Re: Pipeline question - whick is better?

2011-08-17 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir, IMHO .. very ... each introduced enhancements to make things better ... but that said, certain instructions or perhaps I should say facility, are available on the z9 or even z8/900s but their performance would be poor. The displacement facility (long, immediate, negative ) is a good e

Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:37:05 -0500, John McKown wrote: >Abandon TSO for multiple UNIX shells, except for TSO required stuff such as >HCD. EDIT on Linux desktop using z/OS UNIX files exported via NFS. Or maybe >ftpfs or sshfs on Linux. Hum, will need to try that myself tomorrow. > I do that regula

Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 03:11:13 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >I thought there was a minimum of 18 bytes for LRECL. >At least, there was in 1981, when I learned JCL. > That was for tape, not DASD. And it applied to BLKSIZE, not LRECL. I just allocated: Device type . . . . : 3390 Data class . . .

new subj windows on Mainframes

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Gould
Scott: I do not know but it sounds right. Just like I think he said no one is going to use more than 640K. Many people (including a recent IBM person has made claims on PC's ) in the last 2-3 weeks that are probably wrong. IBM got out of the PC business when it sold off Laveano(sp?). So they ar

Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-17 Thread Gainsford, Allen
> Didn't Bill Gates once say "We are not going to make the same mistakes > those folks in the mainframe world did"? According to Bob Bemer, it was Ted Nelson who said it. http://www.bobbemer.com/INSIDE-A.HTM -- For IBM-MAIN subsc

Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-17 Thread Scott Vetter
Didn't Bill Gates once say "We are not going to make the same mistakes those folks in the mainframe world did"? - Original Message From: Ed Gould To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wed, August 17, 2011 7:10:57 PM Subject: Re: Security is fun in the PC world Rick, I agree completely

Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I thought there was a minimum of 18 bytes for LRECL. At least, there was in 1981, when I learned JCL. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Paul Gilmartin Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:43:19 To: Reply-To

Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Gould
Gil, IBM if the product is supported IBM should at least fix it. If it's not then... I have only worked with IBM supported products and they fixed issues with SDB without a squawk. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / arc

Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Gould
I hope I will be dead and buried then as well. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.ed

Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Gould
Well except that they wouldn't allow us to install any software on the pc's. Sigh. At the time we didn't have TCP either, We had channel attached devices (if I recall correctly). Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archiv

Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Gould
Good point. I can't speak for other shops but I was conscious and did all items you listed plus any JES2 PTF's went on ASAP. I only got bitten once with a JES2 PTF that screwed up the /@XMIT (@ SB asterix) which almost caused the market not to open onetime. Ed --

Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Gould
Ted, Thanks my grey hair is rotting the memory cells:( Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://ba

Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-17 Thread Clark Morris
On 17 Aug 2011 16:16:33 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: > Rick, > >I agree completely. The pcweenies just do not get it. This person had a user-id and password with privileges. Think of the harm someone with a system programmers id and privileges can do. For those of you who have bee

Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Around 27K for 3390, around 24K for 3380, Ed. Don't know the exact numbers >right off the top of my head. It depends on the LRECL. 'Full track' is: 47476 for 3380 56664 for 3390 The inter-blocks also contribute. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL

Re: Pipeline question - whick is better?

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Finnell
Just out of curiosity, how architecture dependent would it be; z/9 vs Z10 or z11? In a message dated 8/17/2011 6:24:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, edja...@phoenixsoftware.com writes: The key is also not known in advance for MVCSK source operand fetch, but at least instruction fetch is n

Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-17 Thread John McKown
Abandon TSO for multiple UNIX shells, except for TSO required stuff such as HCD. EDIT on Linux desktop using z/OS UNIX files exported via NFS. Or maybe ftpfs or sshfs on Linux. Hum, will need to try that myself tomorrow. On Aug 17, 2011 7:50 PM, "Paul Gilmartin" wrote: > On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:31:

Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:10:57 -0700, Ed Gould wrote: > >I agree completely. The pcweenies just do not get it. > It'll really be fun when Windows runs on blades in the z. Mandated, of course by CIOs taking airline magazine advice. -- gil

Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:31:18 -0700, Ed Gould wrote: > This reminds me the about the the day that they ripped the 3270's out from > underneath us and all of a sudden I couldn't switch from session to session > using TPX. (I don't remember specifics). My productivity went to zero. Get a workstati

Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:17:40 -0700, Ed Gould wrote: A 32K blocksize is not optimal for 3390 . IIRC it would be 1 block per track (track size being 48K) Half track blocking or 24K is probably the best, IMO. My memory is drawing a blank for 3380 (but 36K maybe right) so 18K. Best to use blksize=0

Re: Pipeline question - whick is better?

2011-08-17 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir, My apologies but ... it does not have to be in KZERO and it still won't fail. That said, you and very correct. As I said before, there will be overhead. Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Larry Chenevert
The last time I used a card reader was in 1978. A 2540 reader/punch on a 3148.Students used 029's and 026's. The data entry staff used 129's. I say "used a card reader" -- but we had operators who operated the card reader during regular hours -- 8AM until about 8PM. After hours it was s

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
ps2...@yahoo.com (Ed Gould) writes: > Wasn't there a card reader as a requirement for 3090 and before > so the CE could install the OLTEP program and a rudimentary IOCDS to > run his diagnostics? 3092 (3090 service processor) was a pair of 4361s running a special custom vm370 release 6 off of 3

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Gould
I have a similar tale. A so called systems programmer screwed up an update to IEAAPF00 and we lost VTAM at start up. I had to run IKJEFT01 in TSO line mode edit to put in a comma that he forgot. The operators thought I was crazy, but it worked quickly. the guy was fired the next morning. Ed

Re: Pipeline question - whick is better?

2011-08-17 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 8/17/2011 1:47 PM, Binyamin Dissen wrote: (2) has more storage references, while (1) has more opcodes. Some time ago we rewrote some code that did SPKA/MVC/SPKA to use MVCSK for integrity reasons. That code was accessing caller's parameters. We reasoned it was safer to use the caller's key

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Gould
Wasn't there a card reader as a requirement for 3090 and before so the CE could install the OLTEP program and a rudimentary IOCDS to run his diagnostics? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, sen

Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Gould
Rick, I agree completely. The pcweenies just do not get it. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at htt

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 8/17/2011 4:36 PM, Robert Heffner wrote: I was going to add that there is a small company in Texas that not only still uses cards, but uses a 402 to process them. Talk about one for Ripley's. My all-time favorite is a small establishment on Times Square in New York City. A customer would p

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Mike Liberatore
Your correct the 402 and 407 boards were similar. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike Myers Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:42:03 To: Reply-to: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Last card reader? Rick: No, i

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Gould
Rick, My vague memory was a 407 read cards and you had a board you could place wires what you wanted to o print add subtract and take the results and print it out on the printer(132? Positions?). The wires were collided. So you could manipulate the data if needed and move it to the print buffe

Re: Pipeline question - whick is better?

2011-08-17 Thread Bob Rutledge
Jim Thomas wrote: Sir, While I agree w/your prognosis .. I'm a little confused on your comment about option 2 ... I must be missing something but I don't really see a problem (non performance related that is). I concur that MVCSK would take page faults but it should complete the load

Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-17 Thread Scott Rowe
27998 and 23476 IIRC, but I believe the OP was talking about copying tapes. On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: > --**** > > > Hal: >> >> A 32K blocksize is not optimal for 3390 . IIRC it would be 1 block per >> track (tr

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Mike Myers
Rick: No, it was definitely a 402. The 407 was around at the time, but I never got trained on it. If I recall correctly, the boards looked a lot the same. Mike Myers On 08/17/2011 06:27 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: - Wow, a 402!! W

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Tom Harper
Rick, Couldn't you also get printout from the console typewriter? Tom - Original Message - From: Rick Fochtman [mailto:rfocht...@ync.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 06:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Last card reader?

