Re: Set Clock Command

At 15:49 -0500 on 11/21/2011, Blaicher, Christopher Y. wrote about Re: Set Clock Command: It depends on your applications and how they are written. If they use the TIME macro, or the various language equivalents, you may have a problem at switch times. See the ZONE parameter of the TIME mac

Re: DFSORT - How to split detailed record based on master record

Yaeger-san and McKown-san, Thank you very much for your kind help. It is exactly what I want to do. By the way, one of our customer is still using z/OS V1.10. Does DFSORT for z/OS V1R10 support JOINKEYS application? If it doesn't, are there any way to do same thing as JOINKEYS does on z/OS V1.10

Re: I thought it would be easy (IEBDG)

David: Speaking of Sort... 20+ years ago I created a data tape for testing sort out. It was essentially an 80 byte record with 20 4 byte sort "keys". I created a million records using IEBDG and it really put any sort I threw at it to a heavy duty test. All fields were binary and random. Onc

Re: What is a mainframe Part I

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Re: Set Clock Command

In <9512715166290504.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu>, on 01/23/2012 at 03:07 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: >(It's not Shmuel's dog.?) Keep that in mind. >Is the hardware used by STP well enough documented in the PoOp >(PrOp?) that one could write RYO (E)TOD steering code, driven by >NTP? Yes

Re: PDSE

In <0474239580859420.wa.arthur.gutowskicompuware@bama.ua.edu>, on 01/23/2012 at 04:14 PM, Art Gutowski said: >So, NO, as of z/OS 1.12, ALIAS entries are not allowed. ITYM are not allowed at IPL time. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Set Clock Command

In <1327354064.32007.66.camel@localhost>, on 01/23/2012 at 04:27 PM, David Andrews said: >I thought that STP was LIC, and contained some enabling bits? I believe that the Clock Steering facility used by STP is chargable. See the PERFORM TIMING FACILITY FUNCTION (PTFF) instruction in SA22-7832

Re: question about report writer usage

Hi Mark - I'm asking Darren for permission to provide a more detailed explanation of the question behind the question. Thanks, Sam On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:48:58 -0800, Sam Siegel wrote: > >>Hi - The following questions was approved by Darren

Re: SADUMP on ATL

W dniu 2012-01-23 20:58, Brendan seuter pisze: Is there a capability of using an STK ATL(Silo) for the SADUMP tape repository procedure in lieu of Stand Alone drives?. I think you can issue a command to mount a cartridge to a given drive, i.e. from another HSC host. However I would never tr

Re: PDSE

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 07:54:52 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:25:34 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >>Can LINKLIST contain aliases? > >IIRC (but I may not remember correctly) SETPROG ADD can specify an >alias. However, > >From MVS Init & Tuning, on SETPROG LNKLST: DSNAME(dsnam

Re: Set Clock Command

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:25:18 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: >(Have I ever mentioned how I hate switching from bottom posting to top >posting in the same thread. :-) ) > I think so. But I don't let it bother me. I use "comments in line" style. Top, bottom, who cares? If the quoted material is m

Re: Set Clock Command

(Have I ever mentioned how I hate switching from bottom posting to top posting in the same thread. :-) ) I'm sure it would work just dandy, although I've never tried it. But what would you, a z/OS sysprog rather do: Change the image profile on the HMC twice a year, or change a parmlib membe

Re: Set Clock Command

On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 16:07 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > And the TOD just drifts? Yeppers. It's not remotely as bad as it was in (say) the pre-CMOS days. The clock doesn't move far enough from wall clock to be very noticeable. > How does this affect critical timestamps > kept in GMT? What do

Re: Set Clock Command

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:54:24 -0800, Skip Robinson wrote: >I have NO experience with this, but in the Image profile there in an >option to use 'Logical partition time offset' in lieu of 'Standard time of >day'. Would that help in managing multiple time zones? > Depends on how practical it is to se

Re: SADUMP on ATL

Since Skip answered a different question, I'll try and answer yours: :-) (assuming you are talking about "STK" and not an IBM library) If you have a sharing host (MVS) you can issue the mount command of a scratch tape from another host. Make sure it is a scratch tape because SAD will happ

