Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-06-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:12:41 -0500, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: A note for the achives - be aware that working with large screen sizes on z/OS 1.10+ can cause hang conditions in certain ISPF modules unless you increase the HIBFREXT value in TSOKEY00. We had to set our HIBFREXT to

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-03-24 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
(was 3270 emulator cost) On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:09:07 -0700, Mark T. Regan wrote: Tom, Are you doing this with ISPF on v1.10 or an earlier version of z/OS? I ran into the problem with 1.10 after using 65x200 just fine on 1.9.  When I started testing with v1.10, it stopped working. When I  backed

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-03-23 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:16:03 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Mark Zelden wrote: From the ISPF User Guide Vol II, this is the official support statement: 2.1.2 Terminal characteristics 1. ISPF supports screen sizes from 24 x 80 characters to 62 x 160 characters. That's not an official support

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-03-23 Thread Edward Jaffe
Tom Marchant wrote: FWIW, I have been happily using 90x142 since you mentioned it. I got to wondering how big I could go, so I tried 120x160 and got: ISPI001 Invalid screen size. The width cannot exceed 160 and the depth cannot exceed 62 I have determined that 102x160 works and 103x160 does

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-03-23 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991) - Original Message From: Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 11:19:29 AM Subject: Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost) On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:16:03 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Mark Zelden wrote

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-03-23 Thread Tom Marchant
at? -- Tom Marchant - Original Message From: Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 11:19:29 AM Subject: Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost) FWIW, I have been happily using 90x142 since you mentioned it.  I got to wondering how big I

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-03-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:32:45 -0600, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:28:13 -0600, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:42:29 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: Hmmm. I'm playing with it now and it looks pretty good (other than I can't

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-03-10 Thread Rob Scott
Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 rsc...@rs.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: 10 March 2009 14:07 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost) On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:32

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-03-10 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mark Zelden wrote: From the ISPF User Guide Vol II, this is the official support statement: 2.1.2 Terminal characteristics 1. ISPF supports screen sizes from 24 x 80 characters to 62 x 160 characters. That's not an official support statement. That's just simply doc that never got

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-03-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:16:03 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: Mark Zelden wrote: From the ISPF User Guide Vol II, this is the official support statement: 2.1.2 Terminal characteristics 1. ISPF supports screen sizes from 24 x 80 characters to 62 x 160 characters.

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-26 Thread Barbara Nitz
Which IPCS display uses 143 columns? I thought IPCS used only 141. IPCS uses up to 136. We did this already (but it was probably 2 years ago). Nope. IPCS uses what it can get, it seems. I just see the proof in a verbx mtrace output row 60, column 157 for one message. I must have missed the

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-26 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:32:09 -0600, Tom Marchant m42tom- ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote: I used to routinely specify LOGMODE=D4C32XX3 when I connected. That was before I learned that I could add this to the [Telnet3270] section in PComm: TerminalTypeString=IBM-DYNAMIC That tells TCPIP to use that as

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:25:37 -0600, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: Which IPCS display uses 143 columns? I thought IPCS used only 141. IPCS uses up to 136. We did this already (but it was probably 2 years ago). Nope. IPCS uses what it can get, it seems. I just see the proof in a verbx

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-25 Thread Michael Knigge
Brennan's Vista. At $30 a seat for a perpetual license, you can't get a better TN3270 emulator. Not only is it cheap, it's way better than PCOMM, Extra, RUMBA, etc. Check it out at www.tombrennansoftware.com. I also recommand Vista tn3270 to everyone. But better than is not right. It

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-25 Thread Dave Cartwright
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:24:14 -0800, Natarajan Mohan nmo...@edfund.org wrote: I am not sure whether I have found any emulation software cheaper than mochasoft (not including x3270 on Linux or other flavors of Unix). Its $250 enterprise licence and maintenance is free of cost and includes

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Chris Mason
Barbara Why did your using 62x162 require a mode table entry to be defined for you? Didn't simply using D4A32XX3, D4C32XX3 or D4B32XX3 as appropriate from ISTINCLM or a private mode table equivalent work for you? Since such mode table entries cause the Read Partition-Query exchange to be used

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-25 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:53:16 -0500, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: I like the way Vista looks, but see nothing about SSL/TLS support. It does that too. Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost) Thanks to Ed's encouragement, I've switched my sessions to 62x160 and am very happy with the result.  My screen size choices are limited to those supported by TPX, and 62x160 was the largest that TPX could handle (with one fix which was published about a year ago

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Barbara Nitz
Chris, given that I have no clue when it comes to network things - I asked my network guy. That's his answer: Yes, he's right. I tried. It works with Logmode=D4C32XX3. Then one wouldn't need a specially defined one. Having said that, I am now using 62x162 primarily because I don't have to

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Chris Mason
Barbara You asked so here's my best shot at the answer: D - *D*efault because the mode table entry is in the default table ISTINCLM and, since this is always present concatenated after any private mode tables (MODETAB operand of the LU or LOCAL statement), it implies a mode table entry name

