Re: Parsing

Those are very interesting examples. Though, when I brought this up I wasn't talking about parsing, but people who commented that some human languages really don't need spaces. (I think that is what was said.) So I mentioned that in fact reading long words that contain elements of grammar and

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

My favourite episode! - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Mike Schwab Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:47:03 To: Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: "New" way to do UCB

Re: Parsing

My oldish German from around 1970 memory said something to the effect that in German the they add words (and drop blanks) to use technical terms while I can't remember specifics (from 40+ years ago) a German coworker tried to explain to me in german/english a technical term he was amazed th

Re: Parsing

If a blank is the token delimiter arbitrarily long tokens are possible even in such a romance language as Italian. I recently wrote a check on my Italian bank account for duemilanovecentoquarantadue (2942) euros. This twenty-seven character construct is longer than such often cited German words a

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

On 19 November 2012 16:39, Lindy Mayfield wrote: > This has been so off topic for so long I don't mind this: I was thinking, at > some point during some sort of stupid thing I had to do when I was bored to > tears: What would SQL be like if it were developed in Finnish? > > Or any other human

Re: Parsing

On 11/19/2012 5:52 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: that is for me a funny example, but not at all extreme. German has a lot of compound words that have no spaces. Finnish, too. My example was a single "word" but I could have made it longer by compounding it. I searched for "longest words" on Wikip

Re: VSAM Return Code 44 Received on Write to Fixed Length File

What are we looking for in the LISTCAT output? RECORDSIZE is not found. Is this because our VSAM file has a fixed length? Thanks. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 5:10 PM T

Re: VSAM Return Code 44 Received on Write to Fixed Length File

Then u get some default. Do a LISTC on the AIX to see what it is. You might want to PRINT the records in the AIX itself just to see. Or on an EXAMINE on it. On Nov 19, 2012 6:52 PM, "John Weber" wrote: > Interesting about a secondary status variable. We'll investigate that. > > Regarding the AIX

Re: VSAM Return Code 44 Received on Write to Fixed Length File

Interesting about a secondary status variable. We'll investigate that. Regarding the AIX definitions. We do not include a RECORDSIZE parameter. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Monday, November 19, 2

Re: VSAM Return Code 44 Received on Write to Fixed Length File

My habit with VSAM is to use the second COBOL FILE STATUS variable to get the actual VSAM return and reason codes. Often that is the only way to determine the actual reason. What comes to mind in your case is that the RECORDSIZE on your AIX is too small to record all the base keys associated with

Re: VSAM Return Code 44 Received on Write to Fixed Length File

The only sysprint from the job is the status code display from the program. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 3:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSAM Return

In RPTOPTS what does Programmer Default mean?

Environment: V1R13, C++ z/OS batch, pre-link, non-XPLINK I'm trying to figure out why #pragma runopts is not working as I would expect. But first ... When I set on RPTOPTS the report shows several options as being "Programmer default." I don't know where they are coming from. They don't correspon

Re: "Dynamic DCB" [was "New" way to do UCB lookups]

FWIW I once offered here a tutorial called "Converting an RMODE=24 BSAM, BPAM, and/or QSAM Assembler Program to RMODE=ANY." That offer is still good. I have probably sent out thirty or more copies over the years. It also addresses reentrance. Write me off-list at charlesm at mcn dot org if you woul

Re: Parsing (was: "New" way to do UCB lookups)

:>: -Original Message- :>: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On :>: Behalf Of McKown, John :>: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:07 PM :>: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU :>: Subject: Re: Parsing (was: "New" way to do UCB lookups) :>: :>: I was told that man

Re: Parsing (was: "New" way to do UCB lookups)

:>: -Original Message- :>: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On :>: Behalf Of Steve Comstock :>: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:00 PM :>: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU :>: Subject: Re: Parsing (was: "New" way to do UCB lookups) :>: :>: On 11/19/2012 2:5

Re: VSAM Return Code 44 Received on Write to Fixed Length File

Could you post the IDC messages for the 44? Lizette -Original Message- >From: John Weber >Sent: Nov 19, 2012 4:11 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: VSAM Return Code 44 Received on Write to Fixed Length File > >We are using a batch process to write account records to a VSAM file

VSAM Return Code 44 Received on Write to Fixed Length File

We are using a batch process to write account records to a VSAM file while also writing records to an audit file which is also a VSAM file. Both files include an index and several alternate indexes. Each alternate index allows duplicates (NONUNIQUEKEY). The audit file receives a VSAM return code