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Rick Fochtman
- Wow, a 402!! Who'd have guessed there was still one running outside a museum? I learned "programming" when I was taught to wire the board that controlled one of those. I also used to maintain them as a Field Engineer, but that

Re: Pipeline question - whick is better?

2011-08-17 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir, While I agree w/your prognosis .. I'm a little confused on your comment about option 2 ... I must be missing something but I don't really see a problem (non performance related that is). I concur that MVCSK would take page faults but it should complete the load for 'data' ... is jus

Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-17 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- Hal: A 32K blocksize is not optimal for 3390 . IIRC it would be 1 block per track (track size being 48K) Half track blocking or 24K is probably the best, IMO. My memory is drawing a blank for 3380 (but 36K maybe right) so 18K. Best to

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www.ibm-1401.info/402.html On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Mike Myers wrote: > Wow, a 402!! Who'd have guessed there was still one running outside a > museum? > > I learned "programming" when I was taught to wire the board that controlled > one of those. I also used to maintain them as a

Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-17 Thread Rick Fochtman
Ed Gould wrote: http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/194445/fired-techie-created-virtual-chaos-pharma-company?source=ITWNLE_nlt_today_2011-08-17< (watch out for the wrap) Fired techie created virtual chaos at pharma company -

Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-17 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Knowing John's background, I would suspect he may have intended to state "For RECFM=U, 32760 MAY indeed BE optimum", or perhaps intended to restrict the remark just to load libraries. I believe all the arguments in the archives for using block size 32760 with RECFM=U on 3390 were specifically

Re: Pipeline question - whick is better?

2011-08-17 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir, A direct answer would be ... options 1. Reasons : since I see SPKA and MVCSK, you must be in problem state. It also depends on how 'data' is aligned and if in storage (I refer to verify that 'data' is not paged out or access does not take any page faults) .

Re: Pipeline question - whick is better?

2011-08-17 Thread Bob Rutledge
Binyamin Dissen wrote: R2-R13 must be preserved. R13 points to a standard save area. 1. LRR0,R2 IPK , SPKA spec_key L R15,data SPKA 0(R2) LRR2,R0 2. LAR0,4-1 LAR1,spec_key

Re: Anyone know how to HSM report of recalled datasets

2011-08-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
The RMM report process was more or less rebranded by IBM to be part of DFSMS Base and used to handle more objects like HSM or DCOLLECT information. No need to license RMM. There were Share Presentations on it last week. IBM has now broadened its scope to include more DFSMS components as well

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Cris Hernandez #9
"Like" these kind of stories... I basically had a fit when I first heard we were losing our card readers since I had no other way to run my batch print jobs. No one bothered to teach my how to use FQ ahead of time. The year was 1980. We kept the key punch operators for a few more years after

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Mike Myers
Wow, a 402!! Who'd have guessed there was still one running outside a museum? I learned "programming" when I was taught to wire the board that controlled one of those. I also used to maintain them as a Field Engineer, but that was in 1964. I last worked on one in 1966 before I left for syste

Pipeline question - whick is better?

2011-08-17 Thread Binyamin Dissen
R2-R13 must be preserved. R13 points to a standard save area. 1. LRR0,R2 IPK , SPKA spec_key L R15,data SPKA 0(R2) LRR2,R0 2. LAR0,4-1 LAR1,spec_key MVCSK 28(R13),d

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Robert Heffner
I was going to add that there is a small company in Texas that not only still uses cards, but uses a 402 to process them. Talk about one for Ripley's. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Robert Heffner
My previous employer used cards until about 1995. The factory payroll clock cards and time tickets were 80 column cards, and they used the end printing function of a 519 reproducer to print the employee number on the end of the clock cards. Just before the 3505 was removed, I received a call o

Re: Anyone know how to HSM report of recalled datasets

2011-08-17 Thread Greg Shirey
Hmm, I'm confused. On both my 1.11 and 1.12 systems, ISMF has an option G called "Report Generation." If you select it, the "DFSMSrmm Report Generator" panel (EDGPG000) is displayed. The command is "CMD(%RMMISPF REPORT) NEWAPPL(EDG) PASSLIB." On my systems, the RMMISPF REXX is found in libr

