Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL

2005-09-07 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Dyck Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL Tnx Greg, I always just ask for a FIN APAR. *System owned is much better then Batch Job owner gone. FIN must *only* be used for an APAR which

Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL

2005-09-06 Thread Greg Dyck
DB2 open PK10031 and close it with the following comment: snip This apar is being closed USE ( user error ). Users should not be using MVS service aid information as a basis for direct commands against storage. The actual reporting of DB2 storage as 'orphaned' is considered an inaccuracy

Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL

2005-09-06 Thread Knutson, Sam
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Dyck Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL DB2 open PK10031 and close it with the following comment: snip This apar

Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL

2005-09-06 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
Subject: Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL DB2 open PK10031 and close it with the following comment: snip This apar is being closed USE ( user error ). Users should not be using MVS service aid information as a basis for direct commands against storage. The actual reporting of DB2 storage

Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL

2005-09-06 Thread Greg Dyck
Tnx Greg, I always just ask for a FIN APAR. *System owned is much better then Batch Job owner gone. FIN must *only* be used for an APAR which IBM is prepared to ship the code via service. Any customer may request a new APAR be opened to ship the fix for a FIN APAR. The only accepable closing

Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL

2005-09-06 Thread Greg Dyck
Is there a reason this cannot be tied to a DB2 address space that will clean it up when it terminates? snip Some of the global storage can be obtained *before* switching to a DB2 owned address space so there is no way to show it owned by DB2 as would be desired. The same issue exists for MQ

VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL

2005-09-05 Thread Roland Schiradin
Status about my Owner Gone project with low prio. Websphere MQ (IBM Hursley) is still working on this. DB2 open PK10031 and close it with the following comment: Various monitor programs and displays, report common storage owned by DB2 as 'orphaned'. This occurs because the MVS service

Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL

2005-08-10 Thread Roland Schiradin
for WMQ is still open but it seem to be same problem (HASN PASN). Awaiting results RRS accept a fin APAR OW57028 and fixed it in z/OS R5. Non IBM products StorageTek V5. Verify with new version At least VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL should be free of OD Owner Gone storage even it`s not a really orpan

Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL

2005-07-25 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
An: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL Is OG orphaned storage (Memory leak) or still owned by someone? The owner is always the owner assigned when the storage was obtained. OG is far from always being orphaned. It just might be misclassified. If you get storage

Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL

2005-07-18 Thread Peter Relson
Is OG orphaned storage (Memory leak) or still owned by someone? The owner is always the owner assigned when the storage was obtained. OG is far from always being orphaned. It just might be misclassified. If you get storage and terminate and expect to use that storage later then you ought to be

Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL

2005-07-17 Thread Craddock, Chris
Is OG orphaned storage (Memory leak) or still owned by someone? Our list of OG storage contains a lot of entries and I believe they are still owned by someone. Owner Gone might be a storage leak, or it might be storage that contains code, data, control blocks yada yada, for products that

Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL

2005-07-17 Thread Shane Ginnane
CC said; That's a good reason not to use the FREEMAIN option of products (like ours and Tivoli/Candle) that offer a point and shoot shortcut to your next unplanned IPL. Had a junior do that once - even got a warning message that the storage had changed and did he *REALLY* want to still delete

Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL

2005-07-17 Thread john gilmore
Since Shane's junior did in fact own up to his sins, it was appropriate not to use thumb screws on that occasion. About certain ISVs who use single short-lived ASs to start subsystems, I'm more ambivalent; maybe thumb screws would be appropriate for them. The 'wasted' ASIDs are now

Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL

2005-07-17 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von john gilmore Gesendet: Montag, 18. Juli 2005 01:01 An: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL Since Shane's junior did in fact own up to his sins, it was appropriate not to use thumb screws on that occasion. About certain ISVs who use single

VSMLIST OWNCOMM DETAIL

2005-07-16 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
Is OG orphaned storage (Memory leak) or still owned by someone? Our list of OG storage contains a lot of entries and I believe they are still owned by someone. How did you handle them? Did you ask the ISV or IBM about them? I've seen a large for RRS and IBM raise FIN APAR OW57028. I now have