Re: Set Clock Command

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:36:44 -0500, David Andrews wrote: > >> Is the reason for using manual processes strictly financial? > >It's certainly money here. During weekly sysmaint the system is >quiesced and we run a program by Axel Miller that interrogates a NTP >server and issues appropriate SET CLO

Re: Set Clock Command

I have NO experience with this, but in the Image profile there in an option to use 'Logical partition time offset' in lieu of 'Standard time of day'. Would that help in managing multiple time zones? . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE

Re: SADUMP on ATL

Let me answer a different question. Q. What is the best way to take SAD? A. Overwhelmingly 'best' is to take SAD to DASD. No contest. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile j

Re: Ikjeft01

All, Thanks to all, there is one thing that forced us as a vendor to use external resources outside our STC it is the 4096 line limitation to IRRSEQ00. I hope IBM will resolve this. We have one customer with 350,000 RACF userids, if u do a SEARCH CLASS(USER) a failure will occur. Hopefully, I

Re: Set Clock Command

On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 12:14 -0500, Skip Robinson wrote: > I'm curious. We have not done 'SET CLOCK' for 15 years since we acquired > sysplex timers and now have STP. Time changes are automatic/programmed. Is > the reason for using manual processes strictly financial? It's certainly money here.

Re: Going from mod-3 to mod9

On 01/23/2012 01:21 PM, Bill Fairchild wrote: In<45e5f2f45d7878458ee5ca679697335502e25...@usdaexch01.kbm1.loc>, on 01/23/2012 at 09:08 AM, "Staller, Allan" said: From the viewpoint of the Operating System, you now have 3 times as much data behind the actuator on Mod-9's as Mod-3's. If the

SADUMP on ATL

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Re: Set Clock Command

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:00:30 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:52:11 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: >> >>Unfortunately the sysplex timer only support 1 offset. >> >Does that mean you must choose between GMT and LOCAL? Ugh. >Even if it supported two offsets, that's not enough. But

Re: Ikjeft01

What's wrong with CALL TSOLNK using "TSOEXEC RL ..."?. It will invoke TMP and will run your command. ITschak On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Scott Ford wrote: > Sorry guys my fault, I should have explained. My LE COBOL program is APF > authorized. > I want to be able to all call IKJEFT01 to i

Re: Going from mod-3 to mod9

Hi Dennis, We moved onto an mixed rack of mod 3 and mod 9 3390s on  Hitachi disk.  We do not have PAV (cost). C are was taken to place data so that performance would still  be good.  Our heavily hit datasets - database, online VSAM, etc. were keep on mod 3 . T hings like dlibs, res, and some

Re: Going from mod-3 to mod9

In <45e5f2f45d7878458ee5ca679697335502e25...@usdaexch01.kbm1.loc>, on 01/23/2012 at 09:08 AM, "Staller, Allan" said: >From the viewpoint of the Operating System, you now >have 3 times as much data behind the actuator on Mod-9's as Mod-3's. >If the Operating system *thinks* the device is busy,

Re: DFHSM: Backup tape lost due to errors

:>:-Original Message- :>:From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On :>:Behalf Of R.S. :>:Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 AM :>:To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu :>:Subject: Re: DFHSM: Backup tape lost due to errors :>: :>:W dniu 2012-01-22 05:21, Joel C. Ewing pisze: :

Re: Set Clock Command

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:52:11 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: > >Unfortunately the sysplex timer only support 1 offset. > Does that mean you must choose between GMT and LOCAL? Ugh. Even if it supported two offsets, that's not enough. But the Sysplex Timer (AKA ETR? AKA STP?) should support only GMT.

