Re: Is it possible to capture a console cancel command from an STC in COBOL?

2012-09-10 Thread Scott Ford
Yeah, your right , sorry been a week Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Sep 10, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > We went around on this a couple of weeks ago. I think the answer was "only > indirectly with a STAE or ESTAE" (which will in turn potentially make LE > unhappy). > > Charle

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-10 Thread Timothy Sipples1
Bruno Sugliani writes: >I do not believe anyone here would run production on a single >engine box or run Dev and Test on that single engine machine. Almost everyone here would. These are mainframes, with PR/SM and LPARs proven to Common Criteria EAL5+ certification standards. Regardless of the ope

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:04:53 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > >If you know that your target program uses only the TIME macro, and >that it's the default (SVC) form, which is commonly true of >traditional application programs, then you could set up SVC Screening >to catch those TIMEs, and edit the resul

Re: UNABLE TO DO A FULL VOLUME RESTORE - DFDSS

2012-09-10 Thread Ron Hawkins
John, Mate, when you restore a volume with COPYVOLID, and there is a volume online with the same volser, the restored volume will be taken offline as described elsewhere in this thread. Just like when you try to vary a duplicate volser online, the original volume is unaffected by the restore, var

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 September 2012 12:03, Charles Mills wrote: > Is there a technique, statement or utility that will cause a program or > jobstep to "see" a different timezone? I recall you could do this in VSE. I > looked at the CBT tape and did not find anything. Is there a programming > technique that would

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:19:12 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: >At 09:03 -0700 on 09/10/2012, Charles Mills wrote about Possible to >run a jobstep with a different timezone?: > >>What do shops do that have LPARs that serve users in multiple time zones > >They tell the ZOS that runs in the LPAR wha

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 09:03 -0700 on 09/10/2012, Charles Mills wrote about Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?: What do shops do that have LPARs that serve users in multiple time zones They tell the ZOS that runs in the LPAR what TimeZone it is to assume it is in. IOW: All LPARs have their clo

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-10 Thread Clark Morris
On 10 Sep 2012 08:11:00 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Clark Morris is entitled to have and to express his [not at all >disinterested] views. > >His question > > >Does i-o on system z take less cpu and memory resource than i-o on >Intel servers?, p servers? > > >is, however, challengi

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:20:46 -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote: >Ways other than STCK/STCKE for getting time involve an SVC, or calling a >system service, or calling a subsystem service (CICS), where >front-ending the service is an obvious approach -- probably why the >question was raised specifically on

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-10 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
oops, late 80s is 25yrs ago ... not 35yrs ... finger slip. in the 80s, it was recognized that the half-duplex channel paradigm (not just ibm mainframe) ... introduced a lot of end-to-end latency overhead chatter. there were several serial, asynchronous efforts launched in the late 80s ... all incl

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-10 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
glen herrmannsfeldt writes: > For unix/dos/windows file systems, though, there needs to be a disk > cache where FBA blocks are brought into memory and the appropriate > bytes copied to user space. Now, the caching ability of that likely > helps much of the time, but it isn't so different from what

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Ways other than STCK/STCKE for getting time involve an SVC, or calling a system service, or calling a subsystem service (CICS), where front-ending the service is an obvious approach -- probably why the question was raised specifically on how a hardware instruction like STCK could be handled whe

Is it possible to capture a console cancel command from an STC in COBOL?

2012-09-10 Thread Charles Mills
We went around on this a couple of weeks ago. I think the answer was "only indirectly with a STAE or ESTAE" (which will in turn potentially make LE unhappy). Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Mond

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Charles Mills
Then don't! :-) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone? I don't mean to

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Scott Ford
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but is there a way in LE COBOL to capture a 'C x' operator command, where x is a STC. Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Sep 10, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Ed Finnell wrote: > Back in the olden days programmers would pass a 'DATE' parm. If it was > omitted

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Ed Finnell
Back in the olden days programmers would pass a 'DATE' parm. If it was omitted they would issue a WTOR for Enter Date: One of the weekend operators did- DA:TE:MF So much for edit checksNSF was not amused to find their annual funding report formatted in this manner! In a message dated

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Charles Mills
Yow! Necessary but not sufficient. You would need to catch the TIME macro as well, and the various HLL library calls. I'm sorry I asked :-( Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Monday, Septembe

Hogan?

