Re: Old hardware

We have a customer in my general part of the world that is, as I write this, moving from an IBM mainframe they installed in early 1999 (with ~1998 software releases) to a shiny new IBM z System machine. They have "only" about 19 years (and counting) of new features and capabilities they'll be able

Re: RACF TEMPDSN improvement with the zOS 1.13

Rogério Camargo wrote: >Hello! >I've heard about improvements with the zOS 1.13 (some year ago) related to the >RACF TEMPDSN, however it is being just impossible to me to find that >information in any 1.13 manual/migration guide... I've just read and searched >several of these manual, but I

Re: Old hardware

John McKown wrote: >​z9BC here. A two CP machine. Two LPARs running z/OS 1.12, but one is just >my "sandbox"​. FYI, since the announcement of IBM Multi-Version Measurement (MVM): https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/897/ENUS217-093/ENUS217-093.PDF you are permitted to run newer IBM products

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

>>//NONSMS DD DISP=(OLD,DELETE),DSN=SFG.REX.NONSMS << wrote: > [Default] On 18 Apr 2017 14:32:25 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main > rpomm...@sfgmembers.com (Pommier, Rex) wrote: > >>Mike, >> >>Are you sure? Running 2.2 right now, but I'm pretty sure my 1.13 system >>functioned the same:

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

[Default] On 18 Apr 2017 14:32:25 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main rpomm...@sfgmembers.com (Pommier, Rex) wrote: >Mike, > >Are you sure? Running 2.2 right now, but I'm pretty sure my 1.13 system >functioned the same: > >//RRPDELTE JOB CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=X, >//

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

Might have been a decade ago. But putting in the VOLSER stops the update to the catalog. On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote: > Mike, > > Are you sure? Running 2.2 right now, but I'm pretty sure my 1.13 system > functioned the same: > > //RRPDELTE JOB

Oracle on z/OS (was Re: COBOL integrated pre-processor, API in general)

Sidetracking a bit... Oh if Oracle would only support clients after v10.2... We are a (distributed) Oracle only shop, and our mainframe accesses those databases via DB2 z/OS DDF and DB2 Federation Server. If only we could get there using a supported (and recent Oracle client)! Anyway, that

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

Mike, Are you sure? Running 2.2 right now, but I'm pretty sure my 1.13 system functioned the same: //RRPDELTE JOB CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=X, // MSGLEVEL=(1,1),NOTIFY= IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL -

Re: COBOL integrated pre-processor, API in general

What I have done in that situation is written to the author looking for specific permission for the very specific way in which I wished to use the code, and assuming permission were granted, embedding the question, the response, and a reference to the e-mail thread in comments in the included

Re: How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

> Does DFSORT in some cases compile its key definitions into executable code? Sorts have "compiled" their key compares into executable code for as long as I can recall. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul

Re: Where has the JES2-L list gone to?

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 13:45:14 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: >If I remember correctly, IBM-MAIN and the IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES >require separate registrations. Yes, they are two different lists. The IBM-MAIN archives are accessible with the IBM-MAIN login, going back to January, 2005. IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

Asking if to update the catalog was added about 4 years ago or so. Still does not apply to JCL. //deluncat EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //ddname1 DD DSN=data.set.name,VOL=SER=nonsms,DISP=(OLD,UNCATLG) //ddname2 DD DSN=data.set.name,VOL=SER=nonsms,DISP=(OLD,DELETE) Both DDs are required for non-sms. Leave the

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 11:18:48 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > It's interesting that I can't seem to arrive at a _definitive_ "This is >the proper > way to rename a non-VSAM file" statement. I can't find anything in the >doc, etc... > and while an act-of-discovery will probably get me

Re: Old hardware

Two machines with Pentium CPUs here, running OS/2 V3.0 and Linux. One from 1997, the other from 1999. Both in perfect state, no problems. IBM SCSI devices, which had 5 years warranty originally, which could make a difference. The machines were sort of expensive at their time (7000 Deutsche Mark

RACF TEMPDSN improvement with the zOS 1.13

Hello! I've heard about improvements with the zOS 1.13 (some year ago) related to the RACF TEMPDSN, however it is being just impossible to me to find that information in any 1.13 manual/migration guide... I've just read and searched several of these manual, but I simply could not find it.