Re: Ikjeft01

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:25:30 -0500, Scott Ford wrote: >Sorry guys my fault, I should have explained. My LE COBOL program is APF >authorized. >I want to be able to all call IKJEFT01 to invoke authorized functions. These >calls are RACF or one of the other security subsystems. I know certain >a

Re: Ikjeft01

I'm fairly sure that Walt Farrel (RACF person) would strongly suggest using the RACF HLL Callable Services http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICHZD1B0/2.19 But this is probably not as easy. One vague thing rattling around in my head , is to use REXX. http://publibz.boul

Re: Ikjeft01

In <7589649e-98dc-4d06-9e4e-6c18179b3...@yahoo.com>, on 01/23/2012 at 10:18 AM, Scott Ford said: >Does anyone know or have called IKJEFT01 from a LE COBOL program. Ever since TSO/E, the TMP has reqired APF authorization. Walt suggested a viable alternative, depending on what you're really try

Re: Going from mod-3 to mod9

In <45e5f2f45d7878458ee5ca679697335502e25...@usdaexch01.kbm1.loc>, on 01/23/2012 at 09:08 AM, "Staller, Allan" said: >Beware of IOSQ! From the viewpoint of the Operating System, you now >have 3 times as much data behind the actuator on Mod-9's as Mod-3's. >If the Operating system *thinks* the

Re: Set Clock Command

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:14:52 -0800, Skip Robinson wrote: >I'm curious. We have not done 'SET CLOCK' for 15 years since we acquired >sysplex timers and now have STP. Time changes are automatic/programmed. Is >the reason for using manual processes strictly financial? > Unfortunately the sysplex t

Re: Going from mod-3 to mod9

On 01/23/2012 10:09 AM, Staller, Allan wrote: Generally speaking...Yes IOW, the response time is more likely to increase than to decrease, and increased response time is a Bad Thing PAV, Cache, and RAID all have impacts that mitigate the 1:3 (or worse) actuator to data ratio on mod 9 vs. 3 m

Re: DFSORT - How to split detailed record based on master record

Minoru Massaki at IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 01/23/2012 08:47:00 AM: > I'm looking for a way to do following by DFSORT. I have read through > DFSORT manuals but I could not find out the method. Your help would > be highly appreciated. > > There is a master file which contains Volume

Re: Set Clock Command

Our time changes don't occur right at 02:00. Unfortunately, we have some applications that do not tolerate the time change well, so we typically shut them down. We no longer IPL in the spring, and just do the SET TIMEZONE command. However in the fall we still do IPL. I'd love to get away from

Re: Ikjeft01

Sorry guys my fault, I should have explained. My LE COBOL program is APF authorized. I want to be able to all call IKJEFT01 to invoke authorized functions. These calls are RACF or one of the other security subsystems. I know certain authorized calls I cannot make , now I am submitting a batch I

How (when) does symbolic substitution "kick in"? (Was: "I guess I outsmarted myself")

Mark I expect you'll get an authoritative answer from somebody and, to that end, I have given your query a more suitable title! Based on what I learn from z/OS Communications Server, the "MVS" product itself is responsible for making symbolic substitutions, so you cannot simply expect it alway

Re: Set Clock Command

I'm curious. We have not done 'SET CLOCK' for 15 years since we acquired sysplex timers and now have STP. Time changes are automatic/programmed. Is the reason for using manual processes strictly financial? . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler

Re: DFSORT - How to split detailed record based on master record

I think that the JOINKEYS may be able to do what you want. But I've not used it myself. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICE1CA50/5.0 John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarketsR 9151 Boulevard 26 ? N. Richland Hills ? T

DFSORT - How to split detailed record based on master record

I'm looking for a way to do following by DFSORT. I have read through DFSORT manuals but I could not find out the method. Your help would be highly appreciated. There is a master file which contains Volume serial (VOLSER). The master file is sorted by VOLSER and there is NO duplicate VOLSER. Ea

Re: Ikjeft01

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:01:42 -0600, Walt Farrell wrote: >On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:18:41 -0500, Scott Ford wrote: > >>Does anyone know or have called IKJEFT01 from a LE COBOL program. >>I have read manuals and googled and found no definitive answer. > >I believe that IKJEFT01 must be invoked APF-auth

Re: Set Clock Command

We do. Mostly out of application cautiousness. Much like still IPLing to go backwards in time in the fall. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD R

Re: Set Clock Command

We only do that on time change weekend. At 02:00 local time Sunday. And we don't normally have any jobs running at that time. But it is not our intention to not run jobs then. We just generally don't. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 B