2012-09-10 Thread Phil Smith
Anyone on this list have Hogan experience? I can spell it, that's about it - but I have some VERY basic questions. Please contact me off-list if you'd be willing to exchange a couple of emails about it. I'll buy you a beer at SCIDS... -- ...phsiii Phil Smith III p...@voltage.com

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Gibney, Dave
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 1:29 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone? > > > Which implies to m

Re: Anyone know how to copy a PDS directory as a flat file?

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 08:19:53 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > >BTW, I saw a quote from an earlier message, but not the message >itself, talking about reading directory blocks from a PDSE. For the >record, those are not the actual PDSE directory blocks[1][2] but fake >blocks made to look like

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Charles Mills
> Which implies to me that it offsets GMT as well as local time, likely > something the OP, who ever he is, does not desire. The OP thinks he would be good either way, but that local time is what he really needs changed. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [m

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:06:17 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: > >The process intercepts teh STCK instruction. Not sure if that is something >you want to do. > Which implies to me that it offsets GMT as well as local time, likely something the OP, who ever he is, does not desire. Useful, however,

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Charles Mills
Good idea. My "target" *might* be an LE program and *might* honor TZ -- I don't know. I will run a test. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 11:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@L

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread Bill Fairchild
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Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Charles - I believe you may be able to use some of the LE parms to set a TZ= variable. (Not tested here as we don't run systems on multiple timezones). Look at the settings / overrides for LE for more information Jerry Whitteridge Lead Systems Programmer Safeway Inc. 925 951 4184 If you feel in

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:39:50 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Thanks. > >http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/hourglass/features/ ... or ATF, CA Date Simulator, Simulate 2000, SIM-Date, SoftDate, Xpediter/Xchange, ... http://www.google.com/search?q=date+simulation+y2k+z/os > >I'd still be bette

Re: IBMLINK down?

2012-09-10 Thread Thomas Conley
On 9/10/2012 12:24 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:34:33 +, Jousma, David wrote: I was able to get to SR via this link: http://www.ibm.com/support/servicerequest/ That is the SR link. SR is fine. When I selected passport advantage from there I get the same "You don't

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-10 Thread John Gilmore
Lynn's most recent response is unsatisfactory, in substance evasive. Let us for the sake of the argument stipulate, though this is not usually the case, that some "non-mainframe server" can perform some single I/O operation faster than some mainframe. It turns out that this stipulation does not m

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread Gibney, Dave
We have Syncsort, but other than that I did what you describe years ago and most x37 abends flat out disappeared. Set the default to extended/striped/multivolume, set the space allocations in the DATACLAS(s) to "lots" with rlse. Set up a DATACLAS without extended, etc. for the rare case that ca

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Charles Mills
Sounds exciting! (Exciting is not generally a good thing in the mainframe world LOL.) Thanks again, Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 11:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTS

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
Charles, The process intercepts teh STCK instruction. Not sure if that is something you want to do. Lizette > >Thanks. > >http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/hourglass/features/ > >I'd still be better off politically with a "hack" solution than a vendor >product (even vendor = IBM). > >

Re: Automated Service Delivery Certificate

2012-09-10 Thread Chicklon, Thomas
For your own sanity, set this up in a batch job, instead of executing the commands online in TSO. I own security on my TECH sandbox systems, meaning I get to replace each SMPE user's certificate once a year. Same process every year, they get a new cert and sent to me, I upload, replacing the sam

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread Greg Shirey
Another limitation along the same lines is doing sorts with VSAM files as input. DFSORT queries the catalog for the data set statistics which "may be incorrect" (especially if the file has been open a long time to CICS) and can wind up not allocating sufficient sort work data sets. FWIW, G