Re: Parsing (was: "New" way to do UCB lookups)

this isn't a complete illustrative example of what you refer to, but even still in some languages this is still today a certain extent true. some finnish words have all sorts of grammar built into them, yet are still considered one word: ikä = age ikävä = miss (you), too bad ikävystyä = to mi

Re: "Dynamic DCB" [was "New" way to do UCB lookups]

There is always the option of setting up your HLASM with RMODE=SPLIT. Put all your DCB's in the RMODE=24 part and your DCBE's and code in the RMODE=31 part, and Bob's your uncle. Of course, that's not reentrant. You still need to obtain 24-bit dynamic storage and copy the RMODE=24 part to the

Re: Parsing (was: "New" way to do UCB lookups)

Typically in modern languages the vowel points, diacritic markings, syllabic stress markers, etc., are only used in printed works that are used by beginning learners of those languages. Being a beginning learner in Greek once again (and this time no drop-out), I have happily discovered that mod

Re: Strange thought - ADRDSSU output to a UNIX pipe.

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:16:59 -0600, McKown, John wrote: >This though occurred to me when Lindy said that no mainframe shop he knows of >has tape drives. I wonder what others would think of the possibility of being >able to use both ADRDSSU and AMATERSE in a UNIX environment. Why? Well, image >d

Re: Parsing (was: "New" way to do UCB lookups)

On Nov 19, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > Classic Latin was written with no interword separators. My Greek professor once told us all punctuation (and spaces between words are punctuation) is a "crutch for poor readers." I'll keep my crutch, thank you very much. -- Curtis Pew (c.

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

Paper tape is an oxymoron when used with WORM, On Nov 19, 2012, at 3:16 PM, McKown, John wrote: Yea, but paper tape is hell to reuse! I guess it was the original WORM tape media. But that WORM tape is not the same as tape worm. What a weird language English is. -- John McKown Systems Eng

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

On Nov 19, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Their blind use is a recipe for disaster. Little gets done in an industrial society without the use of high explosives, but that doesn't mean that it is prudent to use them as a substitute for a spade when digging up your garden. Goo

Re: "Dynamic DCB" [was "New" way to do UCB lookups]

I do make dynamic DCBs that way. I just don't much like having to "adjust" the pointers to the DCBE et al. I'm just lazy. And, one reason to use macros is for time savings and clarity. Since IBM refuses to upgrade xSAM to 31 bit _properly_, I would really wish they'd upgrade the macro to be able

Re: Parsing (was: "New" way to do UCB lookups)

I was told that many old languages had no interword spacing mainly because that wasted precious writing material. I was also told that old Hebrew omitted the "vowels" to save space, which is why some words in the Torah as uncertain as to which word was meant. mgnsntncwthnvwlsndnspcs (Imagine a s

"Dynamic DCB" [was "New" way to do UCB lookups]

>> >> I have only recently gotten into writing rent code as "normal". Unfortunately(?) that has been coupled with the fact that all >> I write any more is LE enabled HLASM. I still have some problems with DCBs. I really wish IBM had a way to dynamically create >> one in dynamic storage _easily

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:09:52 +, Lindy Mayfield wrote: >Paper tape is even cheaper, but I'm just being a smart a$$. :-) > Per bit of storage? I doubt that it's cheaper than even DVD-R or consumer hard drives. But you'll have to do the computation for me. (Include floor space costs.) >But se

Re: Parsing (was: "New" way to do UCB lookups)

On 11/19/2012 2:56 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:39:57 +, Lindy Mayfield wrote: It gets me all Lewis Carroll just thinking about it. I cannot even imagine how to create something like that SQL in Finnish. Something so simple as that, I cannot even think how a computer

Parsing (was: "New" way to do UCB lookups)

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:39:57 +, Lindy Mayfield wrote: > >It gets me all Lewis Carroll just thinking about it. I cannot even imagine >how to create something like that SQL in Finnish. Something so simple as >that, I cannot even think how a computer could parse it written in an >agglutinativ

Re: Regarding Time Sharing

In , on 11/19/2012 at 03:58 PM, Quasar Chunawala said: >7. I shall correct the references section. FYI, several relevant manuals are available at . -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

Juliet on her Balcony - Star Trek TNG Episode Darmark On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: > This has been so off topic for so long I don't mind this: I was thinking, at > some point during some sort of stupid thing I had to do when I was bored to > tears: What would SQL be

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

My Pooh can kick your Propertius' butt: "When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it." -Original Message- Fr