Re: Going from mod-3 to mod9

Generally speaking...Yes IOW, the response time is more likely to increase than to decrease, and increased response time is a Bad Thing PAV, Cache, and RAID all have impacts that mitigate the 1:3 (or worse) actuator to data ratio on mod 9 vs. 3 mod 3. These impacts may not be part of the inte

Re: Ikjeft01

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:18:41 -0500, Scott Ford wrote: >Does anyone know or have called IKJEFT01 from a LE COBOL program. >I have read manuals and googled and found no definitive answer. I believe that IKJEFT01 must be invoked APF-authorized, and that probably your COBOL program runs unauthorize

Re: PDSE

In <2352892735591824.wa.nitzibmgmx@bama.ua.edu>, on 01/23/2012 at 02:35 AM, Barbara Nitz said: >The implications are generally not really understood. Neither are the implications of update jobname(*). -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Going from mod-3 to mod9

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:52:27 -0600, Staller, Allan wrote: >*Yes*. Hardware improvements have reduced the impact, but the issue >still exists. Think lots of itty-bitty datasets on a mod 9. > >You previously had 3 "logical" actuators to access 3 units of data . >With mod 9 you have 1 "logical" actua

Re: Ikjeft01

On 1/23/2012 8:18 AM, Scott Ford wrote: All, Does anyone know or have called IKJEFT01 from a LE COBOL program. I have read manuals and googled and found no definitive answer. Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com What are you trying to accomplish? I've inv

Re: PDSE

In , on 01/22/2012 at 08:34 PM, John Gilmore said: >It is a question of karma or luck too, and that can run out. ___ ^ will -- Shmuel (Sey

Re: Going from mod-3 to mod9

Is z/OS unaware of the underlying RAID and designed not to dispatch concurrent operations to what it sees as a single device? Correct! With the exception of PAV (which was invented to address the IOSQ issue!) We could get into a long discussion here, but "large" datasets that take up most of a m

Re: Set Clock Command

I am curious in other shops that use the 'T TIMEZONE' command if they stop batch work before issuing the command. Thanks Matt -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:29 PM To: I

Re: Going from mod-3 to mod9

*Yes*. Hardware improvements have reduced the impact, but the issue still exists. Think lots of itty-bitty datasets on a mod 9. You previously had 3 "logical" actuators to access 3 units of data . With mod 9 you have 1 "logical" actuator to access the same amount of data. From: IBM Mainframe Disc

Re: DFHSM: Backup tape lost due to errors

On 01/23/2012 02:46 AM, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2012-01-22 05:21, Joel C. Ewing pisze: I've said it before, but will say it again: modern tape media has such a large capacity that a single dfhsm cartridge can contain an incredibly large number of datasets. It is almost inevitable that loss of a singl

Re: Ikjeft01

Scott, I know of COBOL APs that create a jobstream/card-image sequence that in turn invokes IKJEFT01, writing it out to the internal reader; and I have myself done this in PL/I. Are you thinking of something more direct? --jg On 1/23/12, Scott Ford wrote: > All, > > Does anyone know or have ca

Re: DFSORT manual humour

Richard, Actually the 9393 was the RAMAC virtual array (RVA) made by StorageTek. We just shut ours down about 5 years ago, used 4 GB drives in it. The other RAMAC devices were a 9391 and 9392 (among other numbers) These were called the RAMAC2 devices and were either disk drawers sitting behi

Re: Going from mod-3 to mod9

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:18:09 -0500, Jousma, David wrote: >Iosq? Really? This is raid dasd, isn't "slow" 3390-9's a thing of >the past? > Is z/OS unaware of the underlying RAID and designed not to dispatch concurrent operations to what it sees as a single device? >-Original Message- >

Re: Going from mod-3 to mod9

Probably only true if you have a good cache-hit-rate, but this depends on the box. PAVs will certainly help here if the box supports them and you have configured them. Kees. "Jousma, David" wrote in message news:... > Iosq? Really? This is raid dasd, isn't "slow" 3390-9's a thing of > the p