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread Skip Robinson
As I discovered a few months ago--and discussed here--you must not change the default of VIO=NO, i.e. do not specify VIO=YES. Even if your SMS rules redirect VIO to real DASD as ours did, DFSORT takes the *possibility* of actual VIO to mean that only traditional <=64K track data sets can be used

Re: z/OS 1.13 and Product Called Astute

2012-09-10 Thread Avram Friedman
The product is supported by Advanced Software Technologies company ltd Here is a link to there web site http://www.astcoltd.com/products.htm On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 07:07:38 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: >Paul, > >You may need to go to the vendor for this issue. Who supports Astute - what >vendo

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks. http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/hourglass/features/ I'd still be better off politically with a "hack" solution than a vendor product (even vendor = IBM). Have not yet looked but I wonder where in z/OS the offset is stored. I suspect it is in a system-wide data area, not region

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-10 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) writes: > Well, all the below is interesting history (as usual), but I'm > interested in what you believe is true today regarding your > statement above. ("I've claimed ..." : do you still claim that? > What, in your opinion, is John Gilmore's stand: true o

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread Frank Swarbrick
My personal philosophy is that computers are better than humans, in general, dealing with these kinds of things. In any case, here are our DFSORT customizations in our ICEPRMxx member: JCL      DYNALOC=(SYSDA,12)    DYNAUTO=YES       MSGDDN=SYSOUT     PARMDDN=DFSPARM

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-10 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 9/10/2012 at 10:31 AM, Clark Morris wrote: > On 4 Sep 2012 08:12:48 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: > > On 9/3/2012 at 05:05 PM, Richard Hintz wrote: >>> Do you have something or can point me to something that shows comparative >>> metrics for these, especially: >>> --po

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
Look at the product Hourglass. It was used for Y2K but allows any application on a mainframe (TSO, CICS, DB2, Batch, etc) to use any time for that one job/task. It belonged to Princeton Softech. However I believe that IBM purchased it Lizette > On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:03:28 -0700, Charles Mil

Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:03:28 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Is there a technique, statement or utility that will cause a program or >jobstep to "see" a different timezone? I recall you could do this in VSE. I >looked at the CBT tape and did not find anything. Is there a programming >technique that w

Re: IBMLINK down?

2012-09-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:34:33 +, Jousma, David wrote: >I was able to get to SR via this link: >http://www.ibm.com/support/servicerequest/ > That is the SR link. SR is fine. When I selected passport advantage from there I get the same "You don't have permission..." error. Or is there an

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-10 Thread Steve Comstock
On 9/10/2012 10:14 AM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: jwgli...@gmail.com (John Gilmore) writes: The answer to this question is yes. z/Architecture channel-based I/O is very different from that used by, for example, Intel servers. In particular it uses many fewer cp[u] cycles, and its permits many

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-10 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
jwgli...@gmail.com (John Gilmore) writes: > The answer to this question is yes. z/Architecture channel-based I/O > is very different from that used by, for example, Intel servers. In > particular it uses many fewer cp[u] cycles, and its permits many > independent I/O operations to be executed con

Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?

2012-09-10 Thread Charles Mills
Is there a technique, statement or utility that will cause a program or jobstep to "see" a different timezone? I recall you could do this in VSE. I looked at the CBT tape and did not find anything. Is there a programming technique that would work? The politics are such that writing code is a more a

1600BPI tapes

2012-09-10 Thread Peter Sylvester
Hello, I am looking for someone who might be able to read a 1600BPI tape. preference in Europe and Norway. There might be chance to recover the source code of the oldest OO language system:http://www.edelweb.fr/Simula/ Any help is appreciated, please answer directly to me. peter.sylves.

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-10 Thread John Gilmore
Clark Morris is entitled to have and to express his [not at all disinterested] views. His question Does i-o on system z take less cpu and memory resource than i-o on Intel servers?, p servers? is, however, challenging to this entitlement. The answer to this question is yes. z/Architecture ch

Re: Anyone know how to copy a PDS directory as a flat file?

