Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?

2010-11-04 Thread Cobe Xu
That sounds interesting... I accept Tom's opinion that as long as the 4HRA is lower than the cap, some interval could be ran above the cap. However, in your scenario, if the 4HRA stabilze ABOVE the set defined capacity, it should not be more than 4 intervals, because the 5th interval will be the

Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?

2010-11-04 Thread Cobe Xu
...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Cobe Xu Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 5:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC? Hi list, We aim to cap the only active LPAR on the CEC(26 MSU) to 24 MSU. But, I'm a bit confuse when I checked the RMF CPU Activity

Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?

2010-11-04 Thread Terry Draper
percentage error rate on this.   Terry Draper zSeries Performance Consultant w...@btopenworld.com mobile:  +66 811431287 --- On Wed, 3/11/10, Cobe Xu cob...@gmail.com wrote: From: Cobe Xu cob...@gmail.com Subject: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC? To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date

Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?

2010-11-04 Thread Norman Hollander
, 4 Nov 2010 11:09:33 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC? I am not sure what type of capping you are trying to use.   If you want to use hard capping then this will use the weights

Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?

2010-11-04 Thread Al Sherkow
That 3% is not unexpected. WLM works with PR/SM to implement the cap. WLM does the math and PR/SM does the actually capping. If you read the PR/SM planning guides (as Peter referenced) you'll see that PR/SM manages LPARs to +- 3 percent. I believe that WLM does the calculation to account for

Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?

2010-11-04 Thread Cobe Xu
Response to what am I trying to do?, I'm working on a yearly performance capacity review, and saw many many occasions that CPU overshoot the CAP line about 3%. And I try to figure this out. Thanks all, will check the PR/SM manual for the 1~3% saying. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Al Sherkow

Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?

2010-11-04 Thread Don Deese
You might have more luck if you check for 3.6% rather than 3%. The 3.6% is valid up through z/Enterprise (see Enforcement of processing weights in any of the PR/SM Planning Guides). Regards, Don ** Don Deese, Computer Management Sciences, Inc. Voice: (804) 776-7109 Fax: (804) 776-7139

Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?

2010-11-04 Thread Kelman, Tom
: Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC? Response to what am I trying to do?, I'm working on a yearly performance capacity review, and saw many many occasions that CPU overshoot the CAP line about 3%. And I try to figure this out. Thanks all, will check the PR/SM manual for the 1~3

Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?

2010-11-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Besides, the software MSU figure is not the best thing to use for performance and capacity planning studies. It was designed by IBM solely as a way to keep software costs down. You still have to take MSU's into account. Especially, in Capacity Planning. It does no good to come up with a

CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?

2010-11-03 Thread Cobe Xu
Hi list, We aim to cap the only active LPAR on the CEC(26 MSU) to 24 MSU. But, I'm a bit confuse when I checked the RMF CPU Activity report as below, which shows that with the interval, SYS2 was able to use up to 25 MSU. (Highlighted) So my questions are: 1. Is this because CPU capping

Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?

2010-11-03 Thread Kelman, Tom
Kelman Capacity Planning Commerce Bank, Kansas City -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Cobe Xu Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 5:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC? Hi

Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?

2010-11-03 Thread Peter Bishop
(26 MSU) to 24 MSU. But, I'm a bit confuse when I checked the RMF CPU Activity report as below, which shows that with the interval, SYS2 was able to use up to 25 MSU. (Highlighted) So my questions are: 1. Is this because CPU capping is not working for only one active LPAR on the CEC? If it's

Re: CPU capping is not working for one Lpar only on CEC?

2010-11-03 Thread Al Sherkow
It is possible for the 4HRA of an LPAR to go above the defined capacity limit. This is because the limit goes on typically after four hours of your workload getting bigger and bigger. Eventually the 4HRA exceeds the defined capacity and the cap goes on. As the four hour rolling average goes

cpu capping question

2010-02-10 Thread Tommy Tsui
Hi all, I have following question on CPU hard capping LPAR1 initial capping=No CPU weight 80 = 800mips LPAR2 initial capping=Yes CPU weight 20 = 200mips assume CPU has 1000mips my question is, for LPAR2 the maximum CPU utilization is 200 mips with hard capping but how about LPAR1? the

Re: cpu capping question

2010-02-10 Thread Hal Merritt
Subject: cpu capping question Hi all, I have following question on CPU hard capping LPAR1 initial capping=No CPU weight 80 = 800mips LPAR2 initial capping=Yes CPU weight 20 = 200mips assume CPU has 1000mips my question is, for LPAR2 the maximum CPU utilization is 200 mips with hard capping

Re: cpu capping question

2010-02-10 Thread Tommy Tsui
be considered to manage your machine. HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tommy Tsui Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: cpu capping question Hi all, I have

Re: cpu capping question

2010-02-10 Thread Hal Merritt
, 2010 9:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: cpu capping question Hi Merritt, If LPAR1 (our production) is not capped but LPAR 2 (development) is active (assume the weight=20% or 200 mips, it only utilize 100 mips at night), Can LPAR1 utilize 900 mips at night ??? 2010/2/10 Hal Merritt

Re: cpu capping question

2010-02-10 Thread Al Sherkow
Tommy -- Yes, LPAR 1 has access to the capacity that LPAR 2 is not using. The cap on LPAR2 is a limit only on LPAR2's use of your capacity. Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd. Consulting Expertise on Capacity Planning, Performance Tuning, WLC, LPARs, IRD and LCS Software Seminars on IBM

Re: CPU capping

2007-04-16 Thread Walter Marguccio
From: R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] HARD capping is NOT disruptive. It does require neither LPAR deactivate, nor IPL. AFAIK soft capping *does* prevent CPC to exceed defined capacity. It allows for *temporary* peaks, but you pay for 4-hr rolling average. Radoslaw, you are right in both

Re: CPU capping

2007-04-14 Thread zBlue
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CPU capping

2007-04-13 Thread Walter Marguccio
Hello list, within the Trybuy agreement with IBM, we temporarily enhanced our z890 from capacity setting 230 to 470. Needless to say that everybody within our organization and the customers, too, were impressed by the improved response time. But time has come to get back to our original model,

Re: CPU capping

2007-04-13 Thread R.S.
Walter Marguccio wrote: Hello list, within the Trybuy agreement with IBM, we temporarily enhanced our z890 from capacity setting 230 to 470. Needless to say that everybody within our organization and the customers, too, were impressed by the improved response time. But time has come to get

Re: CPU capping

2007-04-13 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
within the Trybuy agreement with IBM, we temporarily enhanced our z890 from capacity setting 230 to 470. Needless to say that everybody within our organization and the customers, too, were impressed by the improved response time. Walter - I'm guessing its not too much of a stretch to think the

Re: CPU capping

2007-04-13 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:41:07 -0700, Walter Marguccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But time has come to get back to our original model, and I'm looking for a way to make this move as smoothly as possible. I'm thinking to gradually capping the CPs of our PROD LPAR, create a CF lpar , put it in