Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-02 Thread Kelman, Tom
We run Connect:Direct (used to be called NDM) from Sterling Commerce. Yesterday afternoon the started task, CDNDM, took from 50-60% of an engine on our z9BC for almost 2 hours while it transferred a large file. This caused us to hit our softcap and affected other tasks in the system. We have the C

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-02 Thread Mansell, George R.
Kelman, Tom Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage We run Connect:Direct (used to be called NDM) from Sterling Commerce. Yesterday afternoon the started task, CDNDM, took from 50-60% of an engine on our z9BC for almost 2 hours while it

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-02 Thread Dave Thorn
, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage We run

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 2 May 2008 10:53:02 -0500, Kelman, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We run Connect:Direct (used to be called NDM) from Sterling Commerce. >Yesterday afternoon the started task, CDNDM, took from 50-60% of an >engine on our z9BC for almost 2 hours while it transferred a large file. >This caus

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-02 Thread Craddock, Chris
> Hello... VOL=50 basically means half an engine! (I have no idea how many > engines you have). Half an engine? No. It means basically that if you sample the work over a period of time, that 50% of the time that the work was eligible to be dispatched it actually was dispatched. Arguably this is

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-02 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: "Craddock, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage Hello... VOL=50 basically means half an engine! (I have no idea how many engines you

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
> Hello... VOL=50 basically means half an engine! (I have no idea how many > engines you have). Not even close if you have I/O included in the definition of VELOCITY. (A viable option since they removed disconnect time as a component for calculating velocity ~OS/390 2.8, iirc) - Too busy drivin

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-02 Thread Ulrich Krueger
... are there any patches addressing this issue that should be installed? Regards, Ulrich Krueger -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 08:53 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-02 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Fri, 2 May 2008 12:38:52 -0400, Pinnacle wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "Craddock, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:17 PM > >> Half an engine? No. It means basically that if you sample the work over >> a period of time, that 50% of the time that the work wa

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-02 Thread Scott Ford
ch Krueger Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage Is it possible that NDM needs to be tuned (region size, internal config parameters, etc) to be able to better handle large files? Lots of CPU usage for an extended period of time is to me

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-02 Thread Pinnacle
WLM just gave the CPU to NDM. It's not a problem unless you had other higher importance workload affected. Well, I disagree with your "it's not a problem" statement because OP said, "This caused us to hit our softcap and affected other tasks in the system." The softcap issue could be resolv

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-02 Thread Craddock, Chris
Tom said > With apologies to Crash, I gotta go with Z. Velocity 50 for an importance > 4 workload is way high. I would guess also that nothing else was impacted, > so WLM just gave the CPU to NDM. In theory an application that has low cpu demands can achieve a relatively high velocity -unless-

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-02 Thread Patrick Falcone
Well, I like the resource group solution but I have to wonder how well STCLOW does normally with a vel = 50 at imp. 4. I might think that this is a never achieving goal service class from all of what might be in STCLOW, but of course I could be way wrong too. I'd resource cap max it, CD,

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-02 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Kelman, Tom wrote: We run Connect:Direct (used to be called NDM) from Sterling Commerce. Yesterday afternoon the started task, CDNDM, took from 50-60% of an engine on our z9BC for almost 2 hours while it transferred a large file. This caused us to hit our softcap and affected other tasks in the s

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-06 Thread Hal Merritt
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage We run Connect:Direct (used to be called NDM) from Sterling Commerce. Yesterday afternoon the started task, CDNDM

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>If you are encrypting then you need to be careful with compression. >Encrypted data is said to be generally not compressible. Compress first. Then encrypt. If I recall from my basic computer courses in the mid-1970's. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-06 Thread Scott Ford
ou is prohibited. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage >If you are encrypting then you need to be careful with com

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Compress across a large bandwidth pipe isn't the best solutiontesting >bears out that Very little is gained with compress across say a T1 or bigger. I agree. All I meant was if you are going to do both: Compress Then encrypt. I haven't seen value in compression for years. - Too busy drivin

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-06 Thread Hal Merritt
to b). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage Compress across a large bandwidth pipe isn't the best solutiontes

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-06 Thread Thompson, Steve
Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage My test results differ. I've seen upwards of 60% over some very large

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-07 Thread Hal Merritt
I tried to explain that and they laughed me out of the room. Sigh. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-21 Thread Dave Barry
List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craddock, Chris Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage > Hello... VOL=50 basically means half an engine! (I have no idea how many > engines you have). Half an engine? No. It m