Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-21 Thread DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing
Good morning, we are revising central storage due to our systems not paging and, therefore, it's possible that we have installed too central storage. We have seen to find values or some rule of thumb but we don't find anything. At 1991 the recommendation was 300-500pag/sec of total paging but no

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-21 Thread Hal Merritt
. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate Good morning, we are revising central

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-21 Thread Shane Ginnane
Mmmm - that recommendation would have been from the days when we all had expanded. You really wouldn't want to try and sustain that rate to round brown spinning stuff. It's good these days, but as Hal said, it's slow. Zero is a good target. As usual it's horses for courses - some envir

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-22 Thread Avram Friedman
Most OS performance rules of thumb were developed for TSO and simple batch workloads where each address space (region) served a single 'user' and did no async i/o or any self directed, non os service task management. To the extent that workloads have shifted to to multi user address spaces that of

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-22 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi, In a related topic does anyone have thoughts or recent references to settings for MCCAFCTH in PARMLIB IEAOPTxx? I currently use MCCAFCTH=(5000,6000), on my OLTP production partitions with 32M and very large AFQ (no paging) and still have MCCAFCTH=(2000,2500), for my test and development parti

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:14:01 -0500, Knutson, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, > >In a related topic does anyone have thoughts or recent references to >settings for MCCAFCTH in PARMLIB IEAOPTxx? > >I currently use MCCAFCTH=(5000,6000), on my OLTP production partitions >with 32M and very large AF

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-22 Thread Gerhard Adam
>Most OS performance rules of thumb were developed for TSO and simple batch workloads where each address space (region) served a single 'user' and did no >async i/o or any self directed, non os service task management. > >To the extent that workloads have shifted to to multi user address spaces tha

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-23 Thread Christian Blesa
Hi folks!! Thanks a lot for your answers. I'm learning a lot with you. At DB2-list (http://www.idugdb2-l.org/archives/db2-l.html) I found following discussion: ** I read the value 100 in a Chuck Hoover's article: 'If the sum of

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-23 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Christian Blesa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Hi folks!! > > Thanks a lot for your answers. I'm learning a lot with you. > > At DB2-list (http://www.idugdb2-l.org/archives/db2-l.html) I found > following discussion: > >

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-23 Thread Mark Zelden
The ROTs are fine (old and current), but there is really only one thing that matters and you may be paging, or you may not be Are you meeting your SLAs? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America and Farmers Insurance Group mailto: [EMAIL PROT

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-28 Thread DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:33:47 -0600, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The ROTs are fine (old and current), but there is really only one >thing that matters and you may be paging, or you may not be > >Are you meeting your SLAs? > >Mark Hello Mark, of course, to meet SLAs is the first an

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-29 Thread Avram Friedman
Chr. Have you done some paper and pencil storage estimates On a LPAR assume 2 gig for each of Z/os OMVS Each DB2 subsystem Each IMS subsystem Each MQ subsystem Each CICS subsystem 5 Batch address spaces 20 TSO users If you have 14 gig available to an LPAR and one each of the above items you may b