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Finnell
We took a big lightening hit back in the sixties and the machine room was OK but lots of the peripheral equipment was fried. Naturally when we went to IPL, the operator dropped the deck! 'Necessity IS the mother of invention' In a message dated 8/17/2011 2:38:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Tony's Comcast account
I'll have to find my sort needle from the basement archive. It was originally used for the 80 column 5081s but did work for the 96s. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:03 PM T

Re: Anyone know how to HSM report of recalled datasets

2011-08-17 Thread Darth Keller
>> As of z/OS V1.11 (my version) >> the old DFSMSrmm Report Writer (Option G in ISMF) is now retitled DFSMS Report Writer. >> It is part of DFSMS now. It handles DCOLLECT, HSM, and anything else where you know the record layout. >> Lizette Interesting - I was thinking of something else entirely

Re: Anyone know how to HSM report of recalled datasets

2011-08-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
As of z/OS V1.11 (my version) the old DFSMSrmm Report Writer (Option G in ISMF) is now retitled DFSMS Report Writer. It is part of DFSMS now. It handles DCOLLECT, HSM, and anything else where you know the record layout. Lizette -Original Message- >From: Darth Keller >Sent: Aug 17,

Re: Anyone know how to HSM report of recalled datasets

2011-08-17 Thread Darth Keller
>> You can use the SMS Report writer to create a report for you. You will find the dialogs from the ISMF panel. Is this actually part of SMS or a 3rd party product? I'm thinking 3rd party. ddk This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/o

Re: GDG recall ENQ IEF861I IEF863I IEF099I

2011-08-17 Thread Jim Erdahl
I believe that IBM has correct this issue with z/OS 1.13. Check the anoucement letters to verify. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MA

Re: Anyone know how to HSM report of recalled datasets

2011-08-17 Thread Jim Erdahl
You can use the SMS Report writer to create a report for you. You will find the dialogs from the ISMF panel. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message:

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Finnell
Well if you don't count a straightened paper clip! In a message dated 8/17/2011 1:50:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, wdonze...@gmail.com writes: The 96 column card sorter is beyond rare. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread William Donzelli
> I woulkdn't mind finding a 96-column keypunch. Gotta be a real rarity.  :-) Yes, very rare. I only know of a handful of them. The 96 column card sorter is beyond rare. -- Will -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive acce

Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:54:46 -0400, John Eells wrote: >... Anything that writes a combination of long and >short blocks can yield surprising results. (We found that z/OS fonts, >for example, use the least space at a counterintuitive block size.) > >For plain old sequential FB data, though, it's

Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-17 Thread John Eells
That really depends on the RECFM and, for variable blocked RECFMs, the distribution of block sizes. For RECFM=U, 32760 is indeed optimum (search the archives for why), and for some (not necessarily common) distributions of variable blocks it might well use space better than half track blocking

Re: LPAR with Dedicated CPs - LP Dispatch Time does not equal LP Online Time

2011-08-17 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Rick, I don't have TDS. That said, would you say that this lpar is nearly 100% busy? Unless they mean something else by online seconds, utilization is typically dispatched divided by online. Your numbers being so close would indicate a high utilization to me. My online time in RMF reports is al

Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-17 Thread Neubert, Kevin
Take a look at Chapter 14 (An Introduction to the Hierarchical File System) in the UNIX System Services User's Guide (SA22-7801). It's a fairly concise place to start. Regards, Kevin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dan

LPAR with Dedicated CPs - LP Dispatch Time does not equal LP Online Time

2011-08-17 Thread Rick Mansfeldt
I'm looking at Tivoli Decision Support data for an LPAR defined with 8 dedicated CPs. Specifically, I'm using data from the MVSPM_LPAR_H table and comparing columns: LP_ONLINE_SEC (Total logical processor online seconds for this LPAR) and CPU_DISPATCH_SEC (Logical processor dispatch time,

Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-17 Thread Bill Fairchild
3390 full track size is ca. 56K, and 3380 is ca. 47K. But you were right - 32K is still not optimal for 3390. Bill Fairchild -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN

Re: CICS V2.3 and DB2 for z/OS V10.1

2011-08-17 Thread Mullen, Patrick
According to the DB2 10 Announcement Letter, 210-380, connections to CICS Transaction Server for z/OS V3.1 or later are supported. Earlier versions of CICS may "work", but such configs will be unsupported. So as Daniel points out, you will need to be very thorough in your testing environment before

Re: TCPIP Resolver Question

2011-08-17 Thread Bill Fairchild
Which is why I suggested a couple of weeks ago that a certain new thread be killed as soon as I saw the first reference in it to the evil three-letter acronym which shall not be named. A responsible, adult discussion over the different opinions of the meaning of said acronym would be mirabile d

Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-17 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011, Daniel McLaughlin wrote: > We are a small shop and use mostly traditional ZOS things. It appears > that the world is stampeding toward USS based software delivery and > installation/maintenance. We are not USS/UNIX trained or savvy. We are > looking for some "UNIX for Mainf

Re: CICS V2.3 and DB2 for z/OS V10.1

2011-08-17 Thread Daniel Allen
Yes. It will. Test it out in a sandbox environment. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miran Cotic Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CICS V2.3 and DB2 for z/OS V10.1 Hello List, does a

Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Gould
Mark: This reminds me the about the the day that they ripped the 3270's out from underneath us and all of a sudden I couldn't switch from session to session using TPX. (I don't remember specifics). My productivity went to zero. After an hour of cussing I went out to find a real 3270 and found on

Re: UNIX (Unix System Services)

2011-08-17 Thread Scott Ford
Just to add to this thread, I am not a Unix heavy by any stretch , but I worked VM for years and use Linux at home, so I feel this helps with an understand of USS on z/OS. Classes, I cant remember when I had the last one. I dig through google and manuals and experiment on our development boxes, o

Re: TCPIP Resolver Question

2011-08-17 Thread Scott Ford
wow Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com   From: Ted MacNEIL To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:14 AM Subject: Re: TCPIP Resolver Question Mason! Who made you the USS Nazi? - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Mes

CICS V2.3 and DB2 for z/OS V10.1

2011-08-17 Thread Miran Cotic
Hello List, does anybody know if the CICS V2.3 works with the DB2 for z/OS V10.1 ? Thanks in advance for replay ! Regards, Miran Cotic -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bam

Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-17 Thread Kirk Wolf
Don, I agree - for those forced to run Windows, running Linux VMs under Windows is a good option for education. cygwin is also invaluable. We use Linux desktops (currently Ubuntu 10.04), and have found also that only a few things require Windoze. VirtualBox is also a good VM host on Linux for W

Re: ABEND - 637-04

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Gould
Hal: A 32K blocksize is not optimal for 3390 . IIRC it would be 1 block per track (track size being 48K) Half track blocking or 24K is probably the best, IMO. My memory is drawing a blank for 3380 (but 36K maybe right) so 18K. Best to use blksize=0 unless the damn program over rides the blocksi

Options (was: UNIX (USS))

2011-08-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 15:45:25 +, Grinsell, Don wrote: >I got around that by convincing said powers that VMWare Workstation was >necessary to my health and well being and now I'm happily Linuxing away. When >I need to convince somebody that the problem is NOT due to my Linux >environment, I'

Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-17 Thread Staller, Allan
Security is fun in the PC world Non-sequitor. There is *NO SECURITY* in the PC world (IMO) http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/194445/fired-techie-created -virtual-chaos-pharma-company?source=ITWNLE_nlt_today_2011-08-17 -

Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-17 Thread Grinsell, Don
I got around that by convincing said powers that VMWare Workstation was necessary to my health and well being and now I'm happily Linuxing away. When I need to convince somebody that the problem is NOT due to my Linux environment, I've got the standard Windows desktop to prove it. Regards, Do