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

Paper tape - the scars on my back translate WORM as "Write Once, Read? Maybe ..." Vacation Notice: None Tom Puddicombe Mainframe Performance & Capacity Planning CSC 31 Brookdale Rd, Meriden, CT 06450 ITIS | (860) 428-3252 | tpudd...@csc.com | www.csc.com This is a PRIVATE message. If you are

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

This has been so off topic for so long I don't mind this: I was thinking, at some point during some sort of stupid thing I had to do when I was bored to tears: What would SQL be like if it were developed in Finnish? Or any other human language to any other computer language. Select age, boyfr

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I thought messing up Leap Day was bad. http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/19/tech/mobile/google-december-mistake/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IB

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

Mr. Gilmore, yes, thanks for taking the time to respond to my musings. You give me the impression (albeit possibly falsely in my mind) that you are correct, when you are simply being exact. I was a DBA in D.C. government for the Y2K, and we, and I knew all the DB2 rules. But I also knew what

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

I have only recently gotten into writing rent code as "normal". Unfortunately(?) that has been coupled with the fact that all I write any more is LE enabled HLASM. I still have some problems with DCBs. I really wish IBM had a way to dynamically create one in dynamic storage _easily_. Like a DCB

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

Yea, but paper tape is hell to reuse! I guess it was the original WORM tape media. But that WORM tape is not the same as tape worm. What a weird language English is. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills *

Re: Strange thought - ADRDSSU output to a UNIX pipe.

I would love to eliminate tapes. We've already eliminated our Tape Librarian. Now one of the guys in systems has to fill out all the paper work, pull tapes, scan them, etc. We did the same with print operations because "we're going to outsource 100%!". Well, we didn't. So the same guy is stuck w

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

Lindy, The point Propertius---and I, derivatively---was making was that how people think about their problems, the kinds of questions they ask, etc., etc, are shaped by what they do. We are all creatures of our experience; and that experience is different for each of us. What this thread establi

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

Paper tape is even cheaper, but I'm just being a smart a$$. :-) But seriously, I think that must be wrong if so many people are getting rid of tape drives. But honestly, I haven't a clue about this stuff at all other than just thinking about it and reading posts. Lindy -Original Message-

Re: Strange thought - ADRDSSU output to a UNIX pipe.

You are cool, John. Finland is a small country, but a few of the customers that I know well enough in other places in Europe use them only for legacy purposes. Which was why I had to ask a few other questions when my Finnish customers said they didn't have any. At all. Nada. :-) But how

Re: Murphy's book (MVS Control Block)

In <2576014035125865.wa.markmzelden@listserv.ua.edu>, on 11/19/2012 at 09:48 AM, Mark Zelden said: >I still have an original I'm looking at right now from the early 90s Such books tend to fall into one of two categories: 1. Too dated to be useful 2. Cold dead fingers. -- Shmuel

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

In <45fcfbbb8bc8eb4a9dfedc6fa2cc7fdf2dbee...@sdkmbx02.emea.sas.com>, on 11/19/2012 at 02:44 PM, Lindy Mayfield said: >People still use tapes? It's an inexpensive way to create media for backup. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

In , on 11/19/2012 at 11:10 AM, John Gilmore said: >An authorized program can do great, even lethal damage; and the >standards for them are or should be much higher than they are or >need be for a program that generates mailing labels. That >conceded, little that is useful gets done without

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

What is so bad about that? When all you have is a hammer, AND you are a carpenter, etc... You chastised us, then told us in Latin it was ok. :-) (Well, not me you didn't. If I needed to know it, I'd learn it. Here I am just curious.) Anyway, if I am a seaman, why would I care how many shee

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

Navita (sic) . . . The seaman recalls his winds; the plowman remembers his bulls; the soldier enumerates his wounds; the shepherd lists his sheep. Propertius, Elegies II.i.43 --jg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive a

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

Gee, every bit of the code that I have sent to the CBT has clearly (I hope) stated: "Your take full responsibility for this use of this software. It if breaks, you own both pieces." The CBT is not just a place for "production quality" code, though I think the majority of the code there is. But,

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

Sam, if its for your use only I guess I agree. But if it becomes public domain then a higher (stricter?) standard should be made *UNLESS* (IMO) a statement is made that the output is should not be depended on and the statement should be either at the the top or of the report or somewhere

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

IBM software must continue to support features X, Y, and Z and hardware devices X1, Y2, and Z99 long after the vast majority of their customers no longer use those things. Just because your installation might have NO real tape drives does not mean that you do not have software running right now

Strange thought - ADRDSSU output to a UNIX pipe.

