It's basically "give people what they need, ahead of when they need it".
I'm glad Development take this approach; I'd like them to spend effort /
time / money where it's really needed. And doing it all in one go,
whatever "it all" might be, would've taken us longer to get what was
needed out th
W dniu 2017-03-27 o 17:21, esmie moo pisze:
Gentle Readers,
i have a question about TEMP-EXP which appears on a LISTCAT of the HSM BCDS. I did a REPRO to a
test BCDS however when I run the LISTCAT of the Prod version (so as to compare the TEST &
PROD. allocations) it shows TEMP-EXP in the ATT
Radoslaw,
Thanks for answering my question. I guess the TEMP-EXP must have been result
of an EXPORT command being run in the past.
Thanks to everyone who responded and helped out.
From: R.S.
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: LISTCAT QUES
I'm not really sure why IBM service would help someone debug an
application error, aside from on a for-fee basis, unless there is reason
to believe there could be a system problem.
23E reason 0: you have an error in the input to detach. The system
program-checked referencing the data that you
>>a) I see a couple of FREEMAIN (SSRV 78) trace entries pointing to a TCB in
>>read/write nucleus (TCB address is 00FDD4F8). Do these hold some useful
>>information for me?
>The only tcb I know of that actually, really is located in the R/W nucleus is
>the first tcb in the *master* address spac
>I'm not really sure why IBM service would help someone debug an
application error, aside from on a for-fee basis, unless there is reason
to believe there could be a system problem.
I agree. But when all else fails, we might even try going down that route.
>23E reason 0: you have an error in
All,
This a great discussion, what about a 64bit program doing dasd I/O for
example?
I saw a Share.org presentation by the father of HLASM and he had a
tri-modal program, it did I/O below the line and moved data to
Above the bar ...
Scott
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 5:34 AM Martin Packer
wrote:
>b) I know "SVC D" is also entered for normal task termination. In an ld
>MVS debugging manual I found that the first byte of R1 is x'08' this indicates
>RTM2 is called for task termination cleanup. The x'08 does no longer seem to
>hold true. How can I identify such an non-error an SVC D ent
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 7:06 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
>
>
> This is complex, multitasking code that has run for years without problem.
> The developer tried to change a tiny bit of code, and the errors startet do
> appear. The problem is that the code change has been backed out, but the
> pro
Tony Harminc wrote:
On 27 March 2017 at 20:15, Mike Schwab wrote:
...it's the ability to IPL and run in ESA/390 architecture that's going.
Exactly right.
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:10:35 -0400, Charles Mills wrote:
>The fact that the hardware guys and gals made the hardware capable of
>execution above the bar means IBM is giving this some thought. (The thought
>may be "Heck, no!" )
It would have been a bizarre decision to limit the hardware to only
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 08:43:18 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:10:35 -0400 Charles Mills wrote:
>
>:>The fact that the hardware guys and gals made the hardware capable of
>execution above the bar means IBM is giving this some thought. (The thought
>may be "Heck, no!" )
>
>Wel
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:44:28 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 08:43:18 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>
>>Well, they never supported code execution from a dataspace ..
>>
>Isn't that a hardware limitation. whereas execution above the bar is
>restricted by (some) software?
I c
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Tom Marchant <
000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:44:28 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 08:43:18 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
> >
> >>Well, they never supported code execution from a dataspace ...
On 3/28/2017 8:23 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:
I could be wrong, but I don't think that the hardware cares about
data spaces. A data space is an address space that contains no
operating system information, including Nucleus, LPA, CSA, and SQA.
The hardware does not perform ALET-qualified instructio
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 08:32:49 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote:
>On 3/28/2017 8:23 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:
>>
>> I could be wrong, but I don't think that the hardware cares about
>> data spaces. A data space is an address space that contains no
>> operating system information, including Nucleus, LPA, CSA, and
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 08:32:49 -0700 Ed Jaffe
wrote:
:>On 3/28/2017 8:23 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:
:>> I could be wrong, but I don't think that the hardware cares about
:>> data spaces. A data space is an address space that contains no
:>> operating system information, including Nucleus, LPA, CSA, a
My understanding is that a "data space" is a z/OS construction, the
hardware has no such concept. There's no reason a "dataspace" couldn't
execute instructions as far as the hardware is concerned. Just connect the
DAT tables as the primary and fire away. Of course, you'd be programming
on the ba
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 13:04:10 -0400, Steve Smith wrote:
>
>I presume IBM would like to deprecate and retire dataspaces completely,
>although the eternal backward-compatibility may prevent that for 100 years
>or more.
>
(Wow! We're halfway there!)
My impression, also. Is there anytning possible w
Just in...
http://www.computerworld.com/article/3185530/government-it/trump-s-son-in-law-jared-kushner-prepares-for-cobol-cloud-mainframes.html
"Common sense is not so common."
* Voltaire, Dictionnaire Philosophique (1764)
On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 7:14 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
wrote:
There is no restriction on AR mode with AMODE 64. See DAT Address Translation
in Chapter 3 of the POPS manual, specifically the right side of page 3-36
As determined by its address-space-control element,
a virtual address space may be a 2G-byte space
consisting of one region, or it may be up to
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-
requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 13:04:10 -0400, Steve Smith wrote:
> >
> >I presume IBM would like to deprecate and retire dataspaces completely,
> >although the eternal backward-compatibility may preve
>To help search engines: ABO = Automatic Binary Optimizer
>>We haven't set off down the yellow-brick ABO road, so it's hard to gauge h=
>>ow much angst we'll actually have to overcome. I'm pretty sure it won't be =
>>trivial.
