Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/12/2008 at 04:16 PM, Pat Mihalec [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that mean you no longer have to pay for your software product maintenance licenses? There's no way to answer that without seeing both

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/13/2008 at 09:44 AM, Pat Mihalec [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I know this but I needed it from someone else to show the current director. He has not mainframe experience, his background is Windows. The situation is the same with windoze; you need to read the licensing

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-14 Thread Kelman, Tom
- Posted by Paul Mihalec - I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that mean you no longer have to pay for your software product maintenance licenses? - Posted by Steve Thompson - It depends. If your contract says that your equipment, operations

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pat Mihalec I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that mean you no longer have to pay for your software product maintenance licenses? Not at all. You'll continue to pay either directly

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Ron Wells
Oh---Only knows Windows Ummman---would really love to comment on this one...lol...but may cause a stir ... -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be

Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: 13 Februarie 2008 04:17 nm To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing Herbie, Do you have a link

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Dave Thorn
and delete this e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Falcone Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on Out Sourcing Better to check the agreement very

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Patrick Falcone
Better to check the agreement very thoroughly. I would want to know, before signing, what is covered *after* the contract has been signed. You might be surprised at what you'll be paying for a few weeks down the road after the contract has been signed and you need *x* to be investigated,

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Pat Mihalec
-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Question on Out Sourcing I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that mean you no longer have to pay for your software product maintenance licenses? Of course the licence still has to be paid for. You can either transfer

OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on Out Sourcing Oh---Only knows Windows Ummman---would really love to comment on this one...lol...but may cause a stir ... -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential

Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Staller, Allan
Herbie, Do you have a link for that report? snip I just read page 10 of the February edition of Linux Format where the claim is made that OpenSolaris was successfully ported to a System z IBM mainframe that is co-owned by Sun and Sine Nomine in Virginia USA. /snip

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Mihalec Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on Out Sourcing I know this but I needed it from someone else to show the current director

Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Rich Smrcina
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing Do you have a link for that report? -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com

Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
.. Was Question on Out Sourcing I understand from sources close to the port that it is indeed underway and should be sometime this year. Staller, Allan wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Dalsen, Herbie Sent: Wednesday

Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Staller, Allan
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Dalsen, Herbie Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing Do you have

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Gregory, Gary G
] On Behalf Of Patrick Falcone Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on Out Sourcing Better to check the agreement very thoroughly. I would want to know, before signing, what is covered *after* the contract has been signed. You might be surprised

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Gregory, Gary G
Certain times you can be added to the outsource company's MIPS/site license. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on Out Sourcing

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Scott Rowe
In a word, YES. Dave Thorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/13/2008 11:17 AM With us that stuff is all spelled out in the contract. No surprises later. How can an IT director have only Windows experience? Does that mean my mother could be an IT director? : ) CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material

Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Brian Peterson
Oops: David Boyes (I misspelled Mr Boyes name). Brian On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:15:41 -0600, Brian Peterson wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:13:28 -, Van Dalsen, Herbie wrote: (snip) I just read page 10 of the February edition of Linux Format where the claim is made that OpenSolaris was

Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Brian Peterson
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:13:28 -, Van Dalsen, Herbie wrote: (snip) I just read page 10 of the February edition of Linux Format where the claim is made that OpenSolaris was successfully ported to a System z IBM mainframe that is co-owned by Sun and Sine Nomine in Virginia USA. Who would have

Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing Oops: David Boyes (I misspelled Mr Boyes name). Brian On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:15:41 -0600, Brian Peterson wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:13:28 -, Van Dalsen, Herbie wrote: (snip) I just read

Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Van Dalsen, Herbie Very clever of IBM to have I running inside VM... That's another $NNN further before you will have Solaris up and running! ... Unless you already have z/VM and some spare capacity. -jc-

Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Mark Post
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 3:10 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Van Dalsen, Herbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very clever of IBM to have I running inside VM... That's another $NNN further before you will have Solaris up and running! IBM had nothing to do with that decision. Rather it was

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that mean you no longer have to pay for your software product maintenance licenses? Of course the licence still has to be paid for. You can either transfer it to the service provider, or continue paying it yourself. If you've

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-12 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Pat Mihalec wrote: I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that mean you no longer have to pay for your software product maintenance licenses? Pat Mihalec Rush University Medical Center Senior System Programmer (312) 942-8386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are still paying

Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Mihalec Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Question on Out Sourcing I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that mean you

Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-12 Thread Pat Mihalec
I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that mean you no longer have to pay for your software product maintenance licenses? Pat Mihalec Rush University Medical Center Senior System Programmer (312) 942-8386 [EMAIL PROTECTED