On Tue, 11 May 2010 13:31:25 +0100, Sam Siegel wrote:
>
>Using current z/OS technology, just imaging the questions that would
>stream across this forum if there were 10,000,000 system programers
>and z/OS installations. And everyone had unrestricted access to
>IBMUSER.
>
In Mac OS X, only users au
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht
wrote:
> Timothy Sipples wrote:
>>Of course, I read those on-screen T&Cs very carefully and reviewed them
> with a lawyer
>
> I can't remember what software did this, but it requires you to SCROLL down
> the whole thing up to the very last
I have done more then one migration from z/OS where the version differences
were more then 3-4.
Order a starter system and do the installation seperate from the other
volumes (no disk sharing)
Pay special attention to security (racf), Open Edition and SMS. When
migrating to the new release make a n
Timothy Sipples wrote:
>Of course, I read those on-screen T&Cs very carefully and reviewed them
with a lawyer
I can't remember what software did this, but it requires you to SCROLL down
the whole thing up to the very last line, then the 'Ok' is highlighted.
Hope your lawyer did that for fre
Just to reinforce this point, somehow my Mac today popped up a message box
asking me to agree to new Apple iTunes terms and conditions associated with
a point release update. Of course, I read those on-screen T&Cs very
carefully and reviewed them with a lawyer No, strike that. After
(blindly) c
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In
,
on 05/07/2010
at 10:36 AM, Pat Mihalec said:
I am running z/OS 1.4 and think of just jumping to z/OS 1.11, if they
finally let me upgrade the software.
Unless you have the tapes for intermediate releases in house, you have
no choice but to mak
I had not thought about it that way but you're absolutely right.
I have always tried to make it known that you didn't HAVE to upgrade within
IBM's 3 release rules, but it had completely escaped me how common it is for
the rest of the platforms.
Brian
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I may have pointed this out before, but, for perspective (and
oversimplifying only slightly) the entire rest of the IT world makes big OS
jumps *every* time they upgrade. The rigorous, vendor-supported
coexistence/fallback regimes available with z/OS release N to release N+1
or N+2 (and its middlew
In
,
on 05/07/2010
at 10:36 AM, Pat Mihalec said:
>I am running z/OS 1.4 and think of just jumping to z/OS 1.11, if they
> finally let me upgrade the software.
Unless you have the tapes for intermediate releases in house, you have
no choice but to make the big jump. Put the necessary work in
Yeahhh that must be the reason.
Now why didn't I think of that ?.
Shane ...
On Sun, May 9th, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Brian Westerman wrote:
> I guess I'm just getting mellow. ;)
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I'm surprised it took Brian so long to respond; he's constantly berating us
that such "non (IBM)
sanctioned" upgrades are fine if handled sensibly.
Just don't screw it up - guess whose private parts will be on the chopping
block.
Can't really blame customers for being spooked about N+2.
Shane
Hi,
There is absolutely no reason to make multiple jumps, especially when you
can keep the environments contained as you had originally pointed out. It's
a big jump, but no matter which point you picked for your jump point, it
would still be a large undertaking. The good news is that it's been d
W dniu 2010-05-07 17:36, Pat Mihalec pisze:
I am running z/OS 1.4 and think of just jumping to z/OS 1.11, if they
finally let me upgrade the software.
I was wondering if anyone out there thinks this is a real bad idea. I can
isolate a test Lpar and DASD volumes to do this.
I would like some feed
>...and did we not go from 32 bit to 64 bit addressing with 1.7...
I thought bi-modal capability went out with 1.6.
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...and did we not go from 32 bit to 64 bit addressing with 1.7...
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Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 10:36 AM
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Subject: Re: Migrating from z/OS V1.4 to z/OS
With proper planning and execution, there should be no more issues
w/z/OS1.4 to z/OS 1.11 than any other OS upgrade,
however there are so many changes in the interim (approx 6 years worth),
some of which may not be compatible w/each other, that it would be a
very good thing to peruse the migration
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Subject: Re: Migrating from z/OS V1.4 to z/OS V1.11
I am running z/OS 1.4 and think of just jumping to z/OS 1.11, if they
finally let me upgrade the softw
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Re: Migrating from z/OS V1.4 to z/OS V1.11
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Read *ALL* of the migration guide&#
Read *ALL* of the migration guide's VERY VERY carefully!!
That is a big jump and you *may* have a lot of work to do on your
existing system to get everything ready for this.
Some of that work may have to be done at conversion time.
Good Luck!
I am running z/OS 1.4 and think of just jumping to
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From:
"Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)"
To:
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Date:
03/12/2010 07:43 AM
Subject:
Re: Migrating from z/OS V1.4 to z/OS
In , on 03/09/2010
at 08:10 AM, Steve Dover said:
>After reading a thread from May and June of 2007 (started I believe by
>John Matson), can I use the V1.4 OS to drive the install of the V1.11 OS
>on the new machine?
You're facing several issues. You'll need a new SMP/E for sure. IBM claims
There is no need to run olde system on new CPC or vice versa.
It is possible to install new system on new CPC using COD (driver system
from IBM). The only requirement is to connect existing DASD box to the
new CPC.
The rest is IMHO piece of cake. Or rather: not much harder than regular
supporte
Hi,
You can convert directly from z/OS 1.4 to 1.11, and I have done it several
times so far since September, but the problem for you is the platforms you
are dealing with. There is a chart (which is not 100% correct, but very
close) at
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/support/zos_server_sup
Steve. My suggestions would be:
1) Get a "driving system" from IBM, I believe it is free. Install it,
takes only 1 or 2 packs of 3390-9. Logon and do your serverpac from
there. This assumes you have a sandbox lpar. This is really much less
hassle than it looks at first. Really all you are
In a message dated 3/9/2010 12:59:40 P.M. Central Standard Time,
pinnc...@rochester.rr.com writes:
paths. I've done an OS/390 V2R10 to z/OS V1R8 upgrade. Let me know if
you
have any questions or concerns.
>>
Might be useful to write a bid. We want the following:
1)Software upgrade to
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Dover"
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:10 AM
Subject: Migrating from z/OS V1.4 to z/OS V1.11
I am hoping for some 'guidance' from the experience on this site. I am
working
at one of those &#x
Steve Dover wrote:
I am hoping for some 'guidance' from the experience on this site. I am working
at one of those 'small shops' that have been discussed on here recently. In or
around 2000, installed 7060-H70 (2 cps, 2 GB storage). When I started here
(the first time) had just finished upgra
Steve,
Your story is a familiar one. :)
Unless someone on this list has actually done a 1.11 install with a 1.4 system,
you're not likely to get a definitive answer. It's basically a crap shoot, you
have a 50/50 shot of it working. The problem areas will likely be SMP/E and the
installation d
I can't answer about the process, but one area to keep an eye on is the
definition of Key 8 storage, which IBM have been parameter controlling since
1.8. You will want to consider the option ALLOWUSERKEYCSA in your
YS1.PARMLIB(DIAGxx), whichdefaults to NO. This might cause some problems for
certain
I am hoping for some 'guidance' from the experience on this site. I am working
at one of those 'small shops' that have been discussed on here recently. In or
around 2000, installed 7060-H70 (2 cps, 2 GB storage). When I started here
(the first time) had just finished upgrade to OS/390 V2.9.
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