Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-20 Thread W. Kevin Kelley
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:32:29 -0600, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >I have a very basic one to complain about: > >DFS0929I BLDL FAILED FOR MEMBER --DDMPPSZ > >This really means that the specified PSB DDMPPSZ is not in the specified IMS library. Why can't it just say that? As an application programmer

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-19 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:32:29 -0600, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >I have a very basic one to complain about: > >DFS0929I BLDL FAILED FOR MEMBER --DDMPPSZ > >This really means that the specified PSB DDMPPSZ is not in the >specified IMS library. Why can't it just say that? As an application > programm

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-17 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I have a very basic one to complain about: DFS0929I BLDL FAILED FOR MEMBER --DDMPPSZ This really means that the specified PSB DDMPPSZ is not in the specified IMS library. Why can't it just say that? As an application programmer do I really need to know that BLDL means, well, whatever it means

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-17 Thread W. Kevin Kelley
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:53:26 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: > >The "IBM convention as to importance (W,I,E,C)" does not apply to >console messages. As far as I know this has always been the case. >For console messages I believe W is for a Wait State message, E is >for an eventual response needed

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:01:03 -0500, Chris Mason wrote: >... ideally USS messages are >composed within the installation and so, if they are inscrutable, >the person to whom to complain should be available with an >"in-organisation" telephone call - assuming the original author >hasn't been "let

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:33:38 -0700, Ed Gould wrote: >... >Pat:I am not sure I agree , but I think that most USS messages are at >best inscrutable. Since I'm one of those that "gets anal" over this use of USS, I'll object up front and you can not care starting now. More importantly, I'm not sur

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-16 Thread Thompson, Steve
du Subject: Re: IBM error messages getting worse? Steve I could say that IBM-MAIN posts were getting worse what with commenting before the quoted post(s) - much preferred by yours truly - or commenting after the quoted posts and maybe not having quoted lines preceded by greater than signs, it can b

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Mason
r messages getting worse? > >--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: > >From: Patrick O'Keefe >Subject: Re: IBM error messages getting worse? >To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:29 PM > >On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:21:22 -0400, David Andrews=20

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-16 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM error messages getting worse? --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: From: Patrick O&

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Mason
/09, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: > >From: Patrick O'Keefe >Subject: Re: IBM error messages getting worse? >To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:29 PM > >On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:21:22 -0400, David Andrews > wrote: > > > >I think you make a ve

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-15 Thread Ed Gould
--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: From: Patrick O'Keefe Subject: Re: IBM error messages getting worse? To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:29 PM On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:21:22 -0400, David Andrews wrote: I think you make a very good point.  There h

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>There have always been absolutely inscrutable MVS messages and there will >probably be new ones. Can you say COBOL, boys and girls? These obscure ones are so 'self-documenting' that there is no reason to document them! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! ---

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-09 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:21:22 -0400, David Andrews wrote: >On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 17:33 -0400, John Mattson wrote: >> Am I just getting more cranky as I age, or are IBM messages >> getting ever more obtuse? > >I wouldn't say more obtuse. Remember this chestnut? > >IEB817I MEMBER NAME NOT

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-09 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 17:33 -0400, John Mattson wrote: > Am I just getting more cranky as I age, or are IBM messages > getting ever more obtuse? I wouldn't say more obtuse. Remember this chestnut? IEB817I MEMBER NAME NOT FOUND IN NM DIRECTORY. STOWED WITH TTR. which meant: "I added a

Re: IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-09 Thread Klein, Kenneth
PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: IBM error messages getting worse? Am I just getting more cranky as I age, or are IBM messages getting ever more obtuse? I just submitted a simple JCL error. Just put in a VOL=SER=XX where XX is a volume we do not have in our shop. Should

IBM error messages getting worse?

2009-07-08 Thread John Mattson
Am I just getting more cranky as I age, or are IBM messages getting ever more obtuse? I just submitted a simple JCL error. Just put in a VOL=SER=XX where XX is a volume we do not have in our shop. Should be a simple error, with a simple IBM Message saying "That VOLSER