Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-09-01 Thread Frank Swarbrick
 Tom Ross (IBM COBOL development) has indicated that the next version of Enterprise COBOL will use the same backend as C/C++ and PL/I. > > From: John McKown >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2012 2:26 PM >Subject: Re: The IBM zEnterpr

Re: DFDSS

2012-09-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:46:36 -0400, Doug wrote: >Gill Agreed! >HFS/zFS With DFDSS should be made to honor user allocation specifications >for data set restore. > No. I'll go further than that. It should allocate as the primary extent the largest available eligible extent. It should allocate as t

Re: DFDSS

2012-09-01 Thread Doug
Gill Agreed! HFS/zFS With DFDSS should be made to honor user allocation specifications for data set restore. Typical work around is to reallocate and manually copy the zFS. Last PMR with IBM on this topic just gave me the run around. So, that is why I am asking this brain trust the question. Se

iSeries

2012-09-01 Thread zMan
Does IBM know about this: http://www.goodbed.com/mattress-line/serta-iseries/ Surely iSeries was trademarked?! Of course, Monster Cable has/had a "zseries" at the same time that IBM did. They owned the domain zseries.com, although they never used it (it seems to be owned but not in use by a squatt

Re: DFDSS

2012-09-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 12:20:19 -0400, Doug wrote: >Very large multi volume zFS has in the past, failed allocation trying to >allocate the primary extent which was larger than the physical volume. Mainly >curious what a good work-around would be. Does not happen often. > Is DFDSS quite so stupid th

Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-09-01 Thread Scott Ford
Sorry, what I was trying say was that Java is a slow performer and C of Z/os outside Unix System Services is awkward based on examples I have seen and used. Where COBOL and Assembler don't suffer from these inadequacies. The are more seasoned languages Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Sep 1

Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-09-01 Thread Scott Ford
John, With what heard about the Java performance hit, it's relativity a slow performer. What I see of C it's ok but, the documentation, good examples are lacking. The data types especial strings with z/os bring different than UnixI know these languages are evolving, my comments are negative

Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-09-01 Thread John McKown
IIRC, both C and PL/I use the same back end code generator, while COBOL does its own thing. That may be why COBOL seems to stay behind them. On Sep 1, 2012 2:49 PM, "zMan" wrote: > Indeed. The lack of improvements for EC12 may simply reflect where the > COBOL folks are in their release cycle -- m

Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-09-01 Thread zMan
Indeed. The lack of improvements for EC12 may simply reflect where the COBOL folks are in their release cycle -- maybe they missed the window, and it's coming later. Or not. On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Scott Ford wrote: > Clark, > > I seriously doubt COBOL is on a deathbed considering how ja

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-09-01 Thread Scott Ford
Clark, I seriously doubt COBOL is on a deathbed considering how java performs on a z/os. Secondly, a serious amount of banking is on legacy machines in COBOL. Banks aren't going to convert if it costs more money Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Aug 31, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Clark Morris wrote:

Re: DFDSS

2012-09-01 Thread Mike Schwab
Since dataset can have 16 (or 123) extents on a volume (or another limit like 64K tracks), I like to recommend 1/16 or (1/123) of the volume's capacity as the primary and secondary allocation amount. If an additional extent is added next to the last extent, the space is added to the previous exten

Re: DFDSS

2012-09-01 Thread Doug
Very large multi volume zFS has in the past, failed allocation trying to allocate the primary extent which was larger than the physical volume. Mainly curious what a good work-around would be. Does not happen often. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2012, at 10:50, "Jousma, David" wrote: > Just

Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-01 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) writes: > No, with *one* blade cabinet of Dell+Windows. HW cost comparable to > spare HMC and two OSA cards. as mentioned before: max. configured z196 with 80 processors is rated at 50BIPs and goes for $28M ($350,000/processor, $560,000/BIPS, 624MIPS/processo

Re: Formatting CEEMGET results

2012-09-01 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I have only the basics so far: get_msg  call  ceemget,(cond,msg,msgptr,fc),vl,mf=(e,callprms)   cli   fc_sev,1  bad fc if sev > 1   jh    badmsgfc  exec  cics write operator text(msg) textlength(l'msg)      

Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-01 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-09-01 00:33, Ken Hume, IBM pisze: Wow I took some programming classes when I was there in late 70's early 80's. What was it replaced with? 656,445,689,854,332 AIX servers? No, with *one* blade cabinet of Dell+Windows. HW cost comparable to spare HMC and two OSA cards. --