Re: Any way to get the XLC compiler to list all #define symbols?

2012-02-14 Thread Michael Klaeschen
for me, options PPONLY and SHOWM worked: //COMPILE EXEC PGM=CCNDRVR, //PARM=('/CXX OPTFILE(DD:CCOPT) PPONLY SHOWM') output is written to DD SYSUT10 see 4.107 of XL C/C++ Users Guide. Cheers Michael Von:Charles Mills An: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Datum: 2012-02-14 19:12 Betreff:

Re: Any way to get the XLC compiler to list all #define symbols?

2012-02-14 Thread David Crayford
On 15/02/2012 2:11 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Does anyone know of a way to get the XLC compiler to list all of the #define symbols that are in effect? XREF and ATTR list all ordinary symbols. There are several ways of course of determining the define "state" of any particular #define symbol. But do

Re: SHOWZOS 720 and z/OS 1.12

2012-02-14 Thread Field, Alan C.
Yes. CEE Parmlib member CEEPRM suffix=00 LE run-time options CEEPRM (CEEDOPT) CEEOCB Version not valid: 0015 LE run-time options CEEPRM (CEECOPT) CEEOCB Version not valid: 0015 LE run-time options CEE

SHOWZOS 720 and z/OS 1.12

2012-02-14 Thread Anthony Fletcher
Has anyone else seen the following when trying to check the LE options? This is V720 on z/OS 1.12. LE run-time options CEEPRM (CEEDOPT) CEEOCB Version not valid: 0015 LE run-tim

Re: IPLTEXT query

2012-02-14 Thread Ed Finnell
It's all part of the BUILD process. IPLTEXT on SYSRES, SADUMP on MCAT, ICKSAR on Paging volumes. JCL in SAMPLIB? In a message dated 2/14/2012 5:38:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, jo.skip.robin...@sce.com writes: When you rewrite new text, ICKDSF will warn you that text already exists. Jus

Re: IPLTEXT query

2012-02-14 Thread Skip Robinson
If you're at all unsure, by far the easiest procedure is simply to (re)write the appropriate IPL text on the volume in question. Even if evidence of IPL text is found by means suggested by others, how do you know it's the right flavor? IPL text gets modified periodically by PTF, especially SAD

Re: Changing sysplex hardware

2012-02-14 Thread Skip Robinson
There are two sides to the sysplex coin: one lives on DASD, the other lives in the CF. As long as DASD is fully replicated, the newly IPLed sysplex member(s) should look exactly like the old. CF is another matter. In the CFRM policy, each CF is identified by a unique combination of properties:

Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit

2012-02-14 Thread Dick Bond
I have one card - punched with the eternal single finger salute! Fun times ... On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: > Anyone remember the 96-column cards? I'd like to find a box of them. > > Rick > --**-- > > On 1/16/2012 10:13 PM, Mo

Re: Changing sysplex hardware

2012-02-14 Thread Mike Schwab
Resync after the secondary volume is updated? If the mirroring software supports that, it would save a lot of retransmitting. I am fairly sure the ESS F20 and 800 PPRC did not have that, and the user did not say what he is using to mirror. But you only need that after a backout after running at

Re: Simple iinventory control products?

2012-02-14 Thread Greg Shirey
Ed, That's who I was talking about, too - people who support and work with their products. Regards, Greg -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:23 AM Greg: I should have been more specific but I was taking ab

Looking for an old macro library

2012-02-14 Thread Longnecker, Dennis
Somewhere along the line we deleted an old macro library for a product called SSNAME3 from Search Software America called .H. It is used when assembling the libraries. We have the other libraries, but not that one. I imagine what happened is that the library got archived off and was not acces

Re: Changing sysplex hardware

2012-02-14 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Mike, Wouldn't number 10 be a massive amount of unnecessary work and replication? I was under the impression that if you had replication going between the two arrays and you suspended the replication, that you could bring up the replication targets in a read/write mode on the new servers. If

Re: z/OS R13 Migration Refresh Information Available!