Re: DFhsm HRECOVER Dataset from FLASHCOPY Volumes

2011-08-17 Thread George Rodriguez
When I issued the HLIST command, this is what I got: ARC0138I NO MCDS INFORMATION FOUND FOR DATASET TX#P.F.TEXT.INV DSN=TX#P.F.TEXT.INV BACK FREQ = *** MAX VERS=*** BDSN=DFHSM.BACK.T282203.TX#P.F.A BACKVOL=V22915 FRVOL=PPRD24 BACKDATE=11/04/21

Security is fun in the PC world....

2011-08-17 Thread Ed Gould
>http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/194445/fired-techie-created-virtual-chaos-pharma-company?source=ITWNLE_nlt_today_2011-08-17< (watch out for the wrap) Fired techie created virtual chaos at pharma company -- For IBM-MA

Re: DFhsm HRECOVER Dataset from FLASHCOPY Volumes

2011-08-17 Thread George Rodriguez
Here's what I have specified: DEFINE /* Define a dump class named DAILYDR */ - DUMPCLASS(DAILYDR /* that is dumped everyday for */ - FREQ(1) /* production data. It is held for 7 */ - RETPD(8) /* days and the tape is re

Re: DFhsm HRECOVER Dataset from FLASHCOPY Volumes

2011-08-17 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
You might also issue a HLIST DSN('TX#P.F.TEXT.INV') BOTH To see what HSM has for backups and where they are located. David O'Brien NIH Contractor -Original Message- From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DFhs

Re: TCPIP Resolver Question

2011-08-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Mason! Who made you the USS Nazi? - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: James Link Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 08:08:24 To: Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: TCPIP Resolver Question G

Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-17 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
>It won't be an immediate help but I've been recommending that Systems >Programmers ditch their Windows workstations and utilize Linux, or other >like Un*x OS's (I use FreeBSD) for their day to day work If I only had the choice, but in bigger companys other powers decide ;-( Back to the OPs

Re: Not able to login to TSO

2011-08-17 Thread Chris Mason
All having followed this thread[1] Thankfully, rather than being "killed", the thread made its way to IBMTCP-L where many of the denizens concentrated their effort in directing Saurabh to put his world to rights. I'm sure you will all be utterly delighted that the problem was solved - although

Re: TCPIP Resolver Question

2011-08-17 Thread James Link
Groan Jim Link | ITM II | Technical Operations State of Nevada | Department of Information Technology T: (775) 684-4308 | F: (775) 684-4324 | E: jl...@doit.nv.gov   -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent:

Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-17 Thread McKown, John
I agree. I have a Linux desktop at work, in addition to the normal Windows desktop. At home, I have a Mac Mini, two desktops, a laptop and and netbook. All but the Mac run Linux. The laptop can dual boot to Windows7, but I never use Windows on it. The only negative to a Linux desktop is you unde

Re: DFhsm HRECOVER Dataset from FLASHCOPY Volumes

2011-08-17 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
George, Do you have DATASETRESTORE or NODATASETRESTORE specified in your Define Dumpclass? David O'Brien NIH Contractor -Original Message- From: George Rodriguez [mailto:george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: D

Re: TCPIP Resolver Question

2011-08-17 Thread Chris Mason
Anson I promised a second post with reference to this post. As it happens, another thread appeared and I was requested to provide the explanation which roughly corresponds to the point I was going to make to you: http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1108&L=ibm-main&D=1&O=D&P=342775 It was clear

Re: Dynamic ISPF ads in industry magazines

2011-08-17 Thread Chris Mason
Shane It occurred to me that VTAM - including both parts of today's z/OS Communications Server - development, past and present, should all be able to purchase motor yachts and take retirement or early retirement to the Caribbean as a minimum on the strength of the "prior usage" violations up wi

