Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-05-12 Thread Shaffer, Terri E
3467 Cell: # 412-519-2592 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach) Paul: AT one place where I worked

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-05-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4dc13f61.4090...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 05/04/2011 at 01:58 PM, "R.S." said: >3. Last, but not least: sometimes ACCEPT is simply required. >Sometimes a product reads from DLIB libraries. Normally that's from a macro library and including MTS in SYSLIB takes care of it. -- Shmuel

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-05-04 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-04-30 06:47, Linda Mooney pisze: As can be seen from the replies, there are different approaches for handling the PTS. In my shop, when a z/OS release is installed, the PTS is placed on a volume where it will have plenty of room. For the life of the install, PTFs are not purged f

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-05-04 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-04-29 16:45, Mark Zelden pisze: [...] I should tell you to RTFM, but I like you. :-) It means to "consider all the specified zones when doing the REJECT" - so it is an "AND" condition. If only one zone was specified, it would only look at that one zone and could delete a PTF from

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-05-01 Thread Ed Gould
From: Steve Horein To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sat, April 30, 2011 4:19:19 PM Subject: Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach) I had thought the same about the IMS guy who had left years ago. Needing to put in a PTF on IMS for an upcoming OS upgrade, I

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-05-01 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 23:53 -0500 on 04/29/2011, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach): On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 00:31:12 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: >My favorite broken/bad design is the way RESTORE works. If you need/want to RESTORE a SYSMOD, SMPE restores that SYS

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-04-30 Thread Steve Horein
I had thought the same about the IMS guy who had left years ago. Needing to put in a PTF on IMS for an upcoming OS upgrade, I was mildly surprised to find this: "Use SMP/E to apply and accept IMS™ maintenance before an IMS system definition. All IMS system definitions use the IMS SMP/E *distribut

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-04-30 Thread Ed Gould
different backout than what we had put on. I gave up trying to understand it. From: Paul Gilmartin To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sat, April 30, 2011 2:47:24 PM Subject: Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach) On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:41:10 -0700, Di

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-04-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:41:10 -0700, Dick Bond wrote: >*Exactly! *This is the correct way of doing RSU maintenance upgrades. >It also solves some of the objections to the way RESTORE works as well. >There are those who say they never ACCEPT maintenance which will cause a lot >of problems which

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-04-30 Thread Dick Bond
is works for us. > > > > *For ACCEPT, we generally run the ACCEPT of previous service just before > beginning the next maintenance cycle. > * > > > Regards, > > Linda > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Zelden" > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu &

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-04-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 00:31:12 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: >At 18:08 -0500 on 04/29/2011, Rick Fochtman wrote about Re: SMPPTS >run out of Space (another approach): > >>I'm sure the SMP/E Team would appreciate ny suggestions you might have. > >They have proven to

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-04-29 Thread Linda Mooney
.edu Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 7:45:39 AM Subject: Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach) On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:25:36 +0200, R.S. wrote: >W dniu 2011-04-29 15:18, Mark Zelden pisze: >> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:30:59 +0530, saurabh khandelwal >>  wrote: >> >>

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-04-29 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 18:08 -0500 on 04/29/2011, Rick Fochtman wrote about Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach): I'm sure the SMP/E Team would appreciate ny suggestions you might have. They have proven to be unwilling to fix a poor/broken design in the past so I doubt they would be willing t

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-04-29 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- Saurabh, One more thing: we haven't discussed yet why your PTS is so big. PTS is container for PTFs. It contains all the PTF your RECEIVED and APPLIED. A PTF can be also ACCEPTed. There are different schools when to ac

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-04-29 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:25:36 +0200, R.S. wrote: >W dniu 2011-04-29 15:18, Mark Zelden pisze: >> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:30:59 +0530, saurabh khandelwal >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> Thanks for reply. I will check in my site about old PTF, >>> which can be removed from PTS library and d

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-04-29 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-04-29 15:18, Mark Zelden pisze: On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:30:59 +0530, saurabh khandelwal wrote: Hello, Thanks for reply. I will check in my site about old PTF, which can be removed from PTS library and detail about accepted PTFs. Regards Saurabh Caution: SMP/E opti

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-04-29 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:30:59 +0530, saurabh khandelwal wrote: >Hello, >Thanks for reply. I will check in my site about old PTF, >which can be removed from PTS library and detail about accepted PTFs. > > >Regards >Saurabh > >> Caution: SMP/E option PURGE(YES) is needed for the above.

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-04-29 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello, Thanks for reply. I will check in my site about old PTF, which can be removed from PTS library and detail about accepted PTFs. Regards Saurabh On 4/29/2011 12:00 PM, R.S. wrote: Saurabh, One more thing: we haven't discussed yet why your PTS is so big. PTS is container for P

Re: SMPPTS run out of Space (another approach)

2011-04-28 Thread R.S.
Saurabh, One more thing: we haven't discussed yet why your PTS is so big. PTS is container for PTFs. It contains all the PTF your RECEIVED and APPLIED. A PTF can be also ACCEPTed. There are different schools when to accept and whether to accept. IMHO you should choose any strategy you want and a