2012-02-14 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Hey Marna, Back to the future? *This is a major revision to GA22-7499-19 as updated April 2012. * (sic) ;-) jan On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Marna WALLE wrote: > Hello IBM-MAINers, > I've had several questions about when the latest updates to the z/OS R13 > Migration books would be av

Re: Changing sysplex hardware

2012-02-14 Thread Mike Schwab
Since you are moving the entire datacenter and all dasd is already replicated, then. Old location: 1. Shut down your existing systems. Old location prefered. 2. Break dasd replications. New location. 3. IPL one system. 4. Start Sysplex using your new datasets. 5. IPL the other systems. Backout: Ne

Re: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-14 Thread Ron Hawkins
Thomas, I've done this with DFSMS for a large, multi-country application where the developers simply coded UNIT=SMALL, MEDIUM, LARGE and HUGE in the JCL. The ACS routines took this UNIT value, along with some other logic and assigned a standard space allocation using the appropriate DATACLAS. Th

Re: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-14 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 2/14/2012 9:42 AM, Thomas Berg wrote: AFAICS, what needs to be changed is just the interpretation of the SPACE parm and the actual allocation on disk at the time of execution. -> There have been changes in the JCL "language" the latest Years: LIKE, DCB subparms outside of the DCB parm, etc.

Re: NASA closes it's last mainframe

2012-02-14 Thread Ed Finnell
Yeah, but the inverse femtobarns of data needs processing too! In a message dated 2/14/2012 7:50:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca writes: Support for scientific and compute intensive application probably has not kept up on the mainframe. -

Re: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-14 Thread Charles Mills
> since F'-1' has set the high bit already ... but A(=F'-1') does not -- it is the very ordinary address of a constant F'-1' in the literal pool. Not that it matters ... Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Robert A. R

Re: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-14 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 22:25 -0500 on 02/13/2012, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about Re: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort: Does the sort expect a non-standard plist? Should the 4rh word be A(=F'-1')+X'8000'? That +X'8000' is not needed (and can cause problems) since F'-1' has set the high bit already -

Re: System Dumps and SMS allocation fails

2012-02-14 Thread Ken Leidner
Well the problem has been solved, thanks to all for their thoughts. I removed the space and DCB attributes, except for the DSNTYPE=LARGE from the dataclass and all is well. Not quite sure why, but whatever works. Ken Leidner kleid...@earthlink.net ---

Re: SmartFTP and MVS files

2012-02-14 Thread Barkow, Eileen
The way to reference a MVS file in most unix commands is: "//'mvs.file.name'" Maybe SmartFTP does the same. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Neal Eckhardt Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Any way to get the XLC compiler to list all #define symbols?

2012-02-14 Thread Charles Mills
Does anyone know of a way to get the XLC compiler to list all of the #define symbols that are in effect? XREF and ATTR list all ordinary symbols. There are several ways of course of determining the define "state" of any particular #define symbol. But does anyone know of an option or a "trick" to ge

Re: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-14 Thread Frank Yaeger
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz at IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 02/13/2012 07:25:11 PM: > Does the sort expect a non-standard plist? Should the 4rh word be > A(=F'-1')+X'8000'? The end of the extended parameter list is indicated by a F'-1' (X'') word. For details, see: http://publ

Re: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:28:58 +0100, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: >"Paul Gilmartin" wrote in message >> >> And now I may add to my list another example or two of IBM's having >> a good idea but implementing it in the wrong layer. This should have >> been done not in MQ and/or DB2, but in allocatio

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:26:38 -0500, Lizette Koehler wrote: > >I think it was amazing that IBM was able to eliminate the need for >DCB=(x) and just let us use the subparms. > My conjecture is that the UNIX file systems provided the impetus for this. The designers wanted to allow RECFM, LRECL,

SmartFTP and MVS files

2012-02-14 Thread Neal Eckhardt
For some reason the magical combination of characters necessary to get SmartFTP to move an MVS file is escaping me. I have tried all combinations of double quotes, single quotes, periods after the first qalifier, etc to no avail. The filename still shows up in the CWD with a '/' in front of the

Re: NASA closes it's last mainframe

2012-02-14 Thread Scott Ford
Meant to say Itschak that's funny, liked it Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Itschak Mugzach wrote: > No, They are using Russian platforms for space flights (soon on Virgin)... > ;-) No need for software or hardware. all

z/OS R13 Migration Refresh Information Available!