>I haven't seen ABO in action yet. Is there a listing that relates the
Dan Kalmar wrote:
This may be a dumb question so forgive me in advance.
I'm reading the User's Guide section on adding a new FUNCTION SYSMOD:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.gim3000/fsmod.htm
So the MCS statements are listed, but why on earth there i
>There is a new listing when a program is processed by ABO, and this listing
is used by IBM Fault Analyzer, but it is not used by LE. For CEEDUMP, you
would manually map the offset to the line number.
So what you're saying is that an optional chargeable product knows how to
handle problems w
Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 27, 2017, at 12:00 AM, IBM-MAIN automatic digest system
> wrote:
>
> There are 16 messages totaling 872 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
> 1. GREAT presentation on the history of the mainframe
> 2. Migrating Cobol (7)
> 3. ComputerWorld Says: Cobol p
> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:36 PM, John Crossno wrote:
>
> Just in...
> http://www.computerworld.com/article/3185530/government-it/trump-s-son-in-law-jared-kushner-prepares-for-cobol-cloud-mainframes.html
>
>
>
>
> "Common sense is not so common."
> * Voltaire, Dictionnaire Philosophique
Was there an actual reply in there anywhere? I didn't see any.
Please trim digest replies to just the message you are replying to.
Peter
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Of Ron Hagler
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> Wow! It's rare, to say the least, for someone who doesn't already know how to
> run SMP/E in batch to package a product with it.
That was I also!
With all respect, John, I think IBM's logic there is a little circular. Perhaps
one reason people don't tackle SMP/E package development is because
On Mar 28, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Edward Gould wrote:
>
> I thought politics were a NONO on the list?
The article wasn’t particularly political, mostly just “a new administration
wants to upgrade Federal IT, just like all the ones before it said they would
do.”
This part was interesting:
Trump h
Without any TEST option on the compile, LE gives you nothing but the offset of
the failing instruction, then you find it in the compile listing. ABO gets you
a new listing of the new code, a new place to consult for the offset.
If you compile with TEST options, the code generated for those optio
I'm trying to download some software using HTTPS.
//SERVINFO DD *
And I get -
GIM45500S ** VERIFICATION OF HASH VALUE OF
FILE
/mnt/mainline/IBM/OS221677.content/GIMPAF.XML FAILED. SMP/E
WILL
NOT RETRY FILE
RETRIEVAL.
Oops - I forgot to change the HASH
//SER
j...@crossno.us (John Crossno) writes:
> Just in...
> http://www.computerworld.com/article/3185530/government-it/trump-s-son-in-law-jared-kushner-prepares-for-cobol-cloud-mainframes.html
O'Malley showed Chaffetz the developers at work. "They see a working
environment that looks exactly like Amazon
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 17:00:43 -0400, Mark Pace wrote:
>I'm trying to download some software using HTTPS.
> hash="03638FB010AAEA65109594DF96C0D458102E0BFE"
>
>And I get -
>GIM45500S ** VERIFICATION OF HASH VALUE OF
>
>Oops - I forgot to change the HASH
>
> hash="9e560ba1f93f773ad260d1073
> On Mar 28, 2017, at 3:47 PM, Bill Woodger wrote:
>
> Without any TEST option on the compile, LE gives you nothing but the offset
> of the failing instruction, then you find it in the compile listing. ABO gets
> you a new listing of the new code, a new place to consult for the offset.
>
> If
> On Mar 28, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Edward Gould wrote:
>
>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 12:36 PM, John Crossno wrote:
>>
>> Just in...
>> http://www.computerworld.com/article/3185530/government-it/trump-s-son-in-law-jared-kushner-prepares-for-cobol-cloud-mainframes.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Common sense is
I saw it as an update on the article that started the existing thread. New
article,, same author, similar subject (COBOL/mainframe), more positive. I
didn't see it as political, so apologies if anyone sees it that way.
"Common sense is not so common."
* Voltaire, Dictionnaire Philosophiq
I use an ISPF application to generate a receive package job. The dialog has the
user copy/paste the *entire* contents of SERVINFO directly from the Shopz order
into the job stream, meaning that the correct format of the data should be
available in the completed order. All such data is determined
On 3/27/2017 3:59 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
It has been discussed here for a while. You could disable interrupts, branch to
code above the bar, and branch back later. (I suppose the Old PSW was
unconditionally scrunched.) More recently, interrupts above the bar are
tolerated, but no system ser
Doesn't the 64-bit Java Runtime Environment on z/OS already support code
execution above the bar? That's my understanding. Also, I've stumbled into
at least one non-IBM product that is already executing code above the bar.
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> >a) I see a couple of FREEMAIN (SSRV 78) trace entries pointing to a
> TCB in read/write nucleus (TCB address is 00FDD4F8). Do these hold
> some useful information for me?
> The only tcb I know of that actually, really is located in the R/W
> nucleus is the first tcb in the *master* address spa
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