Re: Old hardware

W dniu 2017-04-18 o 21:47, William Donzelli pisze: Just on Saturday, the 1401 at Binghamton's Center for Technology and Innovation was powered up for the first time in about 25 years. The fun lasted about 20 minutes before one of the power supplies shut the machine down, but not before we

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

Yes, ALLOCxx is what I could not find. Just wondering if that setting could account for different behavior at various shops. And yes, ISPF 3.4 from a volume list does make additional checks for catalog consistency. In our case, the user attempted to use the delete *command* (rather than 'd')

Re: Old hardware

On 18 April 2017 at 14:07, Ronald Kristel wrote: > I occasionally wonder around the internet looking for something similar, but > always end up with some z9's for sale on ebay for > around $200K (!). There's been one on eBay for US $3,497 for some time. Item number

Re: Old hardware

On 4/18/2017 11:52 AM, Phil Smith wrote: Besides Connor, what's the oldest box anyone here has running z/OS? Any z9s still out there? z990s? Just curious... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

On 18 April 2017 at 14:40, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > What a terrific idea - I was able to find the old PLM from 1971 for > the RENAME command. Problem is that that PLM and the code it describes long predate SMS (for that matter they predate MVS!). There are several APARs

Re: Old hardware

Just on Saturday, the 1401 at Binghamton's Center for Technology and Innovation was powered up for the first time in about 25 years. The fun lasted about 20 minutes before one of the power supplies shut the machine down, but not before we verified successful reads and writes to the core. We did

Re: COBOL integrated pre-processor, API in general

>I wouldn't necessarily assume that there is a fixed API for EXEC CICS, EXEC= > SQL, EXEC SQLIMS. It's always possible that each one of these gets some s= >ort of custom treatment from the compiler. Bingo! There is an interface between COBOL and DB2 precompiler services, another between COBOL

Re: Error message lookup help

Nathan Astle wrote: >Cross posted Where else did you cross-posted? >For some reason the IBM sites are not opening Why? Please specify reason or post any message(s) why you don't see 'IBM sites'? >Can someone please help me out with the below error explanation >EZZ6011I TELNET1 BPX1SOC

Re: Where has the JES2-L list gone to?

Walt Farrell wrote: >If I remember correctly, IBM-MAIN and the IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES require separate >registrations. Yes, it is very true. If I can't find something in IBM-MAIN, I do use the IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES using another registration, but with the same e-mail address for the registration

Re: Where has the JES2-L list gone to?

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:19:05 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >Steve Horein wrote: > >>I find the following at: http://listserv.vt.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=JES2-L > >Close, but no cigar for me... oh well. But thanks for telling us. > >After going all the trouble to

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

I should add that I found this from the bitsavers archive: http://www.textfiles.com/bitsavers/pdf/ibm/360/os/tso/GY28-6776-0_TSO_Command_Processor_PLM_Vol_6_Mar71.pdf - Dave R. - -- riv...@dignus.comWork: (919) 676-0847 Get your mainframe programming tools at

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

Tony Harminc wrote: On 18 April 2017 at 11:18, Thomas David Rivers wrote: Unless, another pair of eyes has seen some kind of documentation or example of "this is the proper way to rename a non-VSAM file." The TSO RENAME command in theory takes care of all this, at

Re: Old hardware

I am wondering now. The people that mentioned they have a z9/z10.. Do you privately own this one? (and keeping this in a home enviroment?) I occasionally wonder around the internet looking for something similar, but always end up with some z9's for sale on ebay for around $200K (!). - Ronald

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

Skip, Also you might want to check some of your ISPF settings. I just ran a bit of a test. Built a dataset on a non-SMS volume, then used ISPF 3.4 to display the volume and then tried to delete the dataset. I got a pop-up asking me to confirm the delete, as well as asking me if I wanted to

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

Skip, In regards to the "failure to catalog" question, check the ALLOCxx member in PARMLIB. Ours is set to this: CATLG_ERR FAILJOB(YES) ERRORMSG(YES) Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent:

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

On 18 April 2017 at 11:18, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > Unless, another pair of eyes has seen some kind of documentation or example > of "this is the proper way to rename a non-VSAM file." The TSO RENAME command in theory takes care of all this, at least for cataloged