2012-09-10 Thread John Gilmore
Paul Gilmartin's point---that consistent values among DDLIST, DESERV, and BLDL outputs is desirable---is important. Its importance would indeed be hard to exaggerate. Moreover, the time for jibbing at mixed-case values in reporting contexts is long past. They are not, as they should be, usable e

Re: IBMLINK down?

2012-09-10 Thread Jousma, David
I was able to get to SR via this link: http://www.ibm.com/support/servicerequest/ _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616

Re: IBMLINK down?

2012-09-10 Thread Eatherly, John D
I keep trying and get in after a while. John -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 9:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBMLINK down? It would seem so. I g

Re: IBMLINK down?

2012-09-10 Thread Lee, Seung-Cheol
It is now working back on my workstation. It happened this early morning though. SC lee -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 10:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subj

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-10 Thread Clark Morris
On 4 Sep 2012 08:12:48 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On 9/3/2012 at 05:05 PM, Richard Hintz wrote: >> Do you have something or can point me to something that shows comparative >> metrics for these, especially: >> --power/cooling >> --floor space >> --people >> --networking har

Re: IBMLINK down?

2012-09-10 Thread Richards, Robert B.
It would seem so. I got the exact same message. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 10:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBMLINK down? Forbidden You don't have

IBMLINK down?

2012-09-10 Thread Jousma, David
Forbidden You don't have permission to access /usrsrvc/account/userservices/jsp/login.jsp on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. _ Dave Jousma

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread Scott Ford
John, Can you use an exit with user generated jcl parameters , only a thought ole wise one.. Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Sep 9, 2012, at 9:40 PM, John McKown wrote: > I decided to ask this forum about a "problem" we have were I work. In > summary, the programmers don't want to be forc

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sep 10, 2012, at 07:37, Dennis Gush wrote: > For very large sorts we place SYSWK files on model 27 volumes as follows:- > > //SORTWK01 DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=??,SPACE=(CYL,32700),DSNTYPE=LARGE > Why not model 54 and SPACE=(CYL,65400)? -- gil --

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread Jousma, David
Letting DFSORT figure out how much SORTWK it needs is a good idea, much better than hard coding yourself. However, DFSORT can only make a good decision when it knows the input dataset(disk or tape), because it gets the record count, and other DCB info to do the estimate. If doing some kind of

Re: Anyone know how to copy a PDS directory as a flat file?

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 01:03:31 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > >In this case it is WAD if you want to find the entries in any of the >PDS and PDS(E) Libraries in the concatenation ignoring any HFS >libraries encountered (and if the same name occurs in more than one >library, return the first one

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread Dennis Gush
For very large sorts we place SYSWK files on model 27 volumes as follows:- //SORTWK01 DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=??,SPACE=(CYL,32700),DSNTYPE=LARGE . . . . -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: 10 September

Re: JES2 record count

2012-09-10 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Paul Gilmartin" wrote in message news:<7694071195605590.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>... > On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:20:35 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: > > >I think JES2 considers a line literally as a line to be printed on a > >printer. The other records in the dataset contain info

Re: JES2 record count

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:20:35 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: >I think JES2 considers a line literally as a line to be printed on a >printer. The other records in the dataset contain information to control >the printer, e.g. advance the paper, but do not print lines. In other >words, they do not

Re: zOSMF Zones

2012-09-10 Thread Jousma, David
I agree with Skip, and Mark. However, we used to do an "all inclusive" ServerPack that was our entire book of IBM software excluding CICS and DB2. We found that WAS (NOT OEMWAS) is a different animal, with requirements to keep multiple versions around at the same time, so that is a product w

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread Staller, Allan
IIRC, SORTWKnn cannot span volumes. It can handle secondary extents. Also with regards to sort, I believe that DFSORT can dynamically allocate the necessary SORTWKnn file. SYNCSORT *DEFINITELY* can. HTH, >SORTWK does not use secondary extents. Really? Where is that documented? Just curious, be