This though occurred to me when Lindy said that no mainframe shop he knows of has tape drives. I wonder what others would think of the possibility of being able to use both ADRDSSU and AMATERSE in a UNIX environment. Why? Well, image doing a ADRDSSU DUMP of a disk (or even a logical dataset back

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

Try Googling for it again with "navita" instead of "navitra". Bill Fairchild Programmer Rocket Software 408 Chamberlain Park Lane * Franklin, TN 37069-2526 * USA t: +1.617.614.4503 * e: bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com * w: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Dis

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

I never asked how they do those things, just when a few years ago I learned that all tapes were gone I thought, oh, cool. But, thinking about it, I have never seen, for example, a z/OS level more than two below the latest one. My latest customer went to 1.13 a month ago. It is just, I guess

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

That Latin phrase Google didn't find for me. How do you say, "If all you got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." The Romans must have had something similar. :-) Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gi

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

I assume the companies without tapes do off-site replication of their disk arrays for disaster recovery and on-line (error) recovery? We would like to do that. But 3952 tape and storage fees cost less than the duplicated disk array plus telecommunications fees would. -- John McKown Systems E

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

No mainframe shop that I know of in Finland has had tape drives for some years. I thought they went the way of card readers and paper tape already. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Conway Sent: Monday, November 1

Re: SV: Murphy's book (MVS Control Block)

For an asking price of $295, I can't see why anyone would be hugely grateful. It was published in 1995. -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Thomas Berg wrote: > I foresee a huge gratitude for this link: > http://www.amazon.com/MVS-Control-Blocks-Ranade-Series/dp/0070443092 > :) > >

Re: Fw: Ot: GOOGLE Chrome

Oh, QuickTime keeps trying to install iTunes. On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > When you download something, check the WHOLE web-page, like Adobe, where some > unneeded nasties are also downloaded when you're not careful. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where

"New" way to do UCB lookups

Hi Folks, Just for the record, I have to say one thing. If you are writing some program that you're selling for money, it has to be (at least with your best effort) 100 percent airtight. When you have the responsibility for keeping a data center up, you have to take that responsibility

Re: 3390-27

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:59:28 -0500, Martin, Larry D wrote: >> >>IBM Disk capacity tables show 3390-27 as 32760 Cylinders >> > That number is spookily close to 2^15. Was it chosen by design > for tolerance of code that might malfunction wit

Re: If you are going to z/OS 1.13 - Watch out for this....

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:24:51 +, Eatherly, John D wrote: >APAR Identifier .. OA39056 Last Changed 12/08/08 Why? I don't have it on and have bee

If you are going to z/OS 1.13 - Watch out for this....

APAR Identifier .. OA39056 Last Changed 12/08/08 IEC090I ABEND50D S50D RSN18 DCB RESIDES ABOVE 16MB BAD HIGH ORDER BYTE FOR MODE=24 (R1 NOT = 0) EO

Re: Regarding Time Sharing

m...@mentor-services.com (Mike Myers) writes: > Lynn: > > I'm quite familiar with that project. Three others and I actually > implemented a prototype which let a TSO user issue the command CMS > which would obtain a block of storage in the TSO address space and > load and run the CMS kernel using S

SV: Murphy's book (MVS Control Block)

I foresee a huge gratitude for this link: http://www.amazon.com/MVS-Control-Blocks-Ranade-Series/dp/0070443092 :) Regards Thomas Berg __ Thomas Berg Specialist SMS/AM SWEDBANK AB (Publ) > -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: IBM

Re: 3390-27

Thanks for the information - (I feel better now) ...Larry -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 3390-27 Well, technical

Re: 3390-27

Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as an official "3390-27" (or "3390-54") - they are just colloquial terms for large 3390-9s with approximately 3x and 6x capacity. The size of each device can vary depending on the way your disks have been setup in the storage array. The only official "

Re: 3390-27

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:59:28 -0500, Martin, Larry D wrote: > >IBM Disk capacity tables show 3390-27 as 32760 Cylinders > That number is spookily close to 2^15. Was it chosen by design for tolerance of code that might malfunction with a negative halfword cylinder number? Has some such code been br

Re: 3390-27

Well, technically speaking, there never was a 3390-27. There was the 3390-1, 3390-2, 3390-3, and 3390-9 as actual physically orderable devices. The 3390-n for other values of "n" usually referred to either a multiplier over the size of a 3390-1, e.g.: a 3390-27 was 27x the number of cylinders of