Re: Error message lookup help

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Nathan Astle wrote: > Hi > > Cross posted > > For some reason the IBM sites are not opening > > Can someone please help me out with the below error explanation > > EZZ6011I TELNET1 BPX1SOC FAILED, RC = 0070 RSN = 12CA00B6 > > > Nathan >

Re: Error message lookup help

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 22:42:23 +0530, Nathan Astle wrote: > >For some reason the IBM sites are not opening > >Can someone please help me out with the below error explanation > >EZZ6011I TELNET1 BPX1SOC FAILED, RC = 0070 RSN = 12CA00B6 > Found easily with Adobe Reader and the

Re: Error message lookup help

Not sure, just love convoluted "Reason Codes," but is there an outstanding "Write to Operator" awaiting a reply? The "00B6" in RSN implies this, but I am not sure that is the real problem. Won't hurt to check, now will it? Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 UFIT University of Florida (352)

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

z/OS MVS Initialization and Tuning Guide: Because SCM does not support persistence of data across IPLs, VIO data can only be paged out to DASD. Therefore, even when SCM is installed you must still maintain a minimum amount of storage that supports paging for all of your VIO data, and a minimum

Re: Error message lookup help

First, is the port that your TELNET1 service is trying to use reserved for it? Maybe something else has the port it is attempting to use. Found in "z/OS Communications Server: IP Messages Volume 4 (EZZ, SNM)" EZZ6011I jobname requested_service FAILED, RC = rc RSN = rsn Explanation z/OS®

Re: Error message lookup help

z/OS® UNIX System Services callable service was unable to complete successfully. jobname is the name of the procedure that is used to start the TN3270 server or the job name identifier of the procedure that is used to start the TN3270 server. If you start the TN3270.TNSRV1 server, the jobname

Error message lookup help

Hi Cross posted For some reason the IBM sites are not opening Can someone please help me out with the below error explanation EZZ6011I TELNET1 BPX1SOC FAILED, RC = 0070 RSN = 12CA00B6 Nathan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

A subtle gotcha emerged here recently. If you build a dataset list in ISPF 3.4 by DSN, actions on datasets in the list will invoke IDCAMS-like actions. Example, 'D' will attempt to delete both catalog and VTOC entries. 'R' will also attempt both. If you build a list by VOLSER, only

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

d10j...@us.ibm.com (Jim Mulder) writes: > it might be faster to read it from the DB2 data set, because DB2 > (via Media Manager) uses zHPF, but z/OS has not been enhanced to > use zHPF for page data sets. in 1980, I got con'ed into doing channel-extender for STL that was moving 300 people from

Re: V XCF,xxxx,OFFLINE,REIPL not working

If you are willing to zap your SYS1.NUCLEUS, this will implement the OA50533 change. For z/OS 2.1 with PTF UA72063 //STEP1 EXEC PGM=AMASPZAP,PARM='IGNIDRFULL' //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSLIB DD DSN=SYS1.NUCLEUS,DISP=SHR //SYSIN DD * NAME IEANUC01 BLWRSTOP VER 0FB4 0003 REP 0FB4

Re: Old hardware

As far as I remember he is not running a modern OS let alone z/OS unless his new employer has given him a free license. Assuming he can now afford to have the 890 running. Did look at getting one myself but cannot afford the power running costs - well not at 0.11p per Kw. Vince On

Re: Old hardware

Z890 here with 2 cps. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 11:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Old hardware Besides Connor, what's the oldest box anyone here has

Re: Old hardware

W dniu 2017-04-18 o 17:49, Phil Smith pisze: Besides Connor, what's the oldest box anyone here has running z/OS? Any z9s still out there? z990s? Just curious... z9, z990 and z900 on the board. However none f them is in use. z900 is just empty cabinet (planned for decoration of our new

Re: Old hardware

Hi Phil, z9 (and z10) here. BobL -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 9:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Old hardware [ EXTERNAL ] Besides Connor, what's the oldest

Re: Old hardware

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Phil Smith wrote: > Besides Connor, what's the oldest box anyone here has running z/OS? Any > z9s still out there? z990s? > ​z9BC here. A two CP machine. Two LPARs running z/OS 1.12, but one is just my "sandbox"​. > > Just curious... > --

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

If you specify the volser for a non-sms dataset, the catalog is not accessed, and the rename does not update the catalog, and you need to manually update the catalog. On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > retired mainframer wrote: > >> Run some test

