SIAC is migrating 1600 MIPS from the mainframe to save money.
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SIAC is migrating 1600 MIPS from the mainframe to save money.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richards.Bob) writes:
> I wonder if they will reveal the costs of extra hw/sw for
> high-availability and business continuance associated with this
> migration. Probably
Richards.Bob wrote:
I wonder if they will reveal the costs of extra hw/sw for
high-availability and business continuance associated with this
migration. Probably not.
Bob Richards
The intangible benefits of the mainframe environment never seem to be
factored into the pricing process. Its
I would prefer that Dani get another babysitter.
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On 15 May 2007 08:02:21 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Jacobs)
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>But the lack of these benefits on the cheaper environments usually bites
>you in the a** sometime in the future. But by then the people making
>these decisions have walked away with their bonuses and leave the
>fallout to th
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Brazee) writes:
> I'd also like to see that with politics, but politician's pay is
> power, and that cannot be deferred.But it is more important for a
> Pres
In a message dated 5/15/2007 10:33:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
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has commented that he doesn't believe any congressman in the last fifty
yrs has been capable of middle-school arithmatic.
>>
Yeah, that's the ticket put 'em on 'Are you smarter than a Fifth grader'
Gary Green said
> SIAC is migrating 1600 MIPS from the mainframe to save money.
>
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And Bob Richards asked
> > I wonder if they will reveal the costs of extra hw/sw for
> high-availability and business con
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SIAC is migrating 1600 MIPS from the mainframe to save money.
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Wait'll they see what it REALLY costs!!! HAR DE HAR HAR!!
On 15 May 2007 09:05:08 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craddock,
Chris) wrote:
>On a slightly off-topic note, there is a large body of evidence that
>MOST of the IT budget (75-85%!!) is consumed in just keeping the lights
>on. There is almost nothing left over for either new development, or for
>exploi
>That leaves an opening for an effective way of IBM directing their R&D
>money.And of their marketing.Energy efficiency can be done by
>re-using computer room heat, or by not having as much computer room
heat.
System z9 marketing has focused on energy efficiency for some time. This
is not
Howard Brazee said
> Craddock, Chris wrote:
> >On a slightly off-topic note, there is a large body of evidence that
> >MOST of the IT budget (75-85%!!) is consumed in just keeping the
lights
> >on. <<>>
> That leaves an opening for an effective way of IBM directing their R&D
> money.And of the
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And Bob Richards asked
> I wonder if they will reveal the costs of extra hw/sw for high-
> availability and business continuance associated with this migration.
> Probably not.
Well that's a fine question. Here
> The idea of exchanging server heat for building heat is interesting
>though.
We did this at Aetna twenty five years ago. The heating system didn't
come on until the outside temperature reached 32 F. Until then all the
heat for the data center came from the processors.
Bob Shannon
Rocket Softwar
On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:23:17 -0400, Gary Green wrote:
>SIAC is migrating 1600 MIPS from the mainframe to save money.
>
>http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid80_gci1
254860,00.html
>
I saw a similar story a couple months ago concerning the start of this project.
I se
Do you really think we will get the real story/facts about the savings?
On Tue May 15 12:31 , Dave Kopischke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
>On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:23:17 -0400, Gary Green wrote:
>
>>SIAC is migrating 1600 MIPS from the mainframe to save money.
>>
>>http://searchdatacenter.techtarget
The vendor handling migration seems to be the new owner of UniKix which
used to be owned by Sun a little while ago. Sun wasn't able to do much with
this product, let's see how much success Clerity will have with it.
Mohammad
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:34:12 -0400, Gary Green wrote:
>Do you really think we will get the real story/facts about the savings?
>
No, but if you don't ask, you can't complain about the FUD they're generating
with a story like this, can you
I've already sent follow up requests on 3 or 4 of t
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:34:12 -0400, Gary Green wrote
On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:12:44 -0400, Bob Shannon wrote:
>> The idea of exchanging server heat for building heat is interesting
>>though.
>
>We did this at Aetna twenty five years ago. The heating system didn't
>come on until the outside temperature reached 32 F. Until then all the
>heat for the dat
On 15 May 2007 11:06:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson,
Steve) wrote:
>[Side note: my wife retired from a certain Electric Utility. She has a
>full Masters (not just an MBA, but she has one of those too). She has
>commented to me many times about how the "fast trackers" in a company
>have abou
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> [ snip ]
>
> [Side note: my wife retired from a certain Electric Utility.
> She has a full Masters (not just an MBA, but she has one of
> those too). She has commented to me many times about how
I was ajust about to say, I had seen the computer room heat used to heat the
building, but I couldn't remember the site.
Thanks
Bill
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On 15 May 2007 10:12:54 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Shannon)
wrote:
>> The idea of exchanging server heat for building heat is interesting
>>though.
>
>We did this at Aetna twenty five years ago. The heating system didn't
>come on until the outside temperature reached 32 F. Until then all the
>h
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:34:12 -0400, Gary Green wrote:
Do you really think we will get the real story/facts
about the savings?
No, but if you don't ask, you can't complain about the FUD
they'r
On Tue, 15 May 2007 16:04:50 -0400, Arthur T. wrote:
> I recently tried twice to get information about a
>government agency's privacy provisions and was ignored. On
>my third try, I suggested that local newspapers might be
>able to get the information for me, but would also likely
>be intere
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Gary:
About 15 years ago I was ahead of a project to move off OEM to an NJE
connection with them. I stepped them through the JES2 changes needed
for the connection to happen. Saying that, I am surprised it hasn't
happened sooner. The people I had exposure to then (and afterwards)
was to s
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/15/2007
at 01:30 PM, Howard Brazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>This works as long as we need at least as much heat as being produced
>- to reduce some of the energy waste from the computers.
It also works if we need less.
>But we can't turn off the computer when
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Subject: Another "migration" from the mainframe
SIAC is migrating 1600 MIPS from the mainframe to save money.
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On 15 May 2007 14:35:16 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John)
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>1) They'll deny it by creative accounting.
> This happened at one place that I worked when the PC revolution
>was "new". The individual departments were responsible for their own PC
>workstations and software. Therefore
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