Re: Tapeless delivery

2018-04-26 Thread Edward Gould
> On Apr 26, 2018, at 6:08 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote: > > I'm utterly mystified. Yes, OK, you have to use a DVD reader instead of > a tape drive. There's a media change and a drive change...and so what? > Media and drive changes are also nothing new since there have been multiple > tape cartr

Re: Tapeless delivery

2018-04-26 Thread Edward Gould
> On Apr 26, 2018, at 6:08 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote: > > [I don't know who wrote this] wrote: >> DVD’s/CDROMS have an affinity to getting lost and you >> cannot put a sticker on it (on the sleeve yes) but >> not on the physical device. I did and I stand by it. I have gummed up many cdroms and h

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-04-26 Thread David Crayford
On 27/04/2018 1:38 AM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 16:14:49 +0100, Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) wrote: Can't shutdown and IPL in 315 seconds.. (well, we can't). No, but you can move the work to another LPAR in the Sysplex before the IPL, minimizing the application down tim

Announcing PCRE2 10.31 for z/OS

2018-04-26 Thread Ze'ev Atlas
I have just released PCRE2 10.31 for z/OS.  It is in the usual place - file939 in CBTTAPE.ORG.  Currently it is in the updates page. Ze'ev Atlas -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to li

Re: Signing Off

2018-04-26 Thread Grinsell, Don
Retirement planning must be obfuscating my proof reading. My bosses actual email address is randyhae...@mt.gov. Kindest regards once again. -- Donald Grinsell, Systems Programmer Enterprise Technology Services Bureau SITSD/Montana Department of Administration 406.444.2983 (D) "If not us,

Re: OA53355 - USERKEY COMMON MIGRATION SUPPORT

2018-04-26 Thread Tom Russell
> So, has anyone written a SAS/MXG program to read through these SMF30 records yet, that they would care to share? I have written a Rexx program that I use to extract data from SMF30s. After running a test job stream, I use it to extract some data into a CSV file for Excel, but I "say" sever

Re: Where do I find a list of world timezones in z/OS USS notation?

2018-04-26 Thread Juan Escamilla
I had to change the Unix time zone values for several LPARS that run on different timezones around the world. I used the values from website https://www.di-mgt.com.au/src/wclocktz.ini We used the following: US systems: TZ=EST5EDT,M3.2.0/2:00,M11.1.0/2:00 Brazil time: TZ=BRT3BRST,M10.3.0/0:

Re: Tapeless delivery

2018-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 19:08:16 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote: >May I ask a couple "naive" and slightly impolite questions here? >... >Have you looked into what youc colleagues have been doing for the past 20+ >years? How are the other parts of your organization coping? They are, >somehow, and the

Re: Signing Off

2018-04-26 Thread Jill Grine
Hello Don, Grats on retirement!  Hardly seems like you are old enough, but then doesn't seem I am old enough to have retired two  years ago.  Anyway, I just wanted to say have a great life away from IT.  Wish you and your family all the best. From: "Grinsell, Don" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.U

Re: RECFM (was: IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed ... )

2018-04-26 Thread Jackson, Rob
When I was in JHS we learned BASIC (and Pascal) with IBM BASICA on PS/2s (80286s with 20 MB HDDs). The assignments required LET. First Tennessee Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, April 2

New Z GUI Workload reporting tool

2018-04-26 Thread Carmen Vitullo
X-posted to MXG list: I've been asked to look at a new GUI tool from RDS called Z/trim to enhance our reporting capabilities for the NOC and the Performance group and I'm wondering if anyone is using, has used or POC'd the product and if so , what's the general opinion of the tool? any insight

Re: AW: Re: DFSMSdss dump fix after binary transfer

2018-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:51:40 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >So, in any mixed platform environment, the beginners are at a disadvantage. >That is one reason given for the "Windows only" mantra chanted here. There >is no need for people to be as intelligent or knowledgeable. > Ah! A principle of unif

Re: AW: Re: DFSMSdss dump fix after binary transfer

2018-04-26 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 07:33:39 +0200, Peter Hunkeler wrote: > > > >>IMHO it is problem with IBM. Are you deaf? > >Sometimes it is; sometimes they are. However, not this time. > > > >>People r

Re: AW: Re: DFSMSdss dump fix after binary transfer

2018-04-26 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:45 AM, R.S. wrote: > "know your job" should not be an excuse for inconvenience. > Why realtively simple and frequently performed activities do require > sophisticated knowledge? > Why new user generations still have to thoroughly study ftp advanced > parameters to final

FORTRAN (was: RECFM ... )

2018-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Ah, the bad old days. And here I am in a nostalgia thread. On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:24:38 +, Chris Hoelscher wrote: >Of even older fortran >If x (100,200,300) > That's a bug. What did it mean? But this is valid: IF(X)100,200,300 Didn't the expression need to be enclosed in parenthese

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-04-26 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 16:14:49 +0100, Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) wrote: >Can't shutdown and IPL in 315 seconds.. (well, we can't). No, but you can move the work to another LPAR in the Sysplex before the IPL, minimizing the application down time. -- Tom Marchant -

Re: RECFM (was: IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed ... )

2018-04-26 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Of even older fortran If x (100,200,300) Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services Humana Inc. 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 Humana.com (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: RECFM (was: IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed ... )

2018-04-26 Thread zMan
And don't forget the (early): 5 = 3 which, in at least some compilers, would indeed make subsequent references to "5" use "3". I think that was considered a bug. On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Binyamin Dissen < bdis...@dissensoftware.com> wrote: > On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 07:34:36 -0700 Phil Smit

Re: RECFM (was: IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed ... )

2018-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 07:34:36 -0700, Phil Smith wrote: > >When you realized that > DO25I=1,10 >defines the start of a loop, but > DO25I=1.10 >is an assignment statement, you really wonder what about the FORTRAN compiler >parser! I'm sure it made sense at the time, and can see how it

Re: AW: Re: DFSMSdss dump fix after binary transfer

2018-04-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 07:33:39 +0200, Peter Hunkeler wrote: > >>IMHO it is problem with IBM. Are you deaf? >Sometimes it is; sometimes they are. However, not this time. > >>People really NEED the functionality to simply make single dataset archive, >>transmit it to PC *with no tricks and black magi

Re: AW: Re: DFSMSdss dump fix after binary transfer

2018-04-26 Thread R.S.
"know your job" should not be an excuse for inconvenience. Why realtively simple and frequently performed activities do require sophisticated knowledge? Why new user generations still have to thoroughly study ftp advanced parameters to finally find out there is no solution for downloading/uploa

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-04-26 Thread Allan Staller
Please forgive my sloppy usage of the term "down time". I should have used outage. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.

Signing Off

2018-04-26 Thread Grinsell, Don
I am retiring from the State of Montana on May 11th. This opens a CICS Systems Programmer role here. If anybody would be interested in relocating to Helena, Montana, please contact my boss, Randy Haefka for details. -- Donald Grinsell, Systems Programmer Enterprise Technology Services Burea

Re: TSO fullscreen logon

2018-04-26 Thread Lou Losee
Thanks for the information Tony and Elardus Lou -- Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity - Unknown On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 1:07 PM, Cieri, Anthony wrote: > > Hi Lou, > > I am assuming that you mean the full screen TSO panel that prompts > you for your cred

Re: RECFM (was: IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed ... )

2018-04-26 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 07:34:36 -0700 Phil Smith wrote: :>Binyamin Dissen wrote, in part: :>>And for the non-Fortran programmer :>> DO 25 I = 1,10 :>>is identical to :>> DO25I=1,10 :>>but different than :>> DO25I=1.10 :>For the non-FORTRAN geeks who are wondering why an

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-04-26 Thread Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)
Classification: Public Is it outage, rather than downtime? (ie, unexpected) Can't shutdown and IPL in 315 seconds.. (well, we can't).   Andy Styles z/Series System Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marcha

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-04-26 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 14:00:37 +, Allan Staller wrote: >(z/OS) claims "six nines" of availability (99.99%; That would be eight nines. Do they talk about six nines now? I remember 5 nines, or available 99.999% of the time. That corresponds to about 315 seconds of down time per year, by my

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-04-26 Thread Allan Staller
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ronald Kristel Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills Don't forget the "IBM Suppor

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-04-26 Thread Ronald Kristel
Don't forget the "IBM Support" android mobile app that has about the opposite of 99,99...% uptime. Ronald Kristel From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 16:22 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subje

Re: RECFM (was: IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed ... )

2018-04-26 Thread Phil Smith
Binyamin Dissen wrote, in part: >And for the non-Fortran programmer > DO 25 I = 1,10 >is identical to > DO25I=1,10 >but different than > DO25I=1.10 For the non-FORTRAN geeks who are wondering why anyone would ever think the last is the same: NASA had a bug due to this

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-04-26 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Amen. – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: 26 April 2018 15:01 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills A

Re: Tapeless delivery

2018-04-26 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I've worked on 'THOSE' controler and used those large floppies, we had a 'test' controller I guess you could say to configure other controller throughout the company, yeah what a blast :( Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Elardus Engelbrecht" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-04-26 Thread Allan Staller
Also, z/OSMF runs on z/OS.. do the others? I do not currently have enough hands on experience w/ z/OSMF to vote yay or nay on z/OSMF. The tools I am referring to do not. Who knows what h/w and OS KC, RL, etc. run on. *NIX hardware is in a class w/z hardware. They do not have the dy

Re: Tapeless delivery

2018-04-26 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 7:07 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht < elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote: > Timothy Sipples wrote: > > >Do ... ... ship you their software products and updates on tape > cartridges? > > Not now these days. Last one I received was just before 2013 when we still > have a tape r

Re: OAM and Object Tape Support with an MTL

2018-04-26 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 8:10 AM, Mohammad Khan wrote: > I use XODO app on my Android tablet which allows annotating pdfs, price is > $0. > Mohammad > ​Thanks! I'll look at that after work.​ > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:25:52 -0500, John McKown < > john.archie.mck...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >​

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-04-26 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Also, z/OSMF runs on z/OS.. do the others? Who knows what h/w and OS KC, RL, etc. run on. Do their RAS ever match the z's? – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh

Re: OAM and Object Tape Support with an MTL

2018-04-26 Thread Mohammad Khan
I use XODO app on my Android tablet which allows annotating pdfs, price is $0. Mohammad On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:25:52 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >​Thanks, I'll look at that. > >Not bad. It costs some money, but I don't know if I'm willing to pay >$15/month for it. Also, unfortunately, it is Wi

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-04-26 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Hey Allan, I'm only talking about the UX. Don't know about the full history of each to make statements about their functionality. After all, z/OSMF is supposed to be the solution that makes mainframes attractive & accessible, isn't it. – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message-

Re: RECFM (was: IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed ... )

2018-04-26 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 13:00:35 -0500 Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: :>This flaw is also present in the pervasive RECFM=FB,LRECL=80. Consider :>the FORTRAN statement: :> PI = 3.14 265 And for the non-Fortran programmer DO 25 I = 1

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-04-26 Thread Allan Staller
Now if only (Knowledge Centre, ResourceLink, and many other corners of the IBM site) were as available, serviceable and functional as what they are replacing, I would be very happy. Alas, I am not very happy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSER

Re: Tapeless delivery

2018-04-26 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Timothy Sipples wrote: >Do ... ... ship you their software products and updates on tape >cartridges? Not now these days. Last one I received was just before 2013 when we still have a tape robot. Just a little double check of that write-only tab and a fast iebcopy job and you're in. >You *c

Re: Tapeless delivery

2018-04-26 Thread Timothy Sipples
May I ask a couple "naive" and slightly impolite questions here? Do Microsoft, Oracle, SAP, Adobe, Symantec, VMware, SAS, or Red Hat (as examples) ship you their software products and updates on tape cartridges? I presume your organization is using at least one software product from at least one o

Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-04-26 Thread Richards, Robert B.
John, Thanks for the write-up and the lead time heads-up for z/OS "next". ServerPac was due for a makeover anyway, right? Wasn't your evil twin responsible for most of the ServerPac capabilities? And if YOU think it prudent, the rest of us should take heed! :-) Bob -Original Message-

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-04-26 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Hi John, If I may share some feedback on z/OSMF... Kind of pains to see this UI. Knowledge Centre, ResourceLink, and many other corners of the IBM site these days are very clean and new-age-looking. Even the new IBM Plex font is dope! If z/OSMF is wants to be a millennial magnet, then it needs th

Re: OAM and Object Tape Support with an MTL

2018-04-26 Thread Brian Westerman
It's not that the CBROAM member is useless, but most of the reason to use it goes away because the values forced by either the hardware (virtual tape system) or the tape management system (CA-1 or RMM) would render them unnecessary. I don't see anywhere that it could increase performance (unles