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

And if the buffer page is paged out to SCM, it should be faster to read it from SCM than from the DB2 data set. But if it is paged out to a page data set, it might be faster to read it from the DB2 data set, because DB2 (via Media Manager) uses zHPF, but z/OS has not been enhanced to use

Old hardware

Besides Connor, what's the oldest box anyone here has running z/OS? Any z9s still out there? z990s? Just curious... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of big&^% memory

For every byte of real memory, you need 1 byte of paging disk to back it up. For a system dump, you need to copy the real memory and the paging disk backup, so 3X real memory. On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: > I wonder what the magic

Re: unCATALOG after a RENAME (rename a non-VSAM file.)

retired mainframer wrote: Run some test cases, at least one for an SMS volume, at least one for a non-SMS volume: List the catalog entry for the old DSN List the catalog entry for the new DSN (expect failure) List the VTOC for the old DSN List the VTOC for the new DSN (expect

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 00:47:55 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote: >>I don't want to turn this into a debugging session, but this is what I see in >>RMF3 on the non-DB2 utility system. >>All of the TPX 'regions' are below this list sorted by Aux Slots. No task >>shows any page-ins. >

Re: OAM message CBR3006I with an MTL - Solved

Excellent, thanks for the update Ruth, I for one made a bad assumption you, like us, were migrating from a Physical ATL to a Virtual library Carmen - Original Message - From: "Ruth O'Connor" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 9:51:33 AM

Re: OAM message CBR3006I with an MTL - Solved

Well, we finally asked IBM for help with our OAM/MTL problem and learned that it's not possible to use an MTL while simultaneously using BTLS (basic tape library support) to manage our old physical tape library. The ptf that we've been excluding from all recent z/OS upgrades would have been a

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Greg Dyck > Sent: 18 April, 2017 15:58 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory > > On 4/18/2017 2:25 AM, Vernooij, Kees - KLM ,

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

On 4/18/2017 2:25 AM, Vernooij, Kees - KLM , ITOPT1 wrote: As I said, I remember reading this a long time ago, I don't know the details anymore, whether the source was reliable and whether it is still working this way. Only a DB2 internal expert should be able to tell. ... On 12 April 2017

Re: Where has the JES2-L list gone to?

Steve Horein wrote: >I find the following at: http://listserv.vt.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=JES2-L Close, but no cigar for me... oh well. But thanks for telling us. After going all the trouble to logon, enter psw, receiving a confirmation mail, etc., I got this nice message: "Archived messages are

Re: Where has the JES2-L list gone to?

Yes, I got that too. But then it says the archives are currently unabailable...either they do not exist, or I'm not allowed access with my mail address. Next, I clicked on "subscribe" and got back "there is no JES2-L list on this server". -- Peter Hunkeler Von: Steve Horein

Re: V XCF,xxxx,OFFLINE,REIPL not working

This APAR has been open for more than a year. Does anyone have any information about when a fix will be issued. Gadi From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jatinderpal S Virdi Sent: Sunday, April 9,

Re: Where has the JES2-L list gone to?

I find the following at: http://listserv.vt.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=JES2-L JES2-L Home Page jes...@listserv.vt.edu [image: LISTSERV Archives] LISTSERV Archives JES2-L *JES2 discussion group* *A system programmer types

Re: Where has the JES2-L list gone to?

Gone, gonewonder if they kept the archives? Only thing semi active is in bit.listserv.jes2-l on google groups. Last post was 12 July. In a message dated 4/18/2017 1:59:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, p...@gmx.ch writes: there is no JES2-L here

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory

As I said, I remember reading this a long time ago, I don't know the details anymore, whether the source was reliable and whether it is still working this way. Only a DB2 internal expert should be able to tell. Greg, could you shed a light on this? Kees. > -Original Message- > From:

Re: Paging subsystems in the era of big&^% memory

I wonder what the magic 1:1, or in fact any hard relation with real memory is. Basically, in virtual memory systems, what does not fit in real must be paged out. So in principle you need the potential total virtual memory minus the real memory as aux storage. There are a number of ROTs to

Where has the JES2-L list gone to?

Does anyone happen to know? Listserv catalog and Google still point to "listserv.vt.edu", but the server say there is no JES2-L here. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send