Re: 3390-27

No, the DS8700 is actually 27 mod-1s, or 9 mod-3s, or 3 mod-9s or 1 mod-27. The 32760 (mod-27) is based on the 65520 (mod-54) configurable max. Google is your friend. Lots of hits for "32760 vs. 30051" :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSE

Re: Regarding Time Sharing

l...@garlic.com(Lynn Wheeler) writes: As consequence of not being able to fix TSO &/or MVS, POK had a project to port CMS to MVS ... as a way of providing interactive services, but as mentioned previously MVS has some fundamental flaws for providing interactive service ... and the implementation

3390-27

I just observed the following: IBM Disk capacity tables show 3390-27 as 32760 Cylinders Out DS8700 3390-27 disks have 30051 Cylinders Can anyone explain this? Was the DS8700 configured incorrectly? Thanks, .Larry This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Prince Georg

Re: Ot: GOOGLE Chrome

Elardus, I totally agree with you. After getting a virus when I consulted in my email, I am super extra careful Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Nov 19, 2012, at 8:44 AM, Elardus Engelbr

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

Lindy, If the control block is small enough to be wholly contained in a register, then you can serialize against the whole control block by the proper use of one of the Compare and Swap instructions. Typically, however, a control block is larger than that, so a convention is established that e

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

I have had a curious reaction to recent developments in this thread. Many posters apparently see virtues in not being authorized that are distinct from not needing to be authorized. An authorized program can do great, even lethal damage; and the standards for them are or should be much higher tha

Re: Murphy's book (MVS Control Block)

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:45:45 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >In <50aa1442.7050...@isis-papyrus.com>, on 11/19/2012 > at 12:13 PM, Miklos Szigetvari >said: > >>I found this still a very useful one:Hank Murphy:MVS Control Blocks > >Is it still in print? If not, do you have a link to an

Re: Ot: GOOGLE Chrome

Phil, au contraire, I find it ontopic. I work in isolation and when subjects such as this threaten to disrupt my PC RDz and TXSeries setup in unbeknownst ways, I read with concern about impacts and watch fors offered by this group - I pay attention. Commentary from Elardus was noted. Graham Hob

Re: Regarding Time Sharing

shmuel+...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: > We had an SE in the mid 1970's who claimed that IBM was ready to ship > a TSS release with a virtual machine capability but pulled the plug on > it at the last minute. He claimed that performance was good, and was > not a happy camper whe

Re: Murphy's book (MVS Control Block)

On 19.11.2012 15:45, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In <50aa1442.7050...@isis-papyrus.com>, on 11/19/2012 at 12:13 PM, Miklos Szigetvari said: I found this still a very useful one:Hank Murphy:MVS Control Blocks Is it still in print? If not, do you have a link to an online copy? I have a

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

McKown, John wrote: >... They are simply incapable of properly sizing (SPACE=) their data sets. ... Aw, ! Still struggling with them? I still remember that messy threads about the space, volsers, SMS, etc... >... I don't know why. ... etc... It's just way too much trouble. Are these brai

Re: Regarding Time Sharing

m...@mentor-services.com (Mike Myers) writes: > As Lynn Wheeler points out, TSS/360 was considered sound by many both > in IBM and by at least a handful of IBM customers. I ran across many > strong advocates during an assignment at IBM's Watson Research Center > at Yorktown Heights, NY in the early

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

We use tapes quite a bit. We use 3592 carts for off-site storage. We use virtual 3490 for use in batch jobs for in-house backups. We have OpenTech's (now Rocket Software's) TapeCopy for data on virtual 3490 which needs to be off site for recovery. We considered using "TMM" to convert from virtua

Re: Regarding Time Sharing

In <50aa3025.40...@mentor-services.com>, on 11/19/2012 at 08:12 AM, Mike Myers said: >I guess I always thought that Sequential Scheduling System (SSS or >S-cubed) and PCP were synonymous. Look at ENQ for an example of changes that affected all three. Somewhere along the line the concept of a

Re: Murphy's book (MVS Control Block)

In <50aa1442.7050...@isis-papyrus.com>, on 11/19/2012 at 12:13 PM, Miklos Szigetvari said: >I found this still a very useful one:Hank Murphy:MVS Control Blocks Is it still in print? If not, do you have a link to an online copy? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2

Re: Regarding Time Sharing

In , on 11/19/2012 at 03:58 PM, Quasar Chunawala said: >1. Weren't SSS, MSS and MPS later known as PCP, MFT and MVT? There was significant redesign and a name change[1] between the original MPS and MVT. >3. Your lines '*I've never seen a system running TSO where there >were as many processor

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

Why is that curious? Steven F. Conway, CISSP LA Systems z/OS Systems Support Phone: 703.295.1926 steve_con...@ao.uscourts.gov From: Lindy Mayfield To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 11/19/2012 09:44 AM Subject:Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discus

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

People still use tapes? Oh. That's curious. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sam Golob Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 7:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: "New" way to do UCB lookups Now for a new one.

Re: Ot: GOOGLE Chrome

This is off-topic and does not belong on this list, any more than gas prices, politics, or LOLCATs. If I wanted to read about basic Windows issues, I'd subscribe to a basic Windows list. I know Ted meant well, but that doesn't make it appropriate. --

Re: Regarding Time Sharing

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:12:05 -0500, Mike Myers wrote: >... I quit to become a consultant, due to my dissatisfaction with the project >as a whole. That > was in 1984. Some of us have been disillusioned with this business for only slightly less time Shane ... --

Re: Fw: Ot: GOOGLE Chrome

Ted MacNEIL wrote: >PS: it was only my desk-top short-cuts to specific web sites. NOT the 'main' >ICON on my desk-top. What are the properties of those short-cuts? Next time, turn off your automatic updates and turn ON any notifications of installation attempts. Look carefully at your 'add-ons

Re: Ot: GOOGLE Chrome

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 23:24:43 -0400, Clark Morris wrote: > > ... I think Adobe likes to also add Mc Afee products ... > How does that work (but I think I've seen it)? Isn't McAfee a commercial product that I wouldn't expect to see drug along with a free upgrade to something else? Is it McAfee L

Re: Regarding Time Sharing

Quasar: As Lynn Wheeler points out, TSS/360 was considered sound by many both in IBM and by at least a handful of IBM customers. I ran across many strong advocates during an assignment at IBM's Watson Research Center at Yorktown Heights, NY in the early '80s. These folks were serious enough t

Re: Regarding Time Sharing

Hi Shmuel: I guess I always thought that Sequential Scheduling System (SSS or S-cubed) and PCP were synonymous. I do remember the transition to MFT and MVT. I attended IBM programming classes starting in April of 1966. The first release of OS/360 had just been shipped and we were programming

Re: resmgr exit

Any common-storage subpool is fine. >The doc says the resmgr exit runs out of master does that mean that the >storage I obtain for the resmgr exit to run should have an >Alet pointing to master No it does not mean that. It means that the resmgr gets control with home=*master* (ASID 1). It does

Re: resmgr exit

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:15:18 -0500 Micheal Burn wrote: :>I put a DC H'0' as the first I friction :>I would imagine I would get a SDUMP :>Abend of some sort I do not know if a ASID RESMGR abend by default takes a dump. Have you tried a SLIP for an 0C1? Did you check the RESMGR return code? :>O

Re: resmgr exit

I put a DC H'0' as the first I friction I would imagine I would get a SDUMP Abend of some sort Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2012, at 4:01 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:10:01 -0500 Micheal Butz > wrote: > > :>I have RESMGR exit for a asid other than my own the code is

Murphy's book (MVS Control Block)

Hi Just see a number of discussions about MVS text books. I found this still a very useful one:Hank Murphy:MVS Control Blocks (McGrawHill 1994;-) ) ISBN:0-07-044309-2 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instr

JCL Syntax Highlighter for the web

*Hi everybody,* I have written a *Syntax Highlighter Javascript *for *JCL(Job Control Language)*. This javascript works with Alex Gorbatchev's Syntax Highlighter. You can see the sample results at http://www.mainframes360.com/2010/04/cobol-compile-link-jcl.html. The source code is hosted at http:

Re: Ot: GOOGLE Chrome

Hi Ted, 3 more security tickets, along with any others from the list might help Adobe care a little bit. :) FWIW, Linda Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2012, at 1:37 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > I minded. > My brother did. > One of my sons did! > > - > Ted MacNEIL > eamacn...@yahoo.ca > Twitter

Re: Regarding Time Sharing

*Peter -* * * I shall definitely make it a point to go through this. I gave it a cursory glance, and found it easy to digest. Thank you very much. I hope you've liked my blog. - Quasar On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) < peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com> wrote: > Look fo

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