideas - your thoughts.

2011-07-23 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-07-23 21:24, Ed Gould pisze: Radislow, I didn't say it was just that it was available. If you want to read something and come up with you own idea that is something else. As to reading I do but the fine email system does not necessarily get all the emails, if you don't like it comp

Re: Our technical papers

2011-07-23 Thread Clement Clarke
Where's the Like button in this newsgroup? :-) Thanks Steve. Clem Steve Comstock wrote: A few people have pointed out to me that the papers on our website that I said were 'not printable' are, in fact, printable under certain pdf reader programs: they don't honor the print security. Sigh. So

Re: dynamic STEPLIB

2011-07-23 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:45:13 -0400 "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" wrote: :>In <6165059911694373.wa.markmzelden@bama.ua.edu>, on 07/22/2011 :> at 11:12 AM, Mark Zelden said: :>>Yes, LIBDEF doesn't work for LINK, XCTL, LOAD, & ATTACH. :>What's left? SELECT PGM, for one. -- Binyamin Dissen

Re: JCL enhancement ideas - your thoughts.

2011-07-23 Thread Ed Gould
Radislow, I didn't say it was just that it was available. If you want to read something and come up with you own idea that is something else. As to reading I do but the fine email system does not necessarily get all the emails, if you don't like it complain to the Internet. Ed Sent from my iPa

Our technical papers

2011-07-23 Thread Steve Comstock
A few people have pointed out to me that the papers on our website that I said were 'not printable' are, in fact, printable under certain pdf reader programs: they don't honor the print security. Sigh. So, what I have done is gone and made all the papers on our main technical papers page officia

Re: JCL enhancement ideas - your thoughts.

2011-07-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>But since GDG-ALL processing effectively creates a concatenated set of DDs, >what about the limit of 255 DDs per jobstep? How to do GDG-ALL of a DSN with >1000 entries? Unless things have changed the maximum number of (catalogued) GDG entries is (also) 255. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twi

Re: JCL enhancement ideas - your thoughts.

2011-07-23 Thread R.S.
XTIOT is not required, TIOT is enough to have 3000+ DDs. It was already answered and explained. (Read The Fine Answers?) BTW: TIOT-XTIOT is not a choice for people who run programs. I did not write IEBEGER, IDCAMS and thousands COBOL programs present in my shop. As far as I know, COBOL develope

Re: JCL enhancement ideas - your thoughts.

2011-07-23 Thread Ed Gould
John, I believe that you can have more than 255 dd statement by using XTIOT, the reverse order was IMO because of CVOL design issues. The order is reasonably important ( to me anyway) is that I have. Had to do a sort the file, programmers were not happy ( but understood) about the additional ste

Re: JCL enhancement ideas - your thoughts.

2011-07-23 Thread John McKown
I shouldn't reply to messages while playing "Angry Birds". You're right. I was thinking of steps per job. Or something like that. And even "steps per job" is not exactly 255 any more, thanks to UNIX fork()ing and "substeps". Although the fork()ed process does run in a separate address space, usuall

Re: JCL enhancement ideas - your thoughts.

2011-07-23 Thread R.S.
John, There is no such limit! Limit of DDs per jobstep is much higher, it's over 3200 datasets (single volume ones). So, you can concatenate much more datasets (single volume) than 255. Many moons ago, in the dark ages of OS/390 (or MVS?) there was a limit for concatenation, it was 123 for PS d

Re: Who?

2011-07-23 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-07-22 20:21, David Andrews pisze: So I'm riffling the SHARE Orlando agenda and I find *this* guy: "Dave Andrews is the IBM Development Director of the CICS product family based in Hursley, UK." My reputation can only improve. (keeping Friday mode on) Once upon a t

Re: C compiler issue

2011-07-23 Thread Don Poitras
You can expand the headers in the listing by adding the SHOW compiler option. In article <3910630036250514.wa.henrique.seganfredobcb.gov...@bama.ua.edu> you wrote: > Hello, > I?ve been trying to compile a C CICS program that uses sockets. > After the translation with DFHEDP1$ (ends with RC=00)

Re: dynamic STEPLIB

2011-07-23 Thread Peter Relson
>But does the IBM documentation explicitly say that the parent >TCB cannot do this? "That which is not specifically forbidden, >is allowed." Wrong. 100%. That which is not specifically allowed is not supported and you do at your own (system's) risk.. >DCB parameter Mention is made of the ATT

Re: Perl (was: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands)

2011-07-23 Thread John McKown
Heretic! I love Perl. But REXX is very good too. But I would like ooREXX on z/OS. And I want Perl regular expressions put into legacy z/OS facilities, including REXX. I'd love the PDF editor to be able to do Perl, or even POSIX, regular expression finds and changes! It already has the p'...' for

Re: JCL enhancement ideas - your thoughts.

2011-07-23 Thread John McKown
I agree entirely. I understand the 255 limit in the past when all we had were CVOL catalogs and a 1 byte field. ICF catalogs don't work that way. And, again, the reverse order made sense in the days of CVOL due to the way that GDGs were actually implemented in CVOLs. Again, ICF catalogs don't work

Re: C compiler issue

2011-07-23 Thread Lizette Koehler
> I´ve been trying to compile a C CICS program that uses sockets. > > After the translation with DFHEDP1$ (ends with RC=00) the program is compiled with > CCNDRVR. > > For my surprise, the compiler starts complaining the folllowing: > > ..(CICS definitions put by the translator)... >56

Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand?

2011-07-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John McKown wrote: >The open people are amazed (and some refuse to believe) that I can literally >lose a CPU on the z with ZERO impact on operations. Tell them about (via parmlib or command) this: CONFIG CPU(x), (and CHP, etc) :-D And pleaze report back with their reactions for grins... :

Re: Perl (was: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands)

2011-07-23 Thread Shane
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:27:13 -0500 "Justin R. Bendich"wrote: > No matter what the version, perl is an abomination We've probably all thought that looking (in ignorance perhaps) at perl initially. Once having learnt it to some extent, it is astoundingly efficient and flexible. When was the last ti