Re: zOSMF Zones

2012-09-10 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
Having been forced to order zOSMF, does one install it in the z/OS zones or in its own zones? I recommend installing z/OSMF in the z/OS zones. I know there are ++IFREQs in some z/OSMF PTFs for FMIDs in z/OS. If not installed in the same zone, be sure to use SMP/E's cross zone requisite chec

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
John, Shouldn't you be looking at the sort manuals instead of SMS? How many sortwknn files are allocated is a function of the sort software not SMS. Thank You, Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor From: John McKown [joa...@swbell.net] Sent: Sunday, September 09,

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-10 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-09-10 13:29, Bruno Sugliani pisze: [...] I do not believe anyone here would run production on a single engine box or run Dev and Test on that single engine machine. [...] Well, I ran *two* production LPARs plus dev LPAR plus sandbox LPAR on *single* CPU. Later, we've had two CPUs.

Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee

2012-09-10 Thread Bruno Sugliani
Thank you Mark for this very honest answer Those of us who tried, and those of us who got the bills from both world, know better than have a definite answer It is quite funny to see that people very often speak of a single engine IFL machine and compare it to a several core x86 installation I

Anyone know how to copy a PDS directory as a flat file?

2012-09-10 Thread Kenneth J. Kripke
Ref: z/os V1R13.0 DFSMS Using Data Sets, SC26-7410-11 This has the structure of a PDS Directory Block. Since you will be most likely be using QSAM to process, the first half word will contain the maximum number of bytes used in the directory block. You won't see the COUNT and KEY fields of th

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread R.S.
To complement: you no more need to specify SORTWK statements - DFSORT will do it for you. (sometimes you can/should specify/change default number of volumes) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2012-09-10 12:25, Brian Fraser pisze: SORTWK will use multiple extents, but it cannot use mu

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread Brian Fraser
SORTWK will use multiple extents, but it cannot use multiple volumes. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht < elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote: > Mike Schwab wrote: > > >SORTWK does not use secondary extents. > > Really? Where is that documented? Just curious, because my jobs

Replacement for LISTDSI for multivolume datasets searched

2012-09-10 Thread Kenneth J. Kripke
These are ALC macros, but, since you have the disk volsers, they can be used. >From the manual DFSMSdfp Advanced Services, Document Number SC26-7400-10 Look at OBTAIN and CVAF. K. Kripke kkri...@mindspring.com -

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Leslie Turriff wrote: >> POS? Please explain, I got 96 useless hits from AcronymFinder.com ... >POS = Piece Of S**t Ah, yes, many thanks for clearing out my murky brain. ;-D So it is 'P*ssed Of Soldiers' using 'Piece of S**t' while walking the 'Path Of Sorrows'? [1] :-D Thanks, Leslie, it see

Re: IGD17054I Dataset not found at program close for temp datasets

2012-09-10 Thread Ravi Gaur
I might guess quick enough to raise Service request with IBM to HSM L2 Team provide you the patch .. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread Leslie Turriff
On Monday 10 September 2012 03:11:09 Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > >MS-Windows is such a POS that they need to concentrate on it. Makes me > > wonder why they adore it. > > POS? Please explain, I got 96 useless hits from AcronymFinder.com ... POS = Piece Of S**t ---

Re: IARVSERV

2012-09-10 Thread Rob Scott
Frank, The way I would approach this for sharing data between two address spaces with IARVSERV is as follows : (1) Before the IARVSERV is issued by the "source owning" program (in ASID #1) , the "target view" program (in ASID #2) must obtain the storage area that is going to be used to get the

Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy

2012-09-10 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mike Schwab wrote: >SORTWK does not use secondary extents. Really? Where is that documented? Just curious, because my jobs and jobs and still more jobs are using dozen SORTWKxx gazillion times everyday... John McKown wrote: >I decided to ask this forum about a "problem" we have were I work. In

Re: JES2 record count

2012-09-10 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
I think JES2 considers a line literally as a line to be printed on a printer. The other records in the dataset contain information to control the printer, e.g. advance the paper, but do not print lines. In other words, they do not cost ink and therefore should not be charged to the customer. In thi