Re: Going from mod-3 to mod9

Iosq? Really? This is raid dasd, isn't "slow" 3390-9's a thing of the past? _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653

Ikjeft01

All, Does anyone know or have called IKJEFT01 from a LE COBOL program. I have read manuals and googled and found no definitive answer. Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com -- For IBM-MAIN su

Re: PDSE

Barbara Nitz writes: Because vendors and IBM demand to have their datasets it put into LINKLIST. Partly because they don't support ISPLLIB and dynamic steplib is frowned upon by IBM, too. Partly because vendors and components other than those supported by Peter Relson have no clue about the impac

Re: Going from mod-3 to mod9

1. We just had 3390-9's configured into our EMC box. This box also contains 3390-3's. Given that the hardware is the same throughout and all other things being equal, is there any decrease in response time on the mod-9's? Beware of IOSQ! From the viewpoint of the Operating System, you now have 3

Re: question about report writer usage

On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:48:58 -0800, Sam Siegel wrote: >Hi - The following questions was approved by Darren for distribution >on the list. > >I'm trying to determine if any of the following production are in >active use at your shop. > >Easytrieve >DYL260, DYL280 (CA vision:results) >QUICKJOB >CA-

Re: JESJCLIN / SAPI / SDSB

Hi I also wanted to get the JESJCLIN a while ago, asked here the newsgroup, and the suggestion was to use SDSB. As far as I can remember you always have a JES token via SAPI, and with this token and SDSB you can allocate the JESJCLIN. On 1/23/2012 3:22 PM, ESHEL Jonathan wrote: Hello,

JESJCLIN / SAPI / SDSB

Hello, We currently have a product that captures data from SYSOUT files of both JES2 and JES3 so by using SAPI we pick up the 3 JES data-sets JESMSGLG, JESJCL and JESYSMSG. We now need to capture also the original input JCL (data-set JESJCLIN) using the same method or as similar as possible. Ke

Re: PDSE

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:25:34 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >Can LINKLIST contain aliases? IIRC (but I may not remember correctly) SETPROG ADD can specify an alias. However, >If so: > >(0) Place the alias name in PARMLIB LINKLIST defs; >IDCAMS DEFINE ALIAS to the real data set name. >(1) cre

Re: question about report writer usage

Sam Siegel wrote: >Other commercial report writer not listed above. >If any of these product are installed on one of you systems it would be >greatly appreciated if you could respond OFFLIST letting me know which ones >you use. Sorry for replying ONLIST, but could you be kind to elaborate on

Re: question about report writer usage

Our shop uses Easytrieve and CA-EARL - mostly because of old stuff still being run. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 1:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: question about report

I guess I outsmarted myself

In our AXR00 parmlib member I setup the comand prefix character as; CPF('REXX&SYSCLONE.',SYSPLEX) Which is exactly what I wanted...until I tried to use it in an Omegamon event command. I'm getting this error from zOS; rexx&sysclone. D T IEE305I REXX&SYS COMMAND INVALID I would have though

Re: Catching a Phantom

On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:09:49 -0600, Joel C. Ewing wrote: >On 01/20/2012 05:50 AM, Jan MOEYERSONS wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:21:01 -0600, Chase, John wrote: >> >> >> I think this may be related to the fact that an MQ triggering message is >> made available to the initiation queue at the ve

Re: JAR sampling program to estimate load impact after system changes?

Cheryl Watson's BoxScore product may do part of what you're looking for. http://www.watsonwalker.com/boxscore.html I have no personal experience with it though and don't know if it looks at specialty engine utilization as part of it's complications. Also, I've noted significant variation in ru

Re: PDSE

>It may perhaps be time to restate the obvious. > >LINKLST has come to be used in situations remote from its original >narrow focus, which was to improve real and virtual program-fetch >performance from certain system datasets. > >It does this well, but it was never intended that volatile program

Re: DFHSM: Backup tape lost due to errors

W dniu 2012-01-22 05:21, Joel C. Ewing pisze: I've said it before, but will say it again: modern tape media has such a large capacity that a single dfhsm cartridge can contain an incredibly large number of datasets. It is almost inevitable that loss of a single dfhsm ML2 or Backup cartridge will