Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-27 Thread Rob Wunderlich
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:19:27 -0500, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me that a .PDF should qualify as an unstructured character string of arbitrary length, as far as JES is concerned. Whatever utility we use to copy it could break it up into, e.g., fixed-length records of (say)

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/25/2005 at 07:32 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm not sure that convention, widespread as it is rises to the status of standard. Nor did I say that it did; in fact, I've been at shops where B was a print class, although that breaks some of the IBM

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
that it did; in fact, I've been at shops where B was a print class, although that breaks some of the IBM cataloged procedures. I was referring to: Linkname: Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT? URL: http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0509L=ibm-mainD=1O=DP=160297

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-26 Thread Gibbons, Mark
,BLKSIZE=1000,FILEDATA=BINARY //* //SYSUT2DD SYSOUT=* Good luck, Mark Date:Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:20:28 -0500 From:Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT? Hi, All, We're trying to copy a .PDF document into the JES2 spool (SYSOUT dataset

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/23/2005 at 03:43 PM, Kirk Talman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Used to be any file can be placed in SYSOUT=B and shipped anywhere as a binary image. There's nothing special about SYSOUT=B. By convention, B is typically defined as a punch class, but that just means that

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said: Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 16:39:38 -0300 In [log in to unmask], on 09/23/2005 at 03:43 PM, Kirk Talman [log in to unmask] said: Used to be any file can be placed in SYSOUT=B and shipped anywhere as a binary image. There's

Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-23 Thread Chase, John
Hi, All, We're trying to copy a .PDF document into the JES2 spool (SYSOUT dataset) for later printing, but so far have been unable to suppress the insertion of ANSI carriage-control characters as the first byte of each record. We've tried coding DD SYSOUT=A,DCB=RECFM=FB but that didn't work as

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-23 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT? Hi, All, We're trying to copy a .PDF document

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-23 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chase, John Hi, All, We're trying to copy a .PDF document into the JES2 spool (SYSOUT dataset) for later

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-23 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT? -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-23 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chase, John -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John [ snip ]

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-23 Thread Walt Farrell
On 9/23/2005 10:20 AM, Chase, John wrote: We're trying to copy a .PDF document into the JES2 spool (SYSOUT dataset) for later printing, but so far have been unable to suppress the insertion of ANSI carriage-control characters as the first byte of each record. We've tried coding DD

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-23 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 9/23/2005 9:48:50 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If that's the case, then we'll just have to code an exit (writer?) to strip the cc character when sending the .PDF to a printer. With Info print can use the PDF2AFP transform? If you've got Info

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-23 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 2:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Walt Farrell [ snip ] You cannot copy

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-23 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gray, Larry - Larry A I was not aware of printers understanding the PDF format. Some print driver must convert the PDF into something usable by the printer. I believe AOP can print a PDF, but it converts it to

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-23 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 9/23/2005 1:59:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems that that can't be done if the target is a SYSOUT dataset. Seems like lpr ought to be just the ticket? -- For

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-23 Thread Edwin Philbrook
-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Walt Farrell [ snip ] You cannot copy a .PDF file to SYSOUT, John. You would need to have a PDF reader

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-23 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edwin Philbrook Why not - Advanced PDF2TXT (PDF to Text) free download. Convert PDF to Text ... or PDF2WORD or am I missing the point? We don't want to convert it -- we want to use the spool only to store

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-23 Thread Kirk Talman
Used to be any file can be placed in SYSOUT=B and shipped anywhere as a binary image. If the reader (called a writer) that removes it from the spool knows how to rebuild the records from 80 byte segments, problem solved. This technique used to be used to connect devices such as plotters and

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-23 Thread Ed Gould
On Sep 23, 2005, at 1:29 PM, Gray, Larry - Larry A wrote: --SNIP--- Seems to me that a .PDF should qualify as an unstructured character string of arbitrary length, as far as JES is concerned. Whatever utility we use to copy it could break