DFhsm HRECOVER Dataset from FLASHCOPY Volumes

2011-08-17 Thread George Rodriguez
There are daily jobs that run that flash copies PPRD00-PPRD88 to XPRD00-XPRD88. I then use DFSMShsm SEND command to BACKVOL VOL(XPRDnn) DUMP(DUMPCLASS(DAILYDR)). The output dataset is on VTL with the name DFHSM.DMP.DAILYDR.VXPRDnn.D11223.T311301. What I'm trying (unsuccessfully) to do is HRECOVER 2

Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-17 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 08/17/11 09:18, Daniel McLaughlin wrote: We are a small shop and use mostly traditional ZOS things. It appears that the world is stampeding toward USS based software delivery and installation/maintenance. We are not USS/UNIX trained or savvy. We are looking for some "UNIX for Mainframe Dummi

Re: UNIX (Unix System Services)

2011-08-17 Thread Steve Comstock
On 8/17/2011 7:18 AM, Daniel McLaughlin wrote: We are a small shop and use mostly traditional ZOS things. It appears that the world is stampeding toward z/OS UNIX based software delivery and installation/maintenance. We are not z/OS UNIX trained or savvy. We are looking for some "UNIX for Mainfra

Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
I should have included the correct title of the book ABCsof z/OS System Programming Vol 9 SG24-6989-05 Lizette -Original Message- >From: Lizette Koehler >Sent: Aug 17, 2011 10:01 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >Subject: Re: UNIX (USS) > >Daniel, > >Try Redbook ABCs of System Programming

Re: UNIX (USS)

2011-08-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
Daniel, Try Redbook ABCs of System Programming Vol 9 We are using it this week for Training on UNIX on Mainframe. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu wit

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
steve.do...@ccbcc.com (Steve Dover) writes: > Phil, we had one at Allstate Insurance until 1990. 2540 reader/punch. > I sure miss the chads, they were great fun in desks and cars. But I > do not miss hauling the 50 pound boxes around. as undergraduate in the 60s ... univ. was using sense-marked

UNIX (USS)

2011-08-17 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
We are a small shop and use mostly traditional ZOS things. It appears that the world is stampeding toward USS based software delivery and installation/maintenance. We are not USS/UNIX trained or savvy. We are looking for some "UNIX for Mainframe Dummies" material or classes. Suggestions kindly

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Steve Dover
Phil, we had one at Allstate Insurance until 1990. 2540 reader/punch. I sure miss the chads, they were great fun in desks and cars. But I do not miss hauling the 50 pound boxes around. On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:08:04 -0700, Phil Smith wrote: >Wondering when the last card reader died. We had

Re: Tivoli System Automation V3R3 manuals

2011-08-17 Thread Barkow, Eileen
I did not even know that SA 3.3 was out - We are still upgrading some of our lpars to 3.2. Good luck with it, Bob. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 6:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@b

Re: SMS compactionEXCP's, Fixed Blocked and fixed

2011-08-17 Thread MONTERO ROMERO, ENRIQUE ELOI
Thanks Yifat, I found it in the job execution log : compressed ICE084I 0 BSAM ACCESS METHOD USED FOR SYSUT2 ICE084I 0 EXCP ACCESS METHOD USED FOR SYSUT1 non compressed ICE084I 0 EXCP ACCESS METHOD USED FOR SYSUT2 ICE084I 0 EXCP ACCESS METHOD USED FOR SYSUT1 Thanks, Enrique ---

Re: Last card reader?

2011-08-17 Thread Andrew Armstrong
FWIW the last IBM 3505 I saw was in 1984. I remember one time the CE was called in to fix it (kept data checking or some such). Apparently, 3505's had optical sensors to detect the holes, and this particular unit was occasionally spitting machine oil onto the cards. As the machine oil soaked in

Re: EXVTOC error

2011-08-17 Thread Mike Schwab
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was trying to extend the VTOC size for volume but i was getting an error <> >>   REFORMAT UNIT(D71F) VERIFY(TCOM02) - >> EXTVTOC(11,1,1500) >> ICK30200I TOO MANY POSITIONAL PARAMETERS AFTER '11' >> ICK30202I ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED

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