Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-11-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 11:12:54 -0700, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >Interesting information at: >http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21248101 > >... systems or applications that use the POSIX time zone format may >not change time properly ... > >Systems and applications using t

Re: SMF type 119 to catch TN3270

2015-11-09 Thread Charles Mills
Sorry. I was so shaken by what you said about the POCs that I did not answer your question. The datasets reference by the user during the TSO session? They would be recorded by SMF 14, 15, 6x, 80 or 92 as appropriate. There is no Comm Server/SMF 119 involvement in any dataset access from TSO. Cha

Re: SMF type 119 to catch TN3270

2015-11-09 Thread Charles Mills
Non-3270 type Telnet. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carlos Cordero Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 4:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMF type 119 to catch TN3270 What about subtype 22 & 23?

Re: SMF type 119 to catch TN3270

2015-11-09 Thread Charles Mills
> a couple of customers who had tested in a POC, didn´t liked the installation schema Please contact me offline. We have nearly a 100% success rate with POC's. I know of no customers who "didn't like the installation schema." Every single POC we have installed in Mexico has either been successful

Re: SMF type 119 to catch TN3270

2015-11-09 Thread Carlos Cordero
What about subtype 22 & 23? > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 14:37:46 -0800 > From: charl...@mcn.org > Subject: Re: SMF type 119 to catch TN3270 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > TN3270 is what Comm Server calls "Telnet SNA" and is recorded in subtypes 20 > and 21. > > There are no "files and DS nam

Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-11-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 15:43:38 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: > >Duplicate timestamps, while not impossible during the hour in >question, are a lot less likely than non monotonically increasing >timestamps. Depending on the precision of the stored timestamps, of >course. If they are in [E]TOD format, the

Re: SMF type 119 to catch TN3270

2015-11-09 Thread Carlos Cordero
Yes, I mean the DS names referenced by the user during the TSO telnet transmisión. Currently the FTP messages are handled by recording SMF 119 subtype 70, included the DS name and member. The case of IND$FILE (protected in RACF by program class) the current scope for recording events in tr

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-09 Thread Richard Pinion
Shai Hess and MFNetDisk are alive and well. They are in the process of making MFNetDisk commercially available. The pricing is still being work out. If anyone is interested they can contact the MFnetDisk team at mfnetd...@gmail.com, or contact Shai directly at shai.h...@gmail.com. --- charl...

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-09 Thread Charles Mills
Needs z/OS, right? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 12:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: I just bought an IBM z890 Another thought on disk, whatever ha

Re: SMF type 119 to catch TN3270

2015-11-09 Thread Charles Mills
TN3270 is what Comm Server calls "Telnet SNA" and is recorded in subtypes 20 and 21. There are no "files and DS names" involved -- at least not that Comm Server deems worthy of including in SMF. Do you mean files and DS names referenced by the user during his TSO session? Only normal RACF audit a

Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-11-09 Thread Charles Mills
I am not responsible for the business arrangements. I do not know that what you say is true. Perhaps they IPL every image on general principles. We have seen that it is kind of pointless so why not doubly pointless? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:

Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-11-09 Thread Bob Rutledge
On 11/9/2015 3:45 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: On 27 October 2015 at 11:17, Mike Schwab wrote: The 24*7*365 companies have solved it. Versus the 24*7*364.96 companies that haven't. That 24*7*365 is a pretty large number. What would the units be? One itch. Bob --

Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-11-09 Thread Chris Hoelscher
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Re: (External):Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-11-09 Thread J O Skip Robinson
24*7*365 is indeed a big number. Because it's 7 years! 24*7*52 comes a lot closer to 1 year, but it's seldom represented that way. Maybe Common Core Math holds some hope for the future. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co

Re: SRB And Enclave SRB

2015-11-09 Thread michelbutz
The WUQ and WEB are on the IBM unlicensed book shelf Just by looking at the control blocks seems they have pointers to the from LCCX which kind of makes sense when they can be scheduled to run On a certain processor Thanks for your help Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 9, 2015, at 4:08 PM, John

Re: ISREDIT REXX CHANGE no variable substitution

2015-11-09 Thread Ken Smith
FWIW, Here's a working example of an exec calling a macro to edit a pds member. This runs in ISPF batch. I think I had trouble passing a value to the 2nd one via arg, and resorted to VPUT/VGET. Ken /* calling REXX Exec */ drvolA = '99' /* vol ser */ address ISPEXEC 'VPUT DRVOLA ASIS'

Re: SRB And Enclave SRB

2015-11-09 Thread John Arwe
On 11/6/2015 2:03 PM, michelbutz wrote: > Thanks I understand that in the beginning SRB were quick and dirty however > now they have become more robust > If you can maybe guide me to the control blocks associated with them the same > way TCB is associated with a task > > I am thinking of WEQ WU

SMF type 119 to catch TN3270

2015-11-09 Thread Carlos Cordero
Hi all, The SMF 119, subtype 20,21,22 and 23 catch events from telnet activitie; but I didn't see wich of these subtypes and theri corresponding offsets can provide me the information of the resource (file/DSN name) involved on the sesión, is this aloowed trough these subtypes?. Thanks.

Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-11-09 Thread Tony Harminc
On 27 October 2015 at 11:17, Mike Schwab wrote: > The 24*7*365 companies have solved it. > Versus the 24*7*364.96 companies that haven't. That 24*7*365 is a pretty large number. What would the units be? Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-11-09 Thread Tony Harminc
On 9 November 2015 at 11:35, J O Skip Robinson wrote: [...] > Meanwhile no application area has reported problems with duplicate time > stamps interfering with their production. (Is that a second factoid?) So > running with true UTC and current OS and middleware, fallback time change > should n

Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-11-09 Thread Tony Harminc
On 27 October 2015 at 09:52, Charles Mills wrote: An old one, but... > Summarizing, there are three possible reasons: > 1. The hardware clock is set to local time and it is necessary to stop for an > hour to avoid duplicate timestamps. > 2. There are one or more applications that use civil time

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-09 Thread Pommier, Rex
Another thought on disk, whatever happened to MFNETDISK from Shai Hess? Don't know if it would work in this environment or not. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 5:13 AM

Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-11-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-11-09, at 09:35, J O Skip Robinson wrote: > I can contribute one factoid to this discussion. We use IBM's TWS for job > scheduling. Because of the scheduling's extreme sensitivity to time stamps > and because of a negative incident we had a few years back, we've been > accustomed to bou

Re: OT (was: Privately owned mainframes)

2015-11-09 Thread William Donzelli
> (Fact checking is left to the interested reader.) While 8086s are not by any stretch of the imagination scarce, the specific 8086 based card that NASA needs (I think Multibus?) is fairly scarce, but show up on Ebay from time to time. -- Will

Re: Question on IMS and dr volume backups

2015-11-09 Thread J O Skip Robinson
This may be OT for your actual question, but an alarm went off in my head while reading this post. If you carefully shut down your systems before copying to your DR site, you may well find yourself in a world of hurt in the event of a real disaster. If systems die a sudden death without warning,

Extended Addressability for non-SMS VSAM

2015-11-09 Thread R.S.
AFAIK since z/OS 2.1 it is possible to use EA for VSAM LDS clusters which are not Extended Format (and not SMS-managed). Questions: Q1. Is it supported for any kind of VSAM LDS or for ZFS only? Q2. Is it supported/planned to support for other types of VSAM datasets? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz,

Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-11-09 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I can contribute one factoid to this discussion. We use IBM's TWS for job scheduling. Because of the scheduling's extreme sensitivity to time stamps and because of a negative incident we had a few years back, we've been accustomed to bouncing TWS shortly after the 'fallback' time change. This ti

Re: Premature SYMBOL substitution in SYSIN?

2015-11-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 10:12:01 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: >I encountered a similar issue several months ago with something like this: > >//FOO PROC BAT= >// EXPORT SYMLIST=WOM >// SET WOM=&BAT >//*

Re: Premature SYMBOL substitution in SYSIN?

2015-11-09 Thread Tom Marchant
I encountered a similar issue several months ago with something like this: //FOO PROC BAT= // EXPORT SYMLIST=WOM // SET WOM=&BAT //* //LKED EXEC PGM=IEBGENER //SYSPRINT DD SYSO

Re: OT (was: Privately owned mainframes)

2015-11-09 Thread Mike Schwab
On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 05:56:35 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > >>Mike Schwab wrote: >> >>>http://www.chipsetc.com/computer-memorabilia-collectors.html >>>Cray Y-MP C90 supercomputer listed on e

OT (was: Privately owned mainframes)

2015-11-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 05:56:35 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >Mike Schwab wrote: > >>http://www.chipsetc.com/computer-memorabilia-collectors.html >>Cray Y-MP C90 supercomputer listed on eBay in September 2000; it sold to a >>private individual for $45,000, down from the original list price of $3

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-09 Thread Pete Lancashire
>Hey IBM-Main folks, what about a "jump-start" for paying for >Mr. Krukosky travel and hotel expenses to Share. I'd make a >donation. >Count me in, I'd toss into the jar. I never work for IBM (was at Burroughs) but even in the late 70's money could be found for getting a college student to be 's

New TCP security feature HOSTKEY in MCD (MFNETDISK).

