Where I'm at now, they just got rid of File Manager and went back to File-Aid,
which they had before. The programmers liked File-Aid better.
I remember, some time in the 90's, getting Ditto in. We had used the old
Ditto, which I think was the same one back from VS1 days. The operators hated
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ken Porowski
>
> IBM* DITTO/ESA for OS/390 or MVS Version 1 Release 3
>
> Is what I have.
> I've been ordering it with my ServerPac's for every z/OS
> release I've had.
> Not really changed since the ESA days (as
On 5/7/08, Ken Porowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> IBM* DITTO/ESA for OS/390 or MVS Version 1 Release 3
>
> Not sure if File Manager is really a replacement, I thought it was a
> competitor for Compuware File-Aid
File Manager incorporates Ditto but includes MUCH, MUCH more functionality.
Ji
the CICS Guy..
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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/06/2008
at 02:24 PM
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/06/2008
at 02:24 PM, Todd Burrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I am trying to read these files on a 3420 tape
What kind of tape? 7-track or 9-track?
>When I run tape map
Which tape map? On what kind of drive?
> I am trying to read these files on a 3420 tape
>d
IBM* DITTO/ESA for OS/390 or MVS Version 1 Release 3
Is what I have.
I've been ordering it with my ServerPac's for every z/OS release I've
had.
Not really changed since the ESA days (as you can tell by it's name).
IMHO lost some functionality when they added security to it (If I KNEW
the %$#* d
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R.
>
> I'm pretty sure Ditto is only shipped with z/OS if you pay for it.
I believe it's called File Manager nowadays, and it is a priced product.
We demo'd Version 1.0 "way back when", and at the time i
I'm pretty sure Ditto is only shipped with z/OS if you pay for it.
Rex
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Can the ta
Do you have SAS ? What does PROC TAPEMAP show you ?
On 5/6/08, Todd Burrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hello:
> I have an oldie but a goodie. One of our user areas sent us 9 3420 tapes
> today, and some of them appear to be 800 BPI. When I run tape map against
> the tape I get the data in t
Can the tape be read with DITTO ? IIRC, ditto is now shipped with z/OS.
On 5/6/08, Todd Burrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hello:
> I have an oldie but a goodie. One of our user areas sent us 9 3420 tapes
> today, and some of them appear to be 800 BPI. When I run tape map against
> the tape
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Wow - you hadn't used the drives for 3 years and they actually worked
when you brought them online! When I was at P&a
Wow - you hadn't used the drives for 3 years and they actually worked when you
brought them online! When I was at P&H, we had 2 3420s left until about a year
before the datacenter closed.
My experience with those old IBM drives was the rubber hoses tended to get
dryed out and crack. I know
DC in any capacity is invited to participate in our
survey.
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I have an oldie but a goodie. One of our user areas sent us 9 3420 tapes
today, and some of them appear to be 800 BPI. When I run tape map against
the tape I get the data in the attachment.
I am trying to read these files on a 3420 tape
drive, and when I put the
2008-05-06 John Eells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 3420-4, -6, and -8 could definitely be used for both 1600bpi and 6250bpi but
> *not* for 800 bpi. I don't recall at this point whether the odd-numbered
> models (-3, -5, -7) could read 800 bpi or were 1600 bpi only. If the latter,
> I think y
It sounds like you may have had DEN= coded in your JCL when you ran the
tapemap, and that is why you got the "800 BPI" error message. Try running
tapemap without DEN=, you should need to specify density for an input tape, in
any case.
If the tape drive was unable to read the tape, you wouldn'
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>I don't recall at this point whether the odd-numbered models (-3, -5, -7)
>could read 800 bpi or were 1600 bpi. only.
The low end 3420 could definitely reads 800 BPI.
I have never worked with anything less than a 3400-series tape drive and we had
a lot of 800 tapes in the 1980's (customer excha
Pommier, Rex R. wrote:
What model of 3420 drive do you have? I am pretty sure at least the
later models (4, 6, and 8) could only read 1600 or 6250 bpi.
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_3420.html
3420-4, -6, and -8 could definitely be used for both 1600bpi and 6250b
On 6 May 2008 13:08:45 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linda Mooney)
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>We got rid of all of our 800 bpi tapes a long time ago- sometime around 1990 I
>think, because the new version of MVS we were installing at the time no
>longer supported 800 bpi. Since we had a major customer who required t
/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:23 PM
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Subject: Re: 3420 old tapes
I appreciate all of the replies. As I had figured, we're pretty much
out of luck right now. We're going to try and figure out a way to get
on a 3420 that can read 800 BPI, but we ma
nda Mooney
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:08 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: 3420 old tapes
We got rid of all of our 800 bpi tapes a long time ago- sometime around
1990 I think, because the new version of MVS we were installing at the
time no longer supported 800 bpi. Since we had a majo
We got rid of all of our 800 bpi tapes a long time ago- sometime around 1990 I
think, because the new version of MVS we were installing at the time no longer
supported 800 bpi. Since we had a major customer who required that support, we
built a front-end read the tapes create a disk file job o
Behalf Of Todd Burrell
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:24 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: 3420 old tapes
Hello:
I have an oldie but a goodie. One of our user areas sent us 9 3420
tapes
today, and some of them appear to be 800 BPI. When I run tape map
against
the tape I get the data in the
Hello:
I have an oldie but a goodie. One of our user areas sent us 9 3420 tapes
today, and some of them appear to be 800 BPI. When I run tape map against
the tape I get the data in the attachment.
I am trying to read these files on a 3420 tape
drive, and when I put the density (DEN=2) into m
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