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Brian Peterson wrote: Thanks to Ed's encouragement, I've switched my sessions to 62x160 and am very happy with the result. My screen size choices are limited to those supported by TPX, and 62x160

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz I also use 62x162 (after 'my network guys' - that's how I call them) defined that logmode for me. ... Huh? The D4C32XX3 logmode entry is supplied by IBM in ISTINCLM, which is the default logmode table

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 06:25 -0600, Chris Mason wrote: Or - there's nothing so simple that network guys can't make it complicated! Never a truer word ... I quite often tune out when trying to follow Chris' novella that he passes off as posts. This one actually had enough info I could relate to

Log modes (was Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost))

2009-02-25 Thread Barbara Nitz
Chris, well, like Shane, I managed to read through all your post :-).I *know* why I leave that to my network guys Actually, your query made them start to play with that logmode *and* different screen sizes. The biggest being 200x200. Results in an almost unreadable 15 display. ISPF in the

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Mark Pace
I do NOT understand how you do it. Even with a 17 wide screen monitor the font is to small to read comfortably. Anymore than 43 lines is to hard on my eyes. On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.comwrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:42:29 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote:

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 06:25:13 -0600, Chris Mason wrote: On a serious note, you may like to ask your network guys to look into setting up D4C32XX3 - or a private equivalent - as the mode table entry to be used universally, thereby allowing the emulator user total control of the rows and columns

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:28:13 -0600, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:42:29 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: Hmmm. I'm playing with it now and it looks pretty good (other than I can't figure out how to get a 90x142 display like I'm accustomed to.) Wow! Thanks, Ed.

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:10:12 -0500, Mark Pace wrote: I do NOT understand how you do it. Even with a 17 wide screen monitor the font is to small to read comfortably. Anymore than 43 lines is to hard on my eyes. 17 inches isn't very big, and wide screen doesn't help with this. When I wrote that

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Pace I do NOT understand how you do it. Even with a 17 wide screen monitor the font is to small to read comfortably. Anymore than 43 lines is to hard on my eyes. On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Tom

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Mark Pace
*TerminalTypeString=IBM-DYNAMIC* Thank you for that! On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.comwrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 06:25:13 -0600, Chris Mason wrote: On a serious note, you may like to ask your network guys to look into setting up D4C32XX3 - or a private

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Arthur Gutowski
I was stuck in 54x80 until I followed this thread. Thanks to it, I was inspired to discover the proper ISPF screen size setting to get around the screen size flip going in and out of 80 character data. I always hated 27x133 because of that (reverting back to 24x80 on the main menu - I like

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 Feb 2009 06:15:14 -0800, mpac...@gmail.com (Mark Pace) wrote: I do NOT understand how you do it. Even with a 17 wide screen monitor the font is to small to read comfortably. Anymore than 43 lines is to hard on my eyes. The standards seem to be changing - not quite as fast as my fogey eyes

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:56:41 -0800, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: Barbara Nitz wrote: Out of curiosity, Ed: Given that you're EJES, do you use SDSF? Funny. As one would expect, we use (E)JES exclusively. It's been using the whole display in all of the environments it supports

SV: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Thomas Berg
Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För Mark Zelden Skickat: den 25 februari 2009 16:11 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Ämne: Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost) On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:56:41 -0800, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: Barbara Nitz wrote: Out

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:10:12 -0500, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: I do NOT understand how you do it. Even with a 17 wide screen monitor the font is to small to read comfortably. Anymore than 43 lines is to hard on my eyes. Are you sure? I've had this discussion with many of my co-workers

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Chris Mason
Tom and Mark Using whatever means you have with your TN3270E emulator to specify the RFC 2355 device-type character string to IBM-DYNAMIC assumes that you have kept the TN3270E server mapping of device-types strings to mode table entry names. If you look at the default TELNETDEVICE

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mark Zelden wrote: One thing I have found that has made it much easier for me, is to not use the screen format - data ISPF support nor the alternate primary size that Ed worked so hard to get implemented (BINPSZRC). I use screen size - max all the time so I always see the small size instead of

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread George.William
(was 3270 emulator cost) snip Getting back to the topic in hand, I've bee assisting a customer recently using Extra and we couldn't get away from the rows and columns implied by the standard 3278 model. If there's anyone still reading this who knows different, perhaps they can jump in. Chris

Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Steve Bireley
BlueZone supports custom default and alternate sizes up to 90 x 162 and is easily configured. It also supports multiple explicit partitions allowing split and splitv in ISPF to display 4 sessions. Steve Bireley BlueZone Software Bluezone Secure FTP is Free

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 Feb 2009 08:54:13 -0800, sbire...@bluezonesoftware.com (Steve Bireley) wrote: BlueZone supports custom default and alternate sizes up to 90 x 162 and is easily configured. It also supports multiple explicit partitions allowing split and splitv in ISPF to display 4 sessions. Yesterday I

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-25 Thread Rob Scott
Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 rsc...@rs.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: 25 February 2009 15:52 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost) Mark Zelden wrote: One

3270 emulator cost

2009-02-24 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
As part of a replacement for a 12 year old system at a customer site in Japan, we will be replacing PCs running Windows 95 and IBM's PCOMM 3270 emulator with new PCs running Vista (don't bother) and a PCOMM replacement from IBM called Host Access Client Package. This new package comes with two

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-24 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 3270 emulator cost As part of a replacement for a 12 year old system at a customer site in Japan

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-24 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Try www.ericom.com I worked with most products in the market, they are second best only to IBMs PCOM and only because they don't support console streams. Itschak On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com wrote: As part of a replacement for a 12 year old

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-24 Thread Blaicher, Chris
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 3270 emulator cost As part of a replacement for a 12 year old system at a customer site in Japan, we will be replacing PCs running Windows

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-24 Thread Hal Merritt
, 2009 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 3270 emulator cost As part of a replacement for a 12 year old system at a customer site in Japan, we will be replacing PCs running Windows 95 and IBM's PCOMM 3270 emulator with new PCs running Vista (don't bother) and a PCOMM replacement from IBM called

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
Schwarz, Barry A wrote: Does anyone have any experience with this Host Access Client Package? Are the fees comparable in other countries? Do other packages (Extra, Rumba, etc) charge annual fees? EVERYONE with a reasonably current copy of PCOMM has experience with this package. It's just

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-24 Thread Don Bolton
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 3270 emulator cost As part of a replacement for a 12 year old system at a customer site in Japan, we will be replacing PCs running

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-24 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:02 PM Subject: Re: 3270 emulator cost Schwarz, Barry A wrote: Does anyone have any experience with this Host Access Client Package? Are the fees

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
Pinnacle wrote: I must take issue with my good friend Edward Jaffe over his recommendation of HOD. The HOD installs I've used are just abysmal. No keyboard mapping, bad highlighting and 3270 extended stream support, screwy fonts, no IND$FILE support, just to name a few. Hmmm. I'm playing

Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:42:29 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: Hmmm. I'm playing with it now and it looks pretty good (other than I can't figure out how to get a 90x142 display like I'm accustomed to.) Wow! Thanks, Ed. I've been using 62x142 for a while. Thought that 62 lines was all ISPF would

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-24 Thread Mark Pace
PM Subject: Re: 3270 emulator cost Schwarz, Barry A wrote: Does anyone have any experience with this Host Access Client Package? Are the fees comparable in other countries? Do other packages (Extra, Rumba, etc) charge annual fees? EVERYONE with a reasonably current copy of PCOMM has

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-24 Thread Shane
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 16:53 -0500, Mark Pace wrote: I like the way Vista looks, but see nothing about SSL/TLS support. Tom's had SLL v3 for ages - on the latest/current version. Go download it, and use your current license key. What a deal. Not obvious where it is - well, at least I missed it.

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-24 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: Re: 3270 emulator cost I like the way Vista looks, but see nothing about SSL/TLS support. Tom added SSL support in V1.26. Works great

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-24 Thread Shane
Let's make that SSL Tom's had SLL v3 for ages ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-24 Thread Brian Peterson
Thanks to Ed's encouragement, I've switched my sessions to 62x160 and am very happy with the result. My screen size choices are limited to those supported by TPX, and 62x160 was the largest that TPX could handle (with one fix which was published about a year ago) - TPX basically only handles the

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-24 Thread Natarajan Mohan
I am not sure whether I have found any emulation software cheaper than mochasoft (not including x3270 on Linux or other flavors of Unix). Its $250 enterprise licence and maintenance is free of cost and includes upgrades. Support turnaround time is very quick as well when bugs found.

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
Brian Peterson wrote: Thanks to Ed's encouragement, I've switched my sessions to 62x160 and am very happy with the result. My screen size choices are limited to those supported by TPX, and 62x160 was the largest that TPX could handle (with one fix which was published about a year ago) - TPX

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-24 Thread Barbara Nitz
Just out of curiosity, what do you normally see in columns 143 through 160? Is it mostly just a lot of black (background)? Or do some products/displays you use actually put something useful there? I also use 62x162 (after 'my network guys' - that's how I call them) defined that logmode for me.

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
Barbara Nitz wrote: Out of curiosity, Ed: Given that you're EJES, do you use SDSF? Funny. As one would expect, we use (E)JES exclusively. It's been using the whole display in all of the environments it supports (TSO/TPUT, TSO/PUTLINE, ISPF, CICS, batch, our own multi-user VTAM system,

Re: 3270 emulator cost

2009-02-24 Thread Don Russell
I'll add a second that to recommend jollygiant's QWS3270. or QWS3270 Secure. (The secure version supports SSL/TLS, and may be turned on/off on a per-host basis) My experience with them has been nothing less than GREAT! I've made many suggestions to improve the product over the years and (almost)

Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-24 Thread Barbara Nitz
oh well, Ed, if you want to get picky :-) Which IPCS display uses 143 columns? I thought IPCS used only 141. I was guessing that it goes to column 143. What are 2 columns among friends? Guess it only uses 141. (I am using an inverse colour layout - white background - so the column/line number