2015-11-09 Thread Shai S
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Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-09 Thread Bruce Lightsey
And don't forget that Ubuntu now officially supports the zSeries. Whether that extends back to the z890 or not, I don't know, but I have a whole stack of their propaganda from the IBM Insight conference touting it on the "Iron Penguins" - and Ubuntu is my Linux flavor of choice at home. Good l

Re: zOS 2.1 vs. zOS 2.2

2015-11-09 Thread Staller, Allan
This came in w/z/OS 2.1. IBM added all of the fonts to the base distribution (OMVS and z/OS files) ISTR this adds 1800 cyls to the sysres set. Mine still fits on 2 3390-9's. HTH. #2. As mentioned already, there is an increase in required space, I thought Marna's talk had something in it, bu

Re: Privately owned mainframes (Was Re: I just bought an IBM z890)

2015-11-09 Thread William Donzelli
> Apparently a man bought a mainframe (Cray 1?) and the US Congress was not > happy with it. It seemed they don't like that individuals may own a > supercomputers because they feared that it could be misused [1] to threaten > the government's military computers or so goes the story. > > He was e

Re: Privately owned mainframes (Was Re: I just bought an IBM z890)

2015-11-09 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mike Schwab wrote: >http://www.chipsetc.com/computer-memorabilia-collectors.html >Cray Y-MP C90 supercomputer listed on eBay in September 2000; it sold to a >private individual for $45,000, down from the original list price of $35 >million. Interesting, what is more interesting, here is a snipp

Re: Privately owned mainframes (Was Re: I just bought an IBM z890)

2015-11-09 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-11-09 o 12:00, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: Cannaerts, Jan wrote: On the upside, you're making sure that the only people left on your platform are interested, and patient people. Who usually gravitate towards being competent in what they do. Indeed. I wish there are more of them...

Re: Privately owned mainframes (Was Re: I just bought an IBM z890)

2015-11-09 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www.chipsetc.com/computer-memorabilia-collectors.html Cray Y-MP C90 supercomputer listed on eBay in September 2000; it sold to a private individual for $45,000, down from the original list price of $35 million. On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 5:00 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > Cannaerts, Jan wro

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-09 Thread Mike Schwab
Open Solaris on System Z was almost complete when developement was dropped. Possibility to complete with what was done. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/hercules-390/search/messages?query=solaris On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Mark Post wrote: On 11/8/2015 at 07:29 PM, "Shmuel Metz (S

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-09 Thread Mike Schwab
Luminex Virtual Blue 3990 is a box that has ESCON and FICON connectors to the mainframe to supply ECKD volumes and FC for the data storage device. http://www.clipper.com/research/TCG2003050.pdf On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 1:28 AM, Connor Krukosky wrote: > On 11/8/2015 9:11 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: >

Privately owned mainframes (Was Re: I just bought an IBM z890)

2015-11-09 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Cannaerts, Jan wrote: >On the upside, you're making sure that the only people left on your platform >are interested, and patient people. Who usually gravitate towards being >competent in what they do. Indeed. I wish there are more of them... Money is the problem, just to have a premium PC requ

Re: OT - but interesting -AMD sued: Number of Bulldozer cores in its chips is a lie, allegedly

2015-11-09 Thread Mike Schwab
Almost exactly the reverse of hyper-threading, where you have two of everything to feed one core because a core can become stalled due to waiting for input. Where this might have an advantage is to take both sides of a branch then keep the one that is actually reached. On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 11:1

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-09 Thread Cannaerts, Jan
You know something's wrong with IBM's way of doing things when it's easier, cheaper and more straightforward to learn how to work with their machines by buying one on auction and tinkering with it, as opposed to getting training for it. A sad state of affairs. On the upside, you're making sure

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-09 Thread Timothy Sipples
Here are some other random bits of advice, in no particular order: 1. You're welcome to try IBM's Developer Kit for Linux, Java Edition Version 8 on your machine once you get Linux up and running, but the documentation indicates that Version 8 supports z9 machines and newer. Version 7 of IBM's SDK

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-09 Thread Linda
Hi Connor, Seriously awesome! I want one too! You might try checking public surplus sales/auctions. You can find the ones in your area by search for public surplus sale. Government shops are usually required to sell there surplus equipment through these sales. Large shops often have private s