2012-02-14 Thread Marna WALLE
Hello IBM-MAINers, I've had several questions about when the latest updates to the z/OS R13 Migration books would be available. I'm happy to say that they are now available near the bottom of this page on this website: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/installation/index.html . Look for

Re: NASA closes it's last mainframe

2012-02-14 Thread Scott Ford
It's hack, That was funny, I liked that Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Itschak Mugzach wrote: > No, They are using Russian platforms for space flights (soon on Virgin)... > ;-) No need for software or hardware. all supp

Re: Changing sysplex hardware

2012-02-14 Thread Staller, Allan
It is not clear if you are moving the entire SYSPLEX, or merely one or more of the members. It you are moving the entire SYSPLEX, perhaps a SYSPLEX wide restart is appropriate. However, even if you are moving one or more members of the SYSPLEX, why not use the "standard" SYSPLEX facilities to ass

SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-14 Thread Thomas Berg
> -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] För > Lizette Koehler > Skickat: den 14 februari 2012 13:27 > Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Ämne: Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) > > > > > > > But, this is prec

Re: Workload Manager Performance

2012-02-14 Thread Staller, Allan
Cheryl Watson's Quick Start policy is a good place to begin for the WLM policy. RMF Mon III (SYSPLEX SUMMARY) and RMF Mon I (Post Processor) SYSRPTS(WLMGL(SCLASS,SCPER)) will show you how things are running. HTH, Is there any utilities that can be used to monitor WLM? Also, is there any util

Re: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <1020628937438662.wa.stylenpfoneconsulting@bama.ua.edu>, on 02/13/2012 at 11:31 AM, Staffan Tylen said: >So, who is the first to spot the obvious flaw that I can't see? Does the sort expect a non-standard plist? Should the 4rh word be A(=F'-1')+X'8000'? -- Shmuel (Seymour J

Re: NASA closes it's last mainframe

2012-02-14 Thread Itschak Mugzach
No, They are using Russian platforms for space flights (soon on Virgin)... ;-) No need for software or hardware. all supplied by the Russian space industry. (I am jocking, of course). ITschak On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Scott Ford wrote: > All, > > Very interesting article / blog, but anyo

Re: NASA closes it's last mainframe

2012-02-14 Thread Clark Morris
On 14 Feb 2012 05:14:23 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >All, > >Very interesting article / blog, but anyone know why NASA pulled the plug on >their last mainframe? Cost ? My guess is that the applications they wanted to run had better software and hardware support on other platforms

Re: 5 Byte Device Addresses?

2012-02-14 Thread Richards, Robert B.
On this DISPLAY of IPLINFO, the first position is the channel set, the last four the device address. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re:

Re: 5 Byte Device Addresses?

2012-02-14 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-02-14 14:06, Dan D pisze: I'm wondering when 5 byte UCBs came into service and where this data comes from. UCBCHAN in a z/OS 1.12 and 13 system's MODGEN still shows as 2 bytes. How do you get 5 hex characters represented out of 2 bytes? D IPLINFO IEE254I 18.36.23 IPLINFO DISPLAY SYS

Re: Life of a JOB

2012-02-14 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Thanks, and thanks to Tony who took the time to scan his hardcopy. I am hoping to pass this on to our newer folks with the addition of which control blocks get created at each stage. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kamme

Re: Very Lage Page Datasets (was ASM and HiperPAV)

2012-02-14 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
SIS seems to be working again. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: NASA closes it's last mainframe

2012-02-14 Thread Scott Ford
All, Very interesting article / blog, but anyone know why NASA pulled the plug on their last mainframe? Cost ? Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Feb 13, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Bob Shannon wrote: >> One of my favorite SHARE sessions was in San Diego 20

5 Byte Device Addresses?

2012-02-14 Thread Dan D
I'm wondering when 5 byte UCBs came into service and where this data comes from. UCBCHAN in a z/OS 1.12 and 13 system's MODGEN still shows as 2 bytes. How do you get 5 hex characters represented out of 2 bytes? D IPLINFO IEE254I 18.36.23 IPLINFO DISPLAY SYSTEM IPLED AT 17.34.39 ON 01/10/2012 RELE

Re: Very Lage Page Datasets (was ASM and HiperPAV)

2012-02-14 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
No problem with me (in Belgium). *OA38742: DIFFERENCE in ASMIORQR / ASMIORQC COUNTS become LARGE ENOUGH to AFFECT FRAME STEAL PROCESSING and ASMIORQR INCREMENTED TOO HIGH* During AUX paging, I/O is scheduled to drive input and/or output I/O to auxiliary page packs. When an I/O erro

Re: Very Lage Page Datasets (was ASM and HiperPAV)

2012-02-14 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
I get the same error on OA38542 and OA37992, so I think it's just SIS itself. I opened a problem. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-M

Re: Very Lage Page Datasets (was ASM and HiperPAV)

2012-02-14 Thread Barbara Nitz
>> Just to follow up on this, APAR OA38742 has been >> opened. This problem was introduced in z/OS 1.13. >> >I tried to look at the apar in IBMLINK and received this error; > >An error has occurred: > >* An error occurred accessing the database: RPA0 401. > >Is it a security/integrity apar?

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-14 Thread Lizette Koehler
> > > > But, this is precisely what SMS and DATACLAS are for. It does > > accomplish, for the most part, SPACE=ANY. > > Not fully using SMS is so 80s' > > If so, do You really see everyone that creates and submits JCLs to create/change > DATACLAS/STORCLAS instead of editing the SPACE= parms ? >

Re: Very Lage Page Datasets (was ASM and HiperPAV)

2012-02-14 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 02/13/12 20:03, Jim Mulder wrote: Just to follow up on this, APAR OA38742 has been opened. This problem was introduced in z/OS 1.13. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscrib

Re: IPLTEXT query

2012-02-14 Thread Lizette Koehler
> > Hi All, > > How to know that a specific SYSRES volume has the IPLTEXT in it ? > > Apology if my question doesn't makes any sense and it requires more information. > > Regards, > Jakes > So what have you found so far in your research? What specifically are you trying to find out? You mi

Re: IPLTEXT query

2012-02-14 Thread Paul Gillis
We add the IPLTEXT to the volume prior to using it the first time. Cheers, Paul Gillis > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Jake anderson > Sent: Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:21 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: IPL

Re: IPLTEXT query

2012-02-14 Thread Stephen Mednick
Try doing a print of track 0 of Cylinder 0. Stephen Mednick Computer Supervisory Services Sydney, Australia Asia/Pacific representatives for: Innovation Data Processing, Inc. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jake anderson

IPLTEXT query

2012-02-14 Thread Jake anderson
Hi All, How to know that a specific SYSRES volume has the IPLTEXT in it ? Apology if my question doesn't makes any sense and it requires more information. Regards, Jakes -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access inst

Re: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-14 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Paul Gilmartin" wrote in message news:<2205241542597622.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu>... > On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:23:14 +0100, R.S. wrote: > > > >The only application I know that manages extent size - that means using > >some algorithm for extent increase - is MQ Series aka Wbesphere MQ > >

Changing sysplex hardware

2012-02-14 Thread Natasa Savinc
Hello, we are moving data center to another location. The data is already there on DASD, replicated synchronously. We plan to stop the sysplex and IPL from the replicated data , on new processor. We pretty much answered all questions so far, except for the sysplex and CF. On new location we have

SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-14 Thread Thomas Berg
> -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] För > Gibney, Dave > Skickat: den 13 februari 2012 22:31 > Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Ämne: Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) > > > -Original Message- > >

Re: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-14 Thread Staffan Tylen
And we have a winner! Well spotted Frank. I made a simple change to the code and set RMODE 24 and the abends disappeared. Many thanks to everyone who responded. Staffan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access ins

Re: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-14 Thread Staffan Tylen
PS. Sorry Brian, you also spotted it but Frank was first :) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN