Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-06-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/07/2007 at 05:12 PM, Kenneth E Tomiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Assuming the FTP translation tables on both the download and upload >are the same. Why would those matter? You used a "bin" command, which sets image mode. 3.1.1.3. IMAGE TYPE The da

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-06-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 17:12:51 -0500, Kenneth E Tomiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >To download: >ftp> bin >to upload: >ftp> bin > >Assuming the FTP translation tables on both the download and upload are the >same. They are on my test. > What do translation tables have to do with a binary FTP? M

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-06-07 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
IND$FILE lacks the options to do this. FTP requires the right parameters on the downlaod and the upload. - use ISPF to get the original DCB and space information for both the PDS and the sequential backup as you may need them later. To download: ftp> bin 200 Representation type is Image ftp> qu

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/29/2007 at 08:53 AM, Howard Brazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >My wife's Mac runs Windows under Parallels It's not my dog. IAC, my comment was a TIC response to Dave's. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 May 2007 16:22:30 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: >And I suggest dropping all PC's running windoze from a high building; My wife's Mac runs Windows under Parallels - because there are some programs unavailable elsewhere, and she's not Righteous about her operating

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread Ed Gould
On May 25, 2007, at 11:25 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: SNIP Won't that fail spectacularly if the PDS contains members which resemble or are IEBUPDTE command streams? I deem it a design deficiency of IEBUPDTE that it has (AFAIK) no way to escape/p

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 25 May 2007 19:17:12 -0500, Kenneth E Tomiak wrote: >On Fri, 25 May 2007 09:39:16 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >>> >>How do you round-trip and reconstitute an IEBCOPY-unloaded PDS on z/OS? >>I know it's possible; I've done similar as an experiment. But it's >>tedious and scarcely worth th

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
On Fri, 25 May 2007 09:39:16 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >How do you round-trip and reconstitute an IEBCOPY-unloaded PDS on z/OS? >I know it's possible; I've done similar as an experiment. But it's >tedious and scarcely worth the effort. > Far too long ago for me to reme

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/25/2007 at 05:52 PM, Dave Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >According to the documentation, WSA works with Windows, AIX, OS/2, >Solaris and HP UX. For workstations that don't support .EXE, I >recommend dropping them from a high building. And I suggest dropping all

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/25/2007 at 02:21 PM, Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I didn't look at the documentation. I looked at the download panel >for the WSA on a z/OS 1.8 system. There is no longer an OS/2 >version. Don't confuse the download panel with the library that it re

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/25/2007 at 09:39 AM, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >And what do you recommend for a "workstation" incapable of dealing >with .EXE format? The format is irrelevant. You need a version of WSA capable of running on you platform, and using, e.g., elf instea

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/24/2007 at 07:22 PM, Kenneth E Tomiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Define better. When the z/OS system does not have the FTP server >running then IND$FILE is better. No; you only need an FTP server on one end, not on both. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysPro

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/24/2007 at 06:33 PM, David Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > The IND$FILE for the GET or PUT operation did not specify CRLF as a >parameter. Can someone tell me what I did wrong, You didn't do a binary file transfer. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread Dave Salt
On Fri, 25 May 2007 17:52:03 +, Dave Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >According to the documentation, WSA works with Windows, AIX, OS/2, Solaris... > From: Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is that both Solaris/SPARC and Solaris i86? I couldn't say; I've personally only used the WSA with

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 25 May 2007 17:52:03 +, Dave Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >According to the documentation, WSA works with Windows, AIX, OS/2, Solaris > Is that both Solaris/SPARC and Solaris i86? Open Source rules! >and HP UX. For workstations that don't support .EXE, I recommend dropping >them

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 25 May 2007 17:52:03 +, Dave Salt wrote: >According to the documentation, WSA works with Windows, AIX, OS/2, Solaris >and HP UX. I didn't look at the documentation. I looked at the download panel for the WSA on a z/OS 1.8 system. There is no longer an OS/2 version. I agree with

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread Rick Fochtman
This is probably a dumb suggestion, but why don't you just XMIT the file to a sequential dataset on mainframe disk, download it to PC, upload to the target mainframe then do a RECEIVE of that sequential dataset? Burning a CD-ROM or DVD are optional steps, as is ZIP'ing the file. --

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread Dave Salt
>I agree; TRANSMIT is a great way to pack a PDS into a sequential file. But >when it comes to transferring files to or from a PC, whether they are >sequential (including transmit format) or individual members of a PDS, I >much prefer the ISPF Workstation Agent (WSA.EXE) over FTP or IND$FILE. F

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:35 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back > again...not successful > >

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 25 May 2007 09:39:16 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> >And what do you recommend for a "workstation" incapable of dealing with >.EXE format? Are there other formats of WSA? Open source? Not very interesting ones. AIX, Solaris and HP UX versions. There *was* an OS/2 version. -- Tom Ma

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 25 May 2007 00:58:32 +, Dave Salt wrote: >>From: Kenneth E Tomiak >>I have used both IEBCOPY and TRANSMIT format. I switched to TRANSMIT >>because there are pc applications that can read it. > How do you round-trip and reconstitute an IEBCOPY-unloaded PDS on z/OS? I know it's possible;

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-24 Thread Dave Salt
From: Kenneth E Tomiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have used both IEBCOPY and TRANSMIT format. I switched to TRANSMIT because there are pc applications that can read it. I agree; TRANSMIT is a great way to pack a PDS into a sequential file. But when it comes to transferring files to or from a PC, whe

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-24 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Define better. When the z/OS system does not have the FTP server running then IND$FILE is better. Either way, you still need to know all of the parameters for transferring files. data type - binary for non-text files- think the output from TRANSMIT or your iebcopy one member (non load module) -

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 24 May 2007 18:33:38 -0500, David Day wrote: >I used IEBCOPY to create a sequentail backup of an ISPF panel library. I > then used IND$FILE to transfer the dataset to my PC. ... > > The IND$FILE for the GET or PUT operation did not specify CRLF as a > parameter. Can someone te

Re: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-24 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
TECTED] On > Behalf Of David Day > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 5:34 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful > > I used IEBCOPY to create a sequentail backup of an ISPF panel > library. I then used IND$FILE to

IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not successful

2007-05-24 Thread David Day
I used IEBCOPY to create a sequentail backup of an ISPF panel library. I then used IND$FILE to transfer the dataset to my PC. Thought I'd test the backup out by transferring back to the mainframe, and got the following when I tried to use IEBCOPY to